• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Bilderberg 2013: Secret meeting opens press office for 1st time

Menard_K said:
anyone here old 'nuff to remember JFK's warning about SECRET SOCIETIES?

Just a bit of food for thought....
Click to expand...

No, these people with the attention span of fruit flies... Don't even know about what it took to get this much information public, and now are pretending like the "conspiracy theorists" that put in all that effort are STILL the bad guys... It's ridiculous when you think about it.
 
Conspiracy theorists aren't the bad guys, they're the uneducated guys.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
The point is you're insisting that private meetings can't take place if you think they're important enough.
Click to expand...

No... The fact is that many bilderburg members, merely by participating are in violation of the Logan act.

There's a reason why you don't want to mix government power with corporate wealth... I won't spell it out for you.

The point is that this groups existence changes the entire political paradigm... This group, as evidenced by the facts surrounding Obama and Hillary (I've not taken the time for full details and sources), shows that this group acts as king makers, even in our American democratic voting system... How?? Well, by deciding which horse to back with all their money an influence.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Conspiracy theorists aren't the bad guys, they're the uneducated guys.
Click to expand...

Uneducated people that just schooled you officially on how the political world really works. ;)
 
ecofarm said:
I couldn't attend this year, I've supper with the Queen. Nonetheless, I figure they will be discussing geopolitics, business, philosophy, current events... you know, all the same stuff we discuss here.
Click to expand...

Only with the capital and politicians in their pockets to actually DO something about it.
 
BmanMcfly said:
No... The fact is that many bilderburg members, merely by participating are in violation of the Logan act.
Click to expand...

lol, no they're not. By that logic, any time an American opened a business overseas, he'd be violating the Logan Act.

There's a reason why you don't want to mix government power with corporate wealth... I won't spell it out for you.
Click to expand...

Uhhh...you want your government to have wealth. How else is it going to have it? USSR-style?

The point is that this groups existence changes the entire political paradigm... This group, as evidenced by the facts surrounding Obama and Hillary (I've not taken the time for full details and sources), shows that this group acts as king makers, even in our American democratic voting system... How?? Well, by deciding which horse to back with all their money an influence.
Click to expand...

No, it doesn't.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
lol, no they're not. By that logic, any time an American opened a business overseas, he'd be violating the Logan Act.



Uhhh...you want your government to have wealth. How else is it going to have it? USSR-style?



No, it doesn't.
Click to expand...

Ok, you're clearly deliberately missing the points...

Good day.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Ummm...no. lol though
Click to expand...

Again, 2 weeks ago this group did not exist, thanks to the conspiracy theorists... Now you are trying to pretend like you know more about it than the "conspiracy theorists" that just got proven right. (on yet another issue)
 
BmanMcfly said:
Ok, you're clearly deliberately missing the points...

Good day.
Click to expand...

You don't have a point, dude, that's what I'm showing you.

And everyone knew it existed, but of course you need to lie to justify your hallucinations. There were public comments about it as early as 1964, a book about it in 1994, yadda yadda. LOL you think people just found out two weeks ago?

lol this is why I saw conspiracy theorists are uneducated. QED
 
BmanMcfly said:
Ya, I've only been looking into this groups movements for about 10 years, and seeing their decisions come to pass afterwards almost like clockwork...

But I'm not even that knowledgable, but the difference between the both of us is that to you this group has just come into existence, I've been talking about this group for years and have read most of the available documents that have been leaked from the groups meetings.
Click to expand...

I've been following Alex Jones for 10 years! There must be a conspiracy!

Dude, you coulda been fartin' in the toilet for 10 years and achieved a similar level of productivity and expertise.


What if...? said:
Only with the capital and politicians in their pockets to actually DO something about it.
Click to expand...

Ah, I see... the corruption goes all the way to the top. Yes, I suppose without that you'd have nothing.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
You don't have a point, dude, that's what I'm showing you.

And everyone knew it existed, but of course you need to lie to justify your hallucinations. There were public comments about it as early as 1964, a book about it in 1994, yadda yadda. LOL you think people just found out two weeks ago?

lol this is why I saw conspiracy theorists are uneducated. QED
Click to expand...

Lmao... Prove me wrong by making my point.

Yes, the group has been around since the 50's, people have tried to uncover information and published a few books about them... HOWEVER, discussion was relegated as a "conspiracy theory" and not as a real subject until the MSM covers the story to give it legitimacy (except for a small handful of articles in local newspapers around the conferences).

To the average person this was a "conspiracy theory" until just a couple weeks ago...
 
BmanMcfly said:
Lmao... Prove me wrong by making my point.

Yes, the group has been around since the 50's, people have tried to uncover information and published a few books about them... HOWEVER, discussion was relegated as a "conspiracy theory" and not as a real subject until the MSM covers the story to give it legitimacy (except for a small handful of articles in local newspapers around the conferences).

To the average person this was a "conspiracy theory" until just a couple weeks ago...
Click to expand...

No, that's a blatant lie. It has been known as a real meeting for at least a generation, probably longer. The conspiracy theory that everyone laughs at is what happens there.

We're still laughing, by the way. I thought you said good day? Or was that JUST WHAT THEY WANTED ME TO THINK?!
 
BmanMcfly said:
No, these people with the attention span of fruit flies... Don't even know about what it took to get this much information public, and now are pretending like the "conspiracy theorists" that put in all that effort are STILL the bad guys... It's ridiculous when you think about it.
Click to expand...

I was a teenager when JFK was murdered
& at the time School was assigning homework to stay up on current events.
So I specifically paid attention to what the President was saying.

