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Rick Perry Vetoes Bipartisan "Buy American" Bill

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Yet another corporate lackey shows his true colours - and they ain't Red, White & Blue

Rick Perry Vetoes Bipartisan "Buy American" Bill

Perry vetoed the "Buy American" bill, HB 535, which would have established a preference for the purchase of Texas and American manufactured goods by the State of Texas when they are of equal cost and quality to foreign-produced products. It's common sense, and it's a great way to keep our tax revenue in Texas and in America.

The bill, sponsored by Rep. Yvonne Davis, D-Dallas, and Sen. Judith Zaffirini, D-Laredo, passed the Senate 23-7 and the House, 145-0. That's some pretty broad support.

The Texas Senate and House are Republican-controlled.

Here's the history of the bill
 
You do know what the Burnt Orange Report is, right? What the burnt orange is a reference to?
 
A foreign corporate lackey?
 
The law seems stupid to begin with. How do you legislate preference of purchase between american and foreign? What? You're going to tax people if they don't buy american when they can for the same price? It seems very anti-market and a very stupid bill.
 
The law seems stupid to begin with. How do you legislate preference of purchase between american and foreign? What? You're going to tax people if they don't buy american when they can for the same price? It seems very anti-market and a very stupid bill.

It's legislating preference for when the state purchases something. Private citizens are unaffected.
 
It's legislating preference for when the state purchases something.

Ok, again, how do you legislate that? You send someone to buy pencils for the offices right? He goes out, buys foreign... when he could have bought american. What will you do? sack him? fine him? Fine the department he was working under? Because the first 2 are stupid and the last one just means you are transferring money through the bureaucracy.

It's a stupid law.

If the state officials want to purchase american products for the state, encourage them to do so. You cannot legislate it. It is impossible to enforce. Also, what if you don't know that there are goods that you are looking for in Texas, manufactured in the USA... only the foreign ones. And you buy them... and it's against the law... how will you enforce that? It's stupid.

What if there is a complex machinery, like a car. it may be assembled in the USA but maybe the engine is made in Taiwan and the steering wheel in China. Does it count as american?

Again. A very stupid law made by stupid people. I think Rick Perry showed some smarts when he vetoed it. Based on what I read so far.
 
Ok, again, how do you legislate that? You send someone to buy pencils for the offices right? He goes out, buys foreign... when he could have bought american. What will you do? sack him? fine him? Fine the department he was working under? Because the first 2 are stupid and the last one just means you are transferring money through the bureaucracy.

It's a stupid law.

If the state officials want to purchase american products for the state, encourage them to do so. You cannot legislate it. It is impossible to enforce. Also, what if you don't know that there are goods that you are looking for in Texas, manufactured in the USA... only the foreign ones. And you buy them... and it's against the law... how will you enforce that? It's stupid.

What if there is a complex machinery, like a car. it may be assembled in the USA but maybe the engine is made in Taiwan and the steering wheel in China. Does it count as american?

Again. A very stupid law made by stupid people. I think Rick Perry showed some smarts when he vetoed it. Based on what I read so far.

It creates a preference, not a mandate. There's nothing to enforce. Maybe if you read the one-page bill that would be obvious.
 
Here is why Perry vetoed the bill:

"House Bill 535 requires state agencies, when purchasing goods, to give preference to goods "manufactured" in Texas. Current law already requires state agencies to give preference to goods produced and grown in Texas. While I support and encourage our agencies to buy goods from Texas businesses, this bill simply does not change current law."

From the same link: "The bill, sponsored by Dallas-area representitive [sic] Yvonne Davis, could still become law if the governor's veto is overturned by Texas House and Senate voting." Perry Vetoes "Buy American" Bill | NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

Total bonus if the AFL-CIO is unhappy.
 
It creates a preference, not a mandate. There's nothing to enforce. Maybe if you read the one-page bill that would be obvious.

Again, its stupid. You don't make laws for preferences. How do you legislate preferences?

There is no such thing. It seems obliviously stupid.
 
Again, its stupid. You don't make laws for preferences. How do you legislate preferences?

There is no such thing. It seems obliviously stupid.

Governments can have preferences, I don't see how this is so hard to comprehend. How else is a government to set its policies if not by legislation?
 
how is equal quality measured?

Rather vaguely.

The bill doesn't really DO anything. It just states there will be a preference, so theoretically people in charge of the purchase decisions will keep that in mind. Apparently it's already done this way, making the bill redundant.
 
