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Paula Deen Fired[W:223]

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I just came into this conversation ... Did someone say that had she referred to whites as honkies she would not have been fired? BTW, how long ago did she use the "N" word and in what circumstances?
Dont matter how long ago. In the United States of the Offended, you are guilty and need to be punished for life for saying anything that a african american dont like.
Dont matter what they call each other everyday, in music, movies, stand up routines, sports. YOU cant do it.
Throw her on the same pile they started with Jimmy the Greek.
 
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Dont matter how long ago. In the United States of the Offended, you are guilty and need to be punished for life for saying anything that a african american dont like.
Dont matter what they call each other everyday, in music, movies, stand up routines, sports. YOU cant do it.
Throw her on the same pile they started with Jimmy the Greek.

Aww dont be mad just keep your racist slurs in your own home and you will be ok.
 
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You don't tolerate it from others? How you going to prevent it?
You seem to not have a good grasp of what "not tolerating" something means in interpersonal relations. Let me give you an example in case you ever decide that you want to not tolerate racism in your life.

Example One
John says, "Mexicans are disgusting." I say, "That's a gross statement. Please don't say that **** around me if you want to hang out."

Example Two
Shelly says, "I'm sick of all these Jews trying to take my money." Shelly looks at me expecting me to laugh with her. I don't laugh - Shelly understands I think she's a dumb ****.

Example Three
Jason, Josh and Jack are sitting around me at a party, making fun of "black culture" and black people in general. I don't hang out with them again.

*All variations of things that have happened to me in real life.

That's how a person doesn't tolerate racism and in none of those cases is anybody's rights violated as you seem to think is necessary. Do you get it yet?
 
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Well you can't blame them for wanting to maintain their public image.

And contrary to popular opinion, it's not a big conspiracy to get all conservatives. They are a private business, and they have the right to decide who they broadcast.


wtf are you even talking about?
 
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Aww dont be mad just keep your racist slurs in your own home and you will be ok.

Lessee, Iam from Washington DC, my fathers best friend was a black police officer he served on the force with, I worked 10 years in management at Waste Management (75% black work force), my niece is married to a black man, we babysit a baby born to a niece that died who had said baby with a black man.
Now, you want to talk about me being a racist?
 
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Aww dont be mad just keep your racist slurs in your own home and you will be ok.

well if all this outrage was over the fact she used a racial slur back in the 60's it would be pretty ****ing dumb.

But I obviously the situation seems like it may be more complex than that
 
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Nobody, except for you, is talking about rights. I'm talking about regular interactions between people.

You don't consider peoples rights when you interact with them? That explains a lot.

No, I'm a big advocate of the truth. You're not providing any though. What you said was a platitude. You said, "fighting intolerance with intolerance is hypocritical". Does this mean you admit that you tolerate racism?

You believe in being intolerant of somebody talking, truth. There's a big difference between somebody saying something stupid and doing something stupid, truth. I can forgive others for their ignorant expressions it's called tolerance and following the law, truth.

Please explain to me how not tolerating racism in my own life is the same thing as denying people their rights. I can't wait. LOL

How are you going to get rid of all racism in your life without being a tyrant? You're intolerant and condemning to any opinion that varies from your own. By continually over reacting to intolerance you become a victim to it.
 
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Lessee, Iam from Washington DC, my fathers best friend was a black police officer he served on the force with, I worked 10 years in management at Waste Management (75% black work force), my niece is married to a black man, we babysit a baby born to a niece that died who had said baby with a black man.
Now, you want to talk about me being a racist?

None of that means your not racist.

If you want to use racial slurs you can. If you dont want others to hear do it in your home.
 
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wtf are you even talking about?

As you said, FN is taking care of their public image. Which is completely understandable. To read some posts here, it's a big conspiracy against them.
 
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Eh, I don't know that never saying racial slurs outside of the context I gave you makes me "better" than anyone. I've certainly done my fair share of other "bad" things, but saying racial slurs is not one of them. I just stated a fact. Makes sense that you would try insult me for doing something good. Why do you think it's bad to have never said a racial slur outside the context I stated?

Oh and grip, remember what I said a while ago when you launched in a random personal attack against me in another thread? I said that you always breakdown when you enter discussions on things like race. You're proving my point. :lol:

If that's the unbridled truth then bully for you. Being flawed doesn't make you worth less just not admitting it does.

