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IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show[W:249]

Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

Restrictions on giving are restrictions on speech.:cool:

Are you against any restrictions on speech? Like yelling "fire" in a movie theatre? What criteria, if any, would you use?
 
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I doubt she is in any hot water whatsoever. She is a loyal soldier and, like Susan Rice, will retain power in some capacity with the higher circles of the Democratic Party.

Lois Lerner is a bureaucrat; a life long civil servant. She does not hold a political job. She will not be "retained".... in the higher circles of the Democratic Party because she never worked for the Democratic Party. People are letting their imaginations run wild.... Salem Witch trials 2013.
 
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Those are not direct contributions, they are individuals and pac's.



I see...

So there is no company anywhere that has ever given money to a political campaign or candidate.

I don't really know how to address an assertion like that. Our politicians have more bribes than constituents and you don't see it. This is really quite amazing.
 
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Almost none.

good ... some at least ... I thought that speech that subverts the democratic process might be one we would restrict a tad ...
 
Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

Are you against any restrictions on speech? Like yelling "fire" in a movie theatre? What criteria, if any, would you use?
Yeah. You can't do that. You can yell "fire" at a public swimming pool though. All the democrats flee. It's really quite amusing.
 
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Yeah. You can't do that. You can yell "fire" at a public swimming pool though. All the democrats flee. It's really quite amusing.

:funny: :lamo:

Good morning, humbolt! :2wave:
 
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Morning Pol. How's that leg doing?

I have to keep remembering that I can't jump and run fast quite yet, but the surgeon is astonished at how rapidly I am recovering. I really don't have time to do otherwise, and I told him that. Too much interesting stuff to do to sit around! :2bow:
 
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I have to keep remembering that I can't jump and run fast quite yet, but the surgeon is astonished at how rapidly I am recovering. I really don't have time to do otherwise, and I told him that. Too much interesting stuff to do to sit around! :2bow:
That's great news. When immobilized, being able to get around is everything. Funny how that works, and works every time. So, now you admit you have an agenda. I knew it!
 
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That's great news. When immobilized, being able to get around is everything. Funny how that works, and works every time. So, now you admit you have an agenda. I knew it!

Oh yeah! :lamo:
 
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"What are little boys made of? Frogs, and snails, and puppy dog tails!"

:fathers_d: to all the dads out there! Have a great day! :thumbs:
 
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good ... some at least ... I thought that speech that subverts the democratic process might be one we would restrict a tad ...

It is restrictions on speech themselves that subvert the democratic process.:cool:
 
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Since the whole Cincinnati operation was run by a rightwing republican, don't you think conservatives should less about it and not more?

This whole thing has blown up in Issa's face. It was apparently a set up by a GOP operative who either wanted to promote a false scandal, or who hated the tea party because it was destroying the GOP's electoral chances.

Take your pick!
 
Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

Since the whole Cincinnati operation was run by a rightwing republican, don't you think conservatives should less about it and not more?

This whole thing has blown up in Issa's face. It was apparently a set up by a GOP operative who either wanted to promote a false scandal, or who hated the tea party because it was destroying the GOP's electoral chances.

Take your pick!

Whistling past the graveyard.:shock:
 
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It is restrictions on speech themselves that subvert the democratic process.:cool:[/QUOTE

sure Jack, as if that's what we're talking about ... sounds good though ... you almost sound like you like the ideas of fairness and justice ...
anyway, happy fathers' day ...
 
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It is restrictions on speech themselves that subvert the democratic process.:cool:[/QUOTE

sure Jack, as if that's what we're talking about ... sounds good though ... you almost sound like you like the ideas of fairness and justice ...
anyway, happy fathers' day ...

And happy Father's Day to you, even though you fear free speech.:mrgreen:
 
Re: IRS higher-ups requested info on conservative groups, letters show

Since the whole Cincinnati operation was run by a rightwing republican, don't you think conservatives should less about it and not more?

This whole thing has blown up in Issa's face. It was apparently a set up by a GOP operative who either wanted to promote a false scandal, or who hated the tea party because it was destroying the GOP's electoral chances.

Take your pick!
The manager said he was a "conservative Republican" which is meaningless. I was a registered Republican even when I switched and started voting for Democrats. And the the term conservative is subjective. So, don't put much faith in his statement.
 
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actually, I'm advocating protecting it, not selling it the way you are ... still, enjoy your day ...

No. You want bureaucrats to ration political speech. That path leads to the Thought Police. I prefer to let contending citizens invest their money. Their motives may vary (Robert Redford and the Koch brothers, for example) but I'd rather run the risk of their influence than state control.:cool:
 
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No. You want bureaucrats to ration political speech. That path leads to the Thought Police. I prefer to let contending citizens invest their money. Their motives may vary (Robert Redford and the Koch brothers, for example) but I'd rather run the risk of their influence than state control.:cool:

set it up, rationalize it any way you want, but in the end you and I know what it means ...
 
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actually, I'm advocating protecting it, not selling it the way you are ... still, enjoy your day ...

No. You want bureaucrats to ration political speech. That path leads to the Thought Police. I prefer to let contending citizens invest their money. Their motives may vary (Robert Redford and the Koch brothers, for example) but I'd rather run the risk of their influence than state control.:cool:


I don't know what you guys are up to with your comment chain but I'm getting a headche trying to follow who said what.
 
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