Rather vaguely.

The bill doesn't really DO anything. It just states there will be a preference, so theoretically people in charge of the purchase decisions will keep that in mind. Apparently it's already done this way, making the bill redundant.

unenforceable and ambigious legislation should be vetoed
 
If this issue were something effecting me it would be my preference that my State give preference to the best quality good/service at the best/most competitive price.

Personally, I don't care whether or not my State financially supports Ultra Mega Big Agriculture just because his business happens to be in my State.

If the guy across the State Line underbids him, and his tomatos are just as yummy, I'd be just fine eating some Pennsylvania tomatos.
 
Yet another corporate lackey shows his true colours - and they ain't Red, White & Blue



The Texas Senate and House are Republican-controlled.

Here's the history of the bill

Hopefully they override his veto. As far as I am concerned government should not in any shape or form aid in outsourcing.
 
And in the meantime, what matters is what Texas wants, not what other states' opinions are.
 
I worked for a state University in Texas for a decade,
I can assure you this Bill was unnecessary.
There is something called the State contract, All monies tied to the state for procurement
should use the state contract whenever possible.
This was enforced by the purchasing office's raises being tied to how often the contract was used.
Back when I worked for the state, the contract was printed and about 800 pages of 8 point lettering.
There were very few things not on contract.
 
I didn't realize we made anything in America anyway. So, this is pointless.

What is "made in America"? Is a Toyota "made in America"?

Sounds like BOMFOG. I can't believe I'll stand with a dork like Perry but really now.....
 
Governments can have preferences, I don't see how this is so hard to comprehend. How else is a government to set its policies if not by legislation?

I don't know about you, but I have never heard of a government legislation regarding preference. I was always under the impression that the law is the law and it doesn't legislate half-assed things unless you wanna have a really stupid code of laws.
 
And in the meantime, what matters is what Texas wants, not what other states' opinions are.

Which part of Texas are you talking about? In this instance, the bill passed unanimously thru the Texas House and was vetoed by one person - So what does Texas want?
 
I don't know about you, but I have never heard of a government legislation regarding preference. I was always under the impression that the law is the law and it doesn't legislate half-assed things unless you wanna have a really stupid code of laws.


Maybe you should read a bit more
The Buy American Act of 1933 requires the federal government to buy American–made iron, steel, and manufactured goods wherever possible. A product is defined as American–made under “Buy American” if at least 50 percent of its constituent parts and/or materials originated in the US.

Twenty-three states have "Buy American" laws that affect public procurement
 
Which part of Texas are you talking about? In this instance, the bill passed unanimously thru the Texas House and was vetoed by one person - So what does Texas want?

Texas has two houses. See post #8 re how these houses can override the veto if this is the will of the people.

Meanwhile, be aware that Burnt Orange has an agenda. I first became aware of it several years ago when it was trying to float the notion that Perry is gay.
 
The law seems stupid to begin with. How do you legislate preference of purchase between american and foreign? What? You're going to tax people if they don't buy american when they can for the same price? It seems very anti-market and a very stupid bill.

This was for State procurement. I don't think it was stupid, it should be set as a guideline not made a law necessarily.
 
I don't know about you, but I have never heard of a government legislation regarding preference. I was always under the impression that the law is the law and it doesn't legislate half-assed things unless you wanna have a really stupid code of laws.

I like chocolate more than vanilla. When offered a choice, I will choose chocolate over vanilla. I cannot explain why this is, it's just that my taste buds react more positively to chocolate.

A government body has no inherent preference like my taste buds do. Its preferences have to be created artificially via legislation or other legal means. So they do, because sometimes the government has to make a choice between two things much like I do when two bowls of ice cream sit in front of me.

Why don't you explain to me how you think the government should decide between two options.
 
I like chocolate more than vanilla. When offered a choice, I will choose chocolate over vanilla. I cannot explain why this is, it's just that my taste buds react more positively to chocolate.

A government body has no inherent preference like my taste buds do. Its preferences have to be created artificially via legislation or other legal means. So they do, because sometimes the government has to make a choice between two things much like I do when two bowls of ice cream sit in front of me.

Why don't you explain to me how you think the government should decide between two options.

By deciding according to common sense. There are people who are responsible for these things. That's their job, to buy stuff so that the govt can function.

I told you, maybe this is common, but for me its a first. The first time a govt had to legislate preference in purchasing goods and services for itself.
 
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