I launched a random personal attack against you? Oh when I said you were one of the smartest posters here? That's a terrible insult....lol
I'm sorry if you think I'm breaking down because honestly it seems more like to me you're getting a whooping.
 
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None of that means your not racist.

If you want to use racial slurs you can. If you dont want others to hear do it in your home.

You don't understand. The Liberal PC police are going to get him.
 
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None of that means your not racist.

If you want to use racial slurs you can. If you dont want others to hear do it in your home.
How racist could I be? I not only allow but invite blacks that I know to my home. I help take care of a half black child. I grew up in a city that is 80% black.
 
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Dont matter how long ago. In the United States of the Offended, you are guilty and need to be punished for life for saying anything that a african american dont like.
Dont matter what they call each other everyday, in music, movies, stand up routines, sports. YOU cant do it.
Throw her on the same pile they started with Jimmy the Greek.

yeah, African Americans have always had a lot of power in this country -- being black in this country has been an advantage beginning with slavery ...
 
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yeah, African Americans have always had a lot of power in this country -- being black in this country has been an advantage beginning with slavery ...

You do realize that the person that is suing her is white dont you?
And playing the slavery card is weak.
 
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You do realize that the person that is suing her is white dont you?
And playing the slavery card is weak.

you seem to have a knack for missing the point of posts, don't you? also, it'll help if you read not only responses to your posts, but yours as well ...
frankly, this story really shouldn't be getting this kind of attention ... I'll move on in fact ... take care ... enjoy your time with your black friends (I got some too just in case someone tries to call me a racist) ...
 
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I'm sorry if you think I'm breaking down because honestly it seems more like to me you're getting a whooping.
From who?
 
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You don't consider peoples rights when you interact with them? That explains a lot.
My argument isn't about rights. I never said "I don't consider people's rights." I'd rather talk about what I actually said. Why don't you want to do that?

You believe in being intolerant of somebody talking, truth. There's a big difference between somebody saying something stupid and doing something stupid, truth. I can forgive others for their ignorant expressions it's called tolerance and following the law, truth.
I never said anything about the law because it's irrelevant to my argument. I'd rather talk about what I actually said. Why don't you want to do that?

How are you going to get rid of all racism in your life without being a tyrant?
I never said anything about "trying to get rid of all the racism in my life"? I'd rather talk about what I actually said. Why don't you want to do that?

You're intolerant and condemning to any opinion that varies from your own.
Not true. I am intolerant of racism, as I said. Why would you distort my words like that?

By continually over reacting to intolerance you become a victim to it.
"Overreacting" is a subjective judgment. I react the way I believe is appropriate. Your opinion on whether it's too much is irrelevant to me.
 
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Also, you hedged on this question, so I'd like you answer it. If you accuse me of doing something, it's only fair that you show me how I did it.

Nobody said anything about people not having the right to express themselves.

Sure you did when you said you don't tolerate someone expressing their racist opinion.

Please explain to me how not tolerating racism in my own life is the same thing as denying people their rights.

Again, I'd like to know how not tolerating racism in my life denies people their rights.
 
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You don't consider peoples rights when you interact with them? That explains a lot.

You believe in being intolerant of somebody talking, truth. There's a big difference between somebody saying something stupid and doing something stupid, truth. I can forgive others for their ignorant expressions it's called tolerance and following the law, truth.

How are you going to get rid of all racism in your life without being a tyrant? You're intolerant and condemning to any opinion that varies from your own. By continually over reacting to intolerance you become a victim to it.
Not to overwhelm you even more, but I have another question. How are you defining intolerance? Does mere expression of displeasure and criticism count as intolerance?
 
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you seem to have a knack for missing the point of posts, don't you? also, it'll help if you read not only responses to your posts, but yours as well ...
frankly, this story really shouldn't be getting this kind of attention ... I'll move on in fact ... take care ... enjoy your time with your black friends (I got some too just in case someone tries to call me a racist) ...
So if I dont see the big deal with Paul Deen, I must be a racist.
I missed no point, the post that I responded to were fulling intent on calling me a racist. But since that is probably not allowed on the forum. They tip toed around it just enough.
The friends I have that are black are part of our family, not just friends. So keep trying your hardest to make a racist out of me.
 
