Some men can't be daddies.
Are the mother as caretaker and father as provider/protector stereotypical gender roles for women and men, respectively?
There is nothing bigoted about his statement. Try again.
I'm sorry, but when you used the word archaic you did not make any sort of effort to put any importance on exactly what it might be. That is not my mistake, but yours.
Btw, the only reason any of this matters to anyone ever is political correctness.
Who said anything about political correctness? Certainly not me. The statement was wrong because it's factually inaccurate and based in archaic thinking re: women.
Doesn't the bolded kind of prove his point? There is nothing wrong with being old fashioned generally speaking. We don't all have to live by the new ways of thinking and it might just be the old way is better. Since being old fashioned these days is thought of as politically incorrect, I'm sorry, but you just proved his point.
Never said there was. I said his statement was misogynistic. I said there are many old fashioned things that are bigoted. Do try to read more closely.
Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.
Well, that's clearly why you're so involved in this issue. It sure isn't why I am.
:roll: You're still wrong.
so your saying a CEO doesnt have more ambition than someone who stays at home? You know how hard it is to become a CEO of any company right?
High school commencement speaker tells females: stay at home, don
I'm gonna guess a few people here at DP think this train of thought hits a big nail squarely on the head. :shock:
Your statement was an absolute statement. I don't really care for one exception in this case.
meh its true either way. Anyone who strives to better themselves in any form of employment is ambitous, certaintly more ambitious than an employee who remains in the same position or a stay at home parent. Choosing to remain at home all your life is great and traditional but its not very ambitous.
So you're the prototypical "a woman's place is in the home, cooking, cleaning, barefoot, and pregnant" type of girl ???
Look for the boobs. Biologically, that ought to tell you who should take care of the kids.
Well, no. He encouraged women to be stay at home moms and men to be the protectors and providers. If his message was as simple as "being a parent is important", then he wouldn't have supported it by telling people to occupy stereotypical gender roles. He would have told the men that they should also consider staying home and told the women that they should also consider being the protector and provider.That's not what he said though. He said being a parent would be the most important thing you ever do with your life no matter what you do. And it is.
Great. Another idiot telling human beings with vaginas that their vaginas are their only source of worth. Just what we needed. :roll:
Well, no. He encouraged women to be stay at home moms and men to be the protectors and providers. If his message was as simple as "being a parent is important", then he wouldn't have supported it by telling people to occupy stereotypical gender roles. He would have told the men that they should also consider staying home and told the women that they should also consider being the protector and provider.
Well, no. He encouraged women to be stay at home moms and men to be the protectors and providers. If his message was as simple as "being a parent is important", then he wouldn't have supported it by telling people to occupy stereotypical gender roles. He would have told the men that they should also consider staying home and told the women that they should also consider being the protector and provider.
I read what he said, he said you should be "invested" in your children, and that was far more important than anything you can accomplish in your career. He didn't say don't pursue a career. He didn't say to stay home and occupy any gender role. He said being a good mother would make more difference in the world than anything you're likely to do in your career.
The issue is why didnt he also direct this to the men in the audience, he targetted the women because he is still holding on to the traditional household roles.
I read what he said too. He not only said everything that you mentioned. He also specifically encouraged women to be stay at home moms and encouraged men to be providers and protectors. That's what I am talking about. Can you address that instead of avoiding it?I read what he said, he said you should be "invested" in your children, and that was far more important than anything you can accomplish in your career. He didn't say don't pursue a career. He didn't say to stay home and occupy any gender role. He said being a good mother would make more difference in the world than anything you're likely to do in your career.
I read what he said too. He not only said everything that you mentioned. He also specifically encouraged women to be stay at home moms and encouraged men to be providers and protectors. That's what I am talking about. Can you address that instead of avoiding it?
Yeah, my problem is that he didn't tell both the boys and girls in the audience that they could BOTH consider being stay at home parents or being the provider and protector. Had he done that, I wouldn't have a problem because I get the argument that family is important. But when you start encouraging young people to occupy stereotypical gender roles, you become a problem.And once again we are back around to "what is wrong with suggesting women be stay at home moms?"
After all, our society is so, so much better during the era of women putting careers ahead of family than we were when women raised their children first and worked after. NOT.
Yeah, because we all know it's your vagina that does the actual work of raising and nuturing a family. :roll: