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Paula Deen Fired[W:223]

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I don't like to control people or tell them what to say but I guess you do.
There's a difference between "controlling people" and letting people know that you don't tolerate racism. It sounds like you're just tolerating racism under the guise of "not wanting to control people."
 
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There's a difference between "controlling people" and letting people know that you don't tolerate racism. It sounds like you're just tolerating racism under the guise of "not wanting to control people."

LOL - morality police! She cooks food. Unhealthy but tasty food.
 
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No some people want to be able to say N... and use the white slur and say but blacks or so and so use that so I should be able to use racial slurs.

Some people really like using the N word and use it as often as possible.


1) I'm not sure it benefits anyone to act as if the often cited "blacks use Nigga and Nigger" has any relation to the "n-word" debate. They are discussing two absolutely different contexts of use. With the later merely repeating a word, without intent to offend, belittle, or attack anyone

2) the posts I am commenting on talked about the differences between honky and nigger. Surely more than a valid point, but I really don't find racism acceptable in any context.

Understandable at times? Sure. Like I can understand why an old CR activist might be racist towards whites, or a woman that was ganged raped by mexicans might generalize those feelings, and why McCain has been known for less than polite references towards the Vietnamese people.

I still wouldn't consider it acceptable, though
 
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Who's controlling them? I dont care what they do but i wont associate myself with people like that. I have many black friends and wouldnt be a very good friend if I sat around and encouraged people to use racist slurs etc. Its also not the kind of people I would want my children to be around.

What are you talking about?

Pardon me if I don't disown my family because I can't control what they say but I sure as hell don't encourage it. Like you've never associated with someone who used a racial slur, not believable. My grandmother was half Native American and I don't call people pale face or care if they slap their lips and say "woo woo woo". It takes a little bit more for me to get fed up enough to match the punishment with the crime. Fighting intolerance with more intolerance is dumb.

One poster called Indians "savage animals" and that I spoke up against but what my family and Paula Deen said are from ignorant opinions, not trying to be pure nasty. If my sister and her moron husband start saying "hang N's", wear hoods or burn crosses, then I'll disassociate myself from them but otherwise no laws are being broken. I hear slurs against races, handicap people, LGBT's and political parties everyday. Don't like it, don't encourage it but don't run from it either.
 
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There's a difference between "controlling people" and letting people know that you don't tolerate racism. It sounds like you're just tolerating racism under the guise of "not wanting to control people."


Don't tolerate? Who the hell am I to tell people what I find tolerable if they're not impinging on my rights? I'll say it again fighting intolerance with more intolerance is hypocritical.

People have a right to freedom of expression even when you don't agree or we'd all have to be of a mob mentality.
 
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Don't tolerate? Who the hell am I to tell people what I find tolerable if they're not impinging on my rights? I'll say it again fighting intolerance with more intolerance is hypocritical.

People have a right to freedom of expression even when you don't agree or we'd all have to be of a mob mentality.


Well when you hang out with racists people will assume your ine too. The reason is because if you hang around racists you usually are one yourself.
 
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Why dont you like morality?

I dont hang around the immoral or racist.

Birds of a feather and all.

Whenever one feels that his moral standing is superior, I would say that he needs to look a little closer.
 
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LOL - morality police! She cooks food. Unhealthy but tasty food.

can she can still cook food just not for the food network as they dont want her representing their company which is their choice.
 
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Whenever one feels that his moral standing is superior, I would say that he needs to look a little closer.

I just did and yes I am sure racism is immoral.
 
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What are you talking about?

Pardon me if I don't disown my family because I can't control what they say but I sure as hell don't encourage it. Like you've never associated with someone who used a racial slur, not believable. My grandmother was half Native American and I don't call people pale face or care if they slap their lips and say "woo woo woo". It takes a little bit more for me to get fed up enough to match the punishment with the crime. Fighting intolerance with more intolerance is dumb.

One poster called Indians "savage animals" and that I spoke up against but what my family and Paula Deen said are from ignorant opinions, not trying to be pure nasty. If my sister and her moron husband start saying "hang N's", wear hoods or burn crosses, then I'll disassociate myself from them but otherwise no laws are being broken. I hear slurs against races, handicap people, LGBT's and political parties everyday. Don't like it, don't encourage it but don't run from it either.


No I dont associate with people who use racist slurs and if someone says it in front of me I will call them out on it. History is littered with people like yourself who turn the other way when something immoral is happening.
 
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Black people call each other niggers too..so what's the difference..

The word ''Nigger'' derived from Italian meaning black..

I have been called a ''honkey''..I would report it but I have no idea what it means..the same as ''blud claart''..Raas claas..

i cannot take offence..

Maybe you don't take offense because that word doesn't represent centuries of slavery, murder, rape, and other oppression of people for the sole crime of looking like you do.
 
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Well when you hang out with racists people will assume your ine too. The reason is because if you hang around racists you usually are one yourself.


Who's hanging out? I barely talk to my family because they're ding-a-lings.

But the fact that you think associating with any group of people makes you like them says something about you. ;)

Most the people who debate here don't agree with each others philosophies and yet hanging around each other doesn't make them alike.
 
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Who's hanging out? I barely talk to my family because they're ding-a-lings.