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So if I dont see the big deal with Paul Deen, I must be a racist.
I missed no point, the post that I responded to were fulling intent on calling me a racist. But since that is probably not allowed on the forum. They tip toed around it just enough.
The friends I have that are black are part of our family, not just friends. So keep trying your hardest to make a racist out of me.

Crue, I have no interest in knowing whether you're a racist or not (although your comment on how African Americans have to approve raised a red flag for me), but a little advice - the "some of my best friends are black" response doesn't help make the point you're trying to make ... take care ...
 
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Crue, I have no interest in knowing whether you're a racist or not (although your comment on how African Americans have to approve raised a red flag for me), but a little advice - the "some of my best friends are black" response doesn't help make the point you're trying to make ... take care ...
Oh please, I didnt use the weak "some of my best friends are black" statement. Not only are they friends but they are family.
And also dont tell me that the Al Shaprtons and Jesse Jacksons of the world are not top flight race baiters who stir up the offended masses.
And plenty of blacks feel the same way.
 
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From who?

My argument isn't about rights. I never said "I don't consider people's rights." I'd rather talk about what I actually said. Why don't you want to do that?


I never said anything about the law because it's irrelevant to my argument. I'd rather talk about what I actually said. Why don't you want to do that?


I never said anything about "trying to get rid of all the racism in my life"? I'd rather talk about what I actually said. Why don't you want to do that?


Not true. I am intolerant of racism, as I said. Why would you distort my words like that?


"Overreacting" is a subjective judgment. I react the way I believe is appropriate. Your opinion on whether it's too much is irrelevant to me.

Also, you hedged on this question, so I'd like you answer it. If you accuse me of doing something, it's only fair that you show me how I did it.


Again, I'd like to know how not tolerating racism in my life denies people their rights.

Not to overwhelm you even more, but I have another question. How are you defining intolerance? Does mere expression of displeasure and criticism count as intolerance?

Let me first say, "ThePlayDrive doth protest too much, methinks."

I believe you are allowed to express your distaste for racism anyway you please within the bounds of the law. My problem is with how eager people are to cast the first stone at the slightest appearance of political incorrectness. The person in question did ask for forgiveness and though she should have repercussions I'm not quick to write people off who ask for lenience. If she did it again, then I'd be less likely to believe her but still I'm not a fan of unfair persecution.

I know as a public figure we're held to tighter scrutiny but at least let the punishment fit the crime. I don't give stupid talk any more power than it really deserves. When I degrade my relatives for racist talk by rolling my eyes, turning my head and dismissively flipping my hand it's far more effective at humbling them than a verbal attack giving them credence for self defense.

Do a stretch in prison and see how the yard is divided. Strictly by race, whether you like it or not and that's a reality. Preach intolerance in there and they'll teach you about conformity. And society is in danger of the opposite type of mob mentality when we overreact to others who don't conform.
 
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Can't she just parlay this into her own show on Sirius satellite?

Howard Stern says offensive crap and he's getting paaaaaaaaaaaaaid on satellite radio.

So she uses racial slurs. Big whoop. It has little to nothing to do with her craft, other than she cooks more like a southern black woman anyway. How she is not 400 pounds is beyond me.
 
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Not to overwhelm you even more, but I have another question. How are you defining intolerance? Does mere expression of displeasure and criticism count as intolerance?

What you really should be asking is why the people whining about having public shame over the consequences of using racially insulting words feel that everyone should be forced to like them despite making an effort to be a jerk. I can be a jerk, but if someone doesn't like me for it then I made the choice and they have the choice not to like me. I actually am probably well aware when i am offensive that person won't like me and probably want to offend them. You would have to be a grade A moron to use the N word as a white person and think nothing of it. Paula had to know she was being an offensive ass, and being a professional person she should have been well aware the word had no place in a professional working environment. If you are going to joke around with your bigot friends do it in private because in the workplace you are required to get along with people and do your job. It offends people, and you can bitch and moan about it, but that has no place in working. On top of that use of the word will lower others opinions of you. There is nothing illegal about a person not liking you for being a foul mouthed twat. Yet for some reason it seems some people around here want everyone to tolerate their dick behavior.

Some people around here need to realize you have to tolerate others for being of different race, and that is because it is not a choice or something you can change. Your willful behavior as a jerk is not something you are incapable of changing and therefor can most certainly be discriminated against, especially in a job where public opinion is directly related to your marketability. You know, like putting on a cooking show where you want people to watch and like you, even the black ones.
 
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