Note also, if I may mention a "nit" here, the NIST produced a computer model
of how the alleged collapse of WTC7 happened, and when asked for the
foundational data that produced that computer model, the public is being told
THAT IS SECRET ..... go figure ....
 
ecofarm said:
I've been following Alex Jones for 10 years! There must be a conspiracy!

Dude, you coulda been fartin' in the toilet for 10 years and achieved a similar level of productivity and expertise.




Ah, I see... the corruption goes all the way to the top. Yes, I suppose without that you'd have nothing.
Click to expand...

If you had tremendous wealth, and the political power that goes with it, you wouldn't use that wealth and power to get more wealth and power?

There's no way you'd coordinate with others in similar positions?

No way you'd make arangements and agreements?

You screw america and we'll screw europe.

And we'll team up to screw Africa!
 
What if...? said:
You screw america and we'll screw europe.

And we'll team up to screw Africa!
Click to expand...

Yeah, umm, that wouldn't be my plan. Who makes plans like that? At what point in your "reasoning" does world destruction become a viable option and beneficial endeavor?

It's really much more likely they're talking sports. After all, it's not like Soros needed Bilder to break the bank of England.
 
ecofarm said:
Yeah, umm, that wouldn't be my plan. Who makes plans like that? At what point in your "reasoning" does world destruction become a viable option and beneficial endeavor?

It's really much more likely they're talking sports. After all, it's not like Soros needed Bilder to break the bank of England.
Click to expand...

Not destruction.

Extraction.
 
ecofarm said:
Yeah, umm, that wouldn't be my plan. Who makes plans like that? At what point in your "reasoning" does world destruction become a viable option and beneficial endeavor?
Click to expand...

Actually, for people that seek power the answer is ALWAYS "I could do with a little more power".

The destruction part has more with making sure that nobody else can ever develop sufficiently to stand against you.

It's really much more likely they're talking sports. After all, it's not like Soros needed Bilder to break the bank of England.
Click to expand...

If that's the case, they are discussing how to manipulate sports to extract the most wealth from the owners. The owners in turn work to extract the most wealth from the consumers, so eventually the cost-benefit of fixing games starts favoring corruption...

How can a ref fix the game? By selectively calling penalties, for example.

The fact that, you are looking at this from YOUR PERSPECTIVE, as a decent person who is happy with the good simple things of life... NOT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE of the cut-throat world of global capital / politics.
 
BmanMcfly said:
The fact that, you are looking at this from YOUR PERSPECTIVE, as a decent person who is happy with the good simple things of life... NOT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE of the cut-throat world of global capital / politics.
Click to expand...

Every group has good, bad, righteous, evil, smart, dumb, clever, wise and the everything else. If there's one thing my travels have taught, it's that people are people. I don't do the "us and them" thing. I'm sure the Bilder Group has its share of good people.
 
ecofarm said:
Every group has good, bad, righteous, evil, smart, dumb, clever, wise and the everything else. If there's one thing my travels have taught, it's that people are people. I don't do the "us and them" thing. I'm sure the Bilder Group has its share of good people.
Click to expand...

Sure, there are some that are not fond of the agenda and so leak their agendas... That's mainly how there is as little known about the group as it is...

However, when you find out about the overall agenda as its been uncovered, let me know... Better you find it on your own rather than me telling you since you wouldnt believe anyway.
 
BmanMcfly said:
Sure, there are some that are not fond of the agenda and so leak their agendas... That's mainly how there is as little known about the group as it is...

However, when you find out about the overall agenda as its been uncovered, let me know... Better you find it on your own rather than me telling you since you wouldnt believe anyway.
Click to expand...

Perhaps their interest, like everyone else, is world development and you just don't like the method.
 
Alex Jones rants on BBC talk show, he cannot help himself because he lacks any self-control.

 
ecofarm said:
Perhaps their interest, like everyone else, is world development and you just don't like the method.
Click to expand...

Perhaps you don't know what you are talking about so I'm challenging you to fun out for yourself... What documentation is available is mostly easily accessible on the Internet, and then you won't have to guess as deeply because you will see the logic at play.

Or you can maintain, baselessly mind you, that they operate under the best intentions...
 
Peter King said:
Alex Jones rants on BBC talk show, he cannot help himself because he lacks any self-control.

Click to expand...


2 points:
1- that video was either edited or they put him on tv with the express purpose of callin him an idiot... Easy to do when you won't debate on facts (which should be simple against an idiot)

2- this is what I'm talking about how position is determined with such narrow information that Alex Jones = bilderburg.
 
Peter King said:
Well, usually peasants, farmers, dirt bags and peons usually do not add something to global politics, big business etc. Not that this makes them any less, but for the purpose of the Bilderberg conference they do not add anything to the dynamic (I would assume).
Click to expand...


My point precisely! The discussions, problems, plans, schemes, and agendas of billionaires and powerstrokers is certainly not the same as others. Perhaps deciding which countries might be allowed to devalue their currency might be a subject of discussion. If you have a billion sitting around in a Nation that devalues, you lose, big time. Maybe the Railroad magnates will want to present blocks to the Nicaragua Canal proposal because currently it is often cheaper to unload cargo on the West Coast and ship it by rail to the East Coast and reload on a ship to bypass the Panama Canal and save money. Perhaps this is where the policy came from to do Cypress type bank thefts by the banks themselves, because I don't hear of too many Russian Oligarchs at these meetings. Food for thought. It isn't about the things you a I discuss at the pub, church, school or flea market.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom