66gardeners
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Seems this dude intentionally left out the part where men need to step up and be real men in this world
Seems this dude intentionally left out the part where men need to step up and be real men in this world
At some point it'd be really nice if conservatives figured out that they're the only people bringing up political correctness as if it matters. My concerns have nothing to do with political correctness, so to the extent that you're commenting on it, you're not understanding what I'm saying. My concerns have to do with 1) the factual inaccuracy of the statement, and 2) the underlying misogyny which is, in fact, archaic. There's nothing wrong with being old fashioned in theory. There are plenty of things wrong with quite a lot of old fashioned thinking to the extent that it's bigoted, misogynistic, etc.
So no, I really didn't prove his point, you've misunderstood mine.
I'm gonna guess a few people here at DP think this train of thought hits a big nail squarely on the head. :shock:
Reading comprehension. You should try it. That's not what she said. :roll:
Seems this dude intentionally left out the part where men need to step up and be real men in this world
In 2013 people need 2 incomes to support themselves and their children llpeople can litterally not afford to stay home all day to look after the children . The greatest impact for a women was raiseing children in the 1950's . Besides I met a few males who are practically arm candy for woman those roles are changing .
So why are so many young women having kids out of wedlock then? Some of them have a brood with multiple daddies before they can legally get a drink. Maybe it's time to bring the word "bastard" back into the common lexicon again and worry more about the kid's feelings before he's born.
I have seen many very determined stay at home mothers in many areas of their lives and I'm not going to humor the idea they just did nothing but sit on their asses and take care of kids when many of them did not.
He also told men that their role in their family was more important than making $1 million. What he told everybody was that their family was the most important thing they would ever do with their lives.
It's not nasty, it's exactly how she speaks to those who oppose her views on any abortion related issue. On abortion, no one who doesn't have a vagina is allowed to have an opinion.
No one is saying that they sat on their asses, my mother certaintly didnt. But Women who go out and strive to be successful should be encouraged and appluaded for their ambition/ drive to provide for their family.
"She did it first!!" :roll:
Seems you only read the part the OP and the author of the article wanted you to read in order to make their politically correct point - if you'd seen the entire speech you'd know he did just what you suggest he intentionally didn't do.
No one is saying that they sat on their asses, my mother certaintly didnt. But Women who go out and strive to be successful should be encouraged and appluaded for their ambition/ drive to provide for their family.
Really. Suppose you clue is in as to his wording about that since you know so much.
Really. Suppose you clue is in as to his wording about that since you know so much.
I'll paraphrase and let you do your own research if you want more - he encouraged young men not to be consumed by being a successful entrepreneur, making millions, and encouraged them to be great husbands and fathers who protect and provide for their family.
His message, in its entirety, was basically not to be consumed by material wealth and to see the value in being the best spouse and parent you can be and not make those secondary to successful careers and money.
I don't do your research. You paraphrasing is worthless for credibilities' sake. .
I don't do your research. You paraphrasing is worthless for credibilities' sake. .
What makes you think the speaker didn't do just that? He said, to paraphrase - if you choose to work, God bless you in that.
He didn't denigrade that. What he did do is encourage, challenge, young people to ignore the current social pressure to have a career and make scads of money and have lots of material wealth and buck the trend and see being a great wife and mother or a great husband and father as being spectacular achievements as well. Just because you encourage in one direction doesn't mean you're denigrading another.
True to the first part.
What's irritating is that the average working mother will not be seeking out scads of money - she will struggle to balance career and motherhood to simply cover the basic bills. Very few enter into the higher end of the working field - in part because that takes time to climb *up* to - and by that point many hard working mothers don't have young children at home.
A lot of women stay at home for those first few years - OR - build a career, put it on hold to raise a family - then change, again, back to career when their kids are older.
For an educated man - he doesn't seem to understand this at all. (orator - not fellow poster)
“It was good that he said that,” junior Marina Swaggerty told WRTV. “Parents need to be there for their kids. Lately people are getting too into their jobs and not caring enough about their kids, and they are failing through high school.”
The junior’s mother, Lisa Swaggerty, told the Indianapolis ABC affiliate that she understood Heck to be calling for a balance between career and family.
Other audience members reacted negatively to the remarks.
“It jumped out at me that he said they shouldn’t pursue a professional career,” junior Corey Parton told WRTV. “Maybe that’s not how he meant it. Maybe he does want women to be successful and get a college degree, but it was a little out of place.”
Another student added that his grandmother was particularly offended.
No one is saying that they sat on their asses, my mother certaintly didnt. But Women who go out and strive to be successful should be encouraged and appluaded for their ambition/ drive to provide for their family.