Re: Boy Scouts Banned By Alabama Pastor Greg Walker
2) This doesn't address the fact that the church actively ignores those guilty of "better sins" who are unrepentent about them. I've yet to see a church kick out a member not being repentent about being fat, lazy, envious, lustful, etc. etc. etc.
3) Of course it's his legal right, but we're talking about his compliance with the bible. Fact is, the boyscouts always hired sinners to be scout leaders, now they hire more sinners. Their curriculum hasn't changed one bit. The pastor just threw a hissy fit because he wanted to make a political statement because he hates homosexuality more than the other sins.
4) Likewise, everyone who doesn't discriminate against gays isn't condoning their behavior.
5) Last time I checked, everyone is running around crying about overpopulation. Why would this be a bad thing? I'm not gay centric, I just don't like people trying to make other people's lives miserable for no real reason. Gays have been harassed for thousands of years, and I'm not interested in supporting that status quo. It's everyone's right to believe what they want. When the christians however petition their government to have anti-gay laws passed or things such as marriage withheld, it becomes a problem. That's unacceptable regardless of who they're targeting.
2. just a tad apples and oranges here, as previously described, these type sinners are not actively advocating that their sins become okay, accepted, that there sins no longer be considered sins, that it just become "normal". There is a quite a difference, you know.
3. I think the bible promotes good associations doesn't it? Ministering to those who sin, trying to help the sinners overcome that sin, not enabling the sinner to continue to commit, that is not what the bible says?
I really have no independent corroboration of what you are saying with regards to hiring of sinners as scout leaders, except for the concession earlier that yes, we are all, indeed, sinners... And guess what, this pastor is allowed to hate these sins as much as he pleases...
4. No, those who don't discriminate are not necessarily condoning, or not, agreed... but if some group is screaming to get into another group that has been against allowing that group in for certain condemned behaviors, and now they do let them in, what else would kids, anybody for that matter, think? What is the message other that one of acceptance?
5. Personally, I am not on that overpopulation bandwagon. I live in one of the most populous states of the union and can drive on some stretches of road at 55mph for a decently long time without even seeing a house, another car or individual...many indicate the world population will peak in 2050, then head downwards...so, that overpopulation argument does not hold much water for me.
We have discriminated, prudently, with a lot of various groups over the years, this just happens to be one of them. That we have become more tolerant should not be taken as weakness, toleration can be removed so fast the head will spin... caution is the suggestion here... everyone in a free society should be appreciative of what freedom and tolerance they have...would seem prudent advice coming from to one who studies a lot of history....
Christians, generally, were not petitioning to have the government have anti gay laws passed, Christians have pretty much maintained the idea of morals, traditional marriage that has been a proven success, etc...it is those actively campaigning in other directions that have created the friction between the two... and we are just swinging, bringing the ship of morality so our full broadsides maybe brought to bear on this battle... we have neglected it too long...
So, if a group comes along and wants inter-familial marriage, an incestuous marriage in other words, that would be totally acceptable to you? Society has not the right to determine what is unacceptable? I mean that is just plain silliness to say that a society making rules about what is best for society and also what is bad, that targeting of certain behaviors is unacceptable ... so just anything goes? Anything goes only in chaos... the smarter of us fight those who desire for this chaos...