But the fact that you think associating with any group of people makes you like them says something about you. ;)

Most the people who debate here don't agree with each others philosophies and yet hanging around each other doesn't make them alike.


People associate with people like themselves.

Birds of a feather do flock together.
 
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Don't tolerate? Who the hell am I to tell people what I find tolerable if they're not impinging on my rights?
It's not about the other people. It's about you. In all relationships, we have things that we tolerate and do not tolerate as a matter of the standards we set for ourselves. Some of us do not tolerate passive aggressiveness. Some of us to do not tolerate verbal abuse. Some of us do not tolerate friends/acquaintances/et al. who bully others. Some of us do not tolerate racism. You obviously tolerate the last one.

I'll say it again fighting intolerance with more intolerance is hypocritical.
This is nothing more than a platitude.

People have a right to freedom of expression even when you don't agree or we'd all have to be of a mob mentality.
Nobody said anything about people not having the right to express themselves. Congratulations on bringing up the ultimate red herring in discussions like this.
 
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No I dont associate with people who use racist slurs and if someone says it in front of me I will call them out on it. History is littered with people like yourself who turn the other way when something immoral is happening.

And I bet you've never used a racist slur, ever? You may want to polish that halo.

That's right I'm not the morality police or the righteous one who calls out everyone. I'm just an average person with flaws who does their best to forgive others for their flaws. Though when it comes to fairness bet I've fought more for it than you.
 
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And I bet you've never used a racist slur, ever? You may want to polish that halo.
I've never used a racial slur outside of having discussions about it like this one. The "everybody does it" thing usually just reveals something about the person invoking it.
 
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It's not about the other people. It's about you. In all relationships, we have things that we tolerate and do not tolerate as a matter of the standards we set for ourselves. Some of us do not tolerate passive aggressiveness. Some of us to do not tolerate verbal abuse. Some of us do not tolerate friends/acquaintances/et al. who bully others. Some of us do not tolerate racism. You obviously do.

It's called "equal rights", not special rights for any particular group or person. When you learn the difference between the law and your opinion you'll be better equipped to express yourself.

This is nothing more than a platitude.

Truth hurts doesn't it?


Nobody said anything about people not having the right to express themselves. Congratulations on bringing up the ultimate red herring in discussions like this.

Sure you did when you said you don't tolerate someone expressing their racist opinion. You don't even like me for not overly condemning someone who said a racist term. Now that's the height of intolerance.
 
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I've never used a racial slur outside of having discussions about it like this one. The "everybody does it" thing usually just reveals something about the person invoking it.

Uh Huh. The "I'm better than everyone else" usually says a lot about the person saying it. Pardon me while I fall down laughing. :lamo
 
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And I bet you've never used a racist slur, ever? You may want to polish that halo.

That's right I'm not the morality police or the righteous one who calls out everyone. I'm just an average person with flaws who does their best to forgive others for their flaws. Though when it comes to fairness bet I've fought more for it than you.

im no angel I have many flaws, but being ignornat/racist is not one of them and I do not tolerate it.
 
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It's called "equal rights", not special rights for any particular group or person. When you learn the difference between the law and your opinion you'll be better equipped to express yourself.
Nobody, except for you, is talking about rights. I'm talking about regular interactions between people.

Truth hurts doesn't it?
No, I'm a big advocate of the truth. You're not providing any though. What you said was a platitude. You said, "fighting intolerance with intolerance is hypocritical". Does this mean you admit that you tolerate racism?

Sure you did when you said you don't tolerate someone expressing their racist opinion. You don't even like me for not overly condemning someone who said a racist term. Now that's the height of intolerance.
Please explain to me how not tolerating racism in my own life is the same thing as denying people their rights. I can't wait. LOL
 
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Meh, I doubt the food networks decision had anything to do with moral outrage. Industries like that are more concerned with public reaction, and obviously the public can be rather fickle about these things.

Well you can't blame them for wanting to maintain their public image.

And contrary to popular opinion, it's not a big conspiracy to get all conservatives. They are a private business, and they have the right to decide who they broadcast.
 
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Maybe her and Hillary would like to hang out?:mrgreen:

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What exactly does Hilary Clinton have to do with any of this? Did she do something with Paula Deen's contract?
 
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im no angel I have many flaws, but being ignornat/racist is not one of them and I do not tolerate it.

You don't tolerate it from others? How you going to prevent it? With more hatred or are you going to overcome it with love and tolerance?

Listen to Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr sometime. Never heard them preach about fighting hate with hate. Trust me, I have ways of showing my disdain for racism but its not with stupidity.
 
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Uh Huh. The "I'm better than everyone else" usually says a lot about the person saying it. Pardon me while I fall down laughing.
Eh, I don't know that never saying racial slurs outside of the context I gave you makes me "better" than anyone. I've certainly done my fair share of other "bad" things, but saying racial slurs is not one of them. I just stated a fact. Makes sense that you would try insult me for doing something good. Why do you think it's bad to have never said a racial slur outside the context I stated?

Oh and grip, remember what I said a while ago when you launched in a random personal attack against me in another thread? I said that you always breakdown when you enter discussions on things like race. You're proving my point. :lol:
 
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