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Prince Harry visits Arlington National Cemetery

apdst said:
Did he go to the WW2 Memorial, get on his knees and and pay homage to the men that save his title for him?
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He will do that as soon as an American president goes to Paris and thanks them on his knees for the existence of the US.
 
DA60 said:
He could certainly state his dislike for taking taxpayers money - which (to my knowledge) he never has.

Where is your proof that he has personally, by himself (as you stated), raised millions for charity.

And even if he has, his stinking rich family takes about $60 million a year (to my knowledge) of British taxpayers money just to be figureheads.

BBC News - Taxpayer paying less to keep Royal Family

If they took that money and gave it to charity - that would do FAR more for British charities then anything they can raise.

And you know as well as I do that Royal men have virtually NO CHOICE - they have to serve in the military (or Prince Phillip would probably shame them to death)...so it's not like he volunteered (though the two tours part is a nice touch - assuming it was his idea).


I am not saying the guy is a scumbag or anything. He could indeed be a nice chap and an honorable fellow who is just naive to how the monarchy is a dinosaur.

But I need proof before I start calling him - or anyone - a 'class act'.
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Below is a charity started by Prince Harry.

Sentebale (forget-me-not) is a new charity designed to help children and young people in Lesotho. The charity’s joint Founders and Patrons are Prince Seeiso of Lesotho and Prince Harry.

Sentebale will offer long-term support to community organisations working with children and young people, and in particular to those working with orphans and other vulnerable children.


In 2009, he co-founded The Foundation of Prince William and Prince Harry with his older brother Prince William. The Foundation’s three focuses are on giving guidance and support to disadvantaged young people, building awareness on sustainable developement and environmental conservation, and on the welfare of members of the Armed Forces and their families.

He continues to help fundraise for his mothers namesake chairy which is an independent grant-giving charity established in September 1997 to continue the Princess’s humanitarian work in the United Kingdom and overseas. Working to create a world in which the rights of the disadvantaged are respected by giving grants to organisations, championing charitable causes, campaigning and raising awareness.




Just a small handful of the charities Harry has founded and supports which have raised millions.
 
apdst said:
Did he go to the WW2 Memorial, get on his knees and and pay homage to the men that save his title for him?
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Yeh im sure he did just as he probably did for the French dead, British dead, Russian Dead, Polish Dead etc.
 
falcata said:
Oh! Nice dig.
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Ah don't pay some of these posters any mind, they are the Goldilock posters. They are never happy, to them everything is either too hard or too soft.

You see a post that a president went to a funeral of a fallen soldier and here comes a Goldilock to protest the president is just making a photop.
You see a post that a president didn't go to to a funeral of a fallen soldier and here comes a Goldilock to protest the president doesn't care about a dead soldier.

You see a non partisan post such as when Steve Irwin the crocodile hunter died and you would think who could bitch about that. Well, here came the Goldilocks in droves.

You can even find the Goldilocks at your local restaurant complaining and bitching about everything on their plate to some poor college student waitress.

I don't know if they weren't breastfed long enough as a baby but some people have always have to complain. Hence the name Goldilocks.
 
His name's not Harold, it's Henry, and he's the spare, not the heir.
 
apdst said:
Did he go to the WW2 Memorial, get on his knees and and pay homage to the men that save his title for him?
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Actually, by the time the U.S. entered the war, his title was already saved. The UK couldn't have defeated the Germans without U.S. help, but they were in no danger of losing the war by December of 1941. There was this little thing called the Eastern Front that eliminated that as any possibility. It's in all the history books. Try reading one.
 
Wiggen said:
Yet apparently the people of the United Kingdom disagree with you. Go figure.
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All that proves are the masses are idiots...as in all countries.

Just like the American masses were idiots when they re-elected Bush and then Obama.
 
Wiggen said:
Yes. Apparently you judge people based on who their parents are.
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No, I judge people on what they do and say.

When he denounces his 'parents' for being stinking rich but still taking over $60 million from recession-mired British taxpayers just to be figureheads...then my respect for him will instantly grow.

Now I respect that he did a second tour in Afghanistan (the first tour was mandatory...no Royal male cannot serve in the military).

However, his supporting of stinking rich people (his family) taking $60 million dollars per year from mostly middle class-poor people just to be figureheads is not my idea of a 'class act'.

And it does not matter if the naive masses offer it to you or not - a true 'class act' would either refuse or give it ALL to charity.

If you disagree, then you are wrong.
 
DA60 said:
No, I judge people on what they do and say.

When he denounces his 'parents' for being stinking rich but still taking over $60 million from recession-mired British taxpayers just to be figureheads...then my respect for him will instantly grow.

Now I respect that he did a second tour in Afghanistan (the first tour was mandatory...no Royal male cannot serve in the military).

However, his supporting of stinking rich people (his family) taking $60 million dollars per year from mostly middle class-poor people just to be figureheads is not my idea of a 'class act'.

And it does not matter if the naive masses offer it to you or not - a true 'class act' would either refuse or give it ALL to charity.

If you disagree, then you are wrong.
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no his first tour was not mandatory in fact it was quite the opposite and as for his Charity work I already gave you a couple of examples of the Charities he either supports massively or has founded himself.
 
Higgins86 said:
no his first tour was not mandatory in fact it was quite the opposite and as for his Charity work I already gave you a couple of examples of the Charities he either supports massively or has founded himself.
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Don't try to confuse him with facts. He looks like an incredibly unhappy person who hates everything and everybody.
 
PeteEU said:
He will do that as soon as an American president goes to Paris and thanks them on his knees for the existence of the US.
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Three words: World War Two.
 
apdst said:
Did he go to the WW2 Memorial, get on his knees and and pay homage to the men that save his title for him?
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Those men are memorialized at Volgograd and in London.
 
Wiggen said:
Actually, by the time the U.S. entered the war, his title was already saved. The UK couldn't have defeated the Germans without U.S. help, but they were in no danger of losing the war by December of 1941. There was this little thing called the Eastern Front that eliminated that as any possibility. It's in all the history books. Try reading one.
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Um, have you ever heard of Dunkirk? :)
 
I have to say Prince Harry is a lot classier act than some of the posters on here who would criticize a man doing an honorable thing. I'd defy those criticizing Prince Harry to name one occasion in which he has been anything but genuine in the way he acts and his approach to and treatment of people he meets. He's a young man who's been in the public spotlight all his life, tragically lost his mother at a young age in a very public and some say murderous way, and has grown into a personable young man who, like his brother, feels a duty to his country and a responsibility to his station in life, a station he didn't seek but was born into. Just look at the offspring of Hollywood types and you can tell how disfunctional life in the spotlight can be for someone growing up.

There's no need to try and manufacture fault in this man. His mother taught him well, the short time he had with her, and we should honor that as well on this Mother's Day.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I have to say Prince Harry is a lot classier act than some of the posters on here who would criticize a man doing an honorable thing. I'd defy those criticizing Prince Harry to name one occasion in which he has been anything but genuine in the way he acts and his approach to and treatment of people he meets. He's a young man who's been in the public spotlight all his life, tragically lost his mother at a young age in a very public and some say murderous way, and has grown into a personable young man who, like his brother, feels a duty to his country and a responsibility to his station in life, a station he didn't seek but was born into. Just look at the offspring of Hollywood types and you can tell how disfunctional life in the spotlight can be for someone growing up.

There's no need to try and manufacture fault in this man. His mother taught him well, the short time he had with her, and we should honor that as well on this Mother's Day.
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I have a hard time showing respect for foreign leaders, after the way other nations have disrepected my country and our leaders. Sorry!
 
apdst said:
I have a hard time showing respect for foreign leaders, after the way other nations have disrepected my country and our leaders. Sorry!
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That's fine, but Prince Harry is not a leader of a country and to my knowledge he has never disrespected America nor any of your leaders. If you have knowledge of such, I'd be interested in seeing it.

That said, I don't believe Prince Harry is asking for your respect or anyone's respect. His visit to the US is entirely to show respect, to honor US service men and women and their families as well as in support of his mother's charity she started to remove landmines from areas of the world where they were left from past wars. How that engenders disrespect of him boggles the mind.
 
CanadaJohn said:
That's fine, but Prince Harry is not a leader of a country and to my knowledge he has never disrespected America nor any of your leaders. If you have knowledge of such, I'd be interested in seeing it.

That said, I don't believe Prince Harry is asking for your respect or anyone's respect. His visit to the US is entirely to show respect, to honor US service men and women and their families as well as in support of his mother's charity she started to remove landmines from areas of the world where they were left from past wars. How that engenders disrespect of him boggles the mind.
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Well, I didn't really criticize the cat, but I'm not going to kiss his ass, either.
 
apdst said:
Well, I didn't really criticize the cat, but I'm not going to kiss his ass, either.
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No one asked you to. Prince Harry is over here promoting British business, paying his respects to American servicemen and is attending the warrior games as he likes to help fundraise and bring attention to injured Vets. You complain a lot about people around the world disrespecting you but you have no problem disrespecting one of your own allies.
 
What on earth are you talking about? Dunkirk, which took place in the spring of 1940, allowed the Brits to recover most of their army from France. By December of 1941, the Brits were in no - repeat - no danger of defeat by Germany.

Dunkirk? You cannot possibly be that dumb.
 
apdst said:
I have a hard time showing respect for foreign leaders, after the way other nations have disrepected my country and our leaders. Sorry!
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How exactly has the UK disrespected our country? By sending their soldiers to Iraq and Afghanistan to be killed alongside our own? Or do you just hate all foreigners as a matter of principle?
 
apdst said:
Well, I didn't really criticize the cat, but I'm not going to kiss his ass, either.
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No?
apdst said:
Did he go to the WW2 Memorial, get on his knees and and pay homage to the men that save his title for him?
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I think Harry will be just fine and able to continue on his life without any asskissing from you.
 
Wiggen said:
How exactly has the UK disrespected our country? By sending their soldiers to Iraq and Afghanistan to be killed alongside our own? Or do you just hate all foreigners as a matter of principle?
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Its people like apdst that give Americans a bad name, fortunately im married to very sensible and reasonable American so I know better.
 
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