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IRS Admits targeting Conservative groups.

Isn't ThinkProgress still classified as tax exempt?
 
No doubt. And Moveon.Org Civic Action, as well. It's a target rich environment, so selecting the target du jour is a tricky thing unless there are some guide lines.

Guidelines...Yes my friend, I think you are on to something. Government employees would never operate without guidelines from higher ups. The most powerful government agency in the United States would certainly have guidelines to avoid "tricky" decisions, and to make sure the right people and orgainzations are "looked at".
 
Guidelines...Yes my friend, I think you are on to something. Government employees would never operate without guidelines from higher ups. The most powerful government agency in the United States would certainly have guidelines to avoid "tricky" decisions, and to make sure the right people and orgainzations are "looked at".
Key words trigger such inquiries. Words like "patriot" and stuff like that. Odd that a few IRS drones were able to define such a distinction all on their own. Such initiative should not go unrewarded. I think a federal suit is in order. Maybe quite a few.
 
The Liberals in the USA don't seem to recall the Nixon "Enemies list" and the uproar that caused.

It's a shame that their Moral Compass only points away from those in the Democrat Party.

On a daily basis this Chicago Machine Political Hack led gang of crooks is being exposed for the most corrupt administration in the history of the Republic.

Yesterday, it looked as if the members of the White House press corps had suddenly seen the light and were amazed at what it was shining on. I just saw the end of "Field of Dreams" again and it reminds me of the scene when the brother can suddenly see the ball players on the field.

Can these mind numbed stenographers now suddenly see that the Emperor has no clothes?
 
This one i will actually go along with the conservative groups on. Completely weaken the power of the administration to call out groups which inconvenience them for special attention by the IRS. Make the IRS much more fair towards everyone on a whole and remove the ability for an administration to "guide" their efforts. Personally i would like to see all charitable organizations, PACs, Super PACs, and religions have to open up their books for scrutiny, but if we just want to limit the administration from singling out groups it finds offensive I will support that too. This would actually be a great area to make a huge issue out of things.
 
The Liberals in the USA don't seem to recall the Nixon "Enemies list" and the uproar that caused.

It's a shame that their Moral Compass only points away from those in the Democrat Party.

On a daily basis this Chicago Machine Political Hack led gang of crooks is being exposed for the most corrupt administration in the history of the Republic.

Yesterday, it looked as if the members of the White House press corps had suddenly seen the light and were amazed at what it was shining on. I just saw the end of "Field of Dreams" again and it reminds me of the scene when the brother can suddenly see the ball players on the field.

Can these mind numbed stenographers now suddenly see that the Emperor has no clothes?

If a few low-level IRS employees in Cincinnati doing this is evidence of this grand liberal evil plot, how about Republicans being convicted of election fraud and voter suppression? Have you widely condemned the entire GOP as a result of those actions?
 
The IRS was wrong to target the tea party. They should’ve gone after all 501(c)4s.

Let’s be very clear: because the Internal Revenue Service holds so much private data, and because it can make people’s lives absolutely miserable, it is of paramount importance in our political system that it both is, and is perceived as, an apolitical entity. If it discriminated against tea party groups that attempted to register as 501(c)4 social welfare organizations, then that’s a grave offense, and it needs to be investigated thoroughly and dealt with severely...​
 
If a few low-level IRS employees in Cincinnati doing this is evidence of this grand liberal evil plot, how about Republicans being convicted of election fraud and voter suppression? Have you widely condemned the entire GOP as a result of those actions?


That view should challenge even your understanding of the world.

The low level employees were employed by a federal agency and worked in what was considered to be the pivot point of the presidential election, Ohio. This occurred during a political Campaign for the Presidency.

This is dramatically more serious and more closely linked to a corruption that has tentacles throughout the federal beauracracy than a second rate break in sponsored by the committee to re-elect.

Regarding the convictions due to election fraud, there always seems to be enough to go around, but the Democrats are the ones with real people on TV claiming to have voted six times. Weren't the Dems claiming that there had never been a successful prosecution of election fraud when the idea of photo ID's was being pushed so it was a complete non-issue?
 
That view should challenge even your understanding of the world.

The low level employees were employed by a federal agency and worked in what was considered to be the pivot point of the presidential election, Ohio. This occurred during a political Campaign for the Presidency.

This is dramatically more serious and more closely linked to a corruption that has tentacles throughout the federal beauracracy than a second rate break in sponsored by the committee to re-elect.

Regarding the convictions due to election fraud, there always seems to be enough to go around, but the Democrats are the ones with real people on TV claiming to have voted six times. Weren't the Dems claiming that there had never been a successful prosecution of election fraud when the idea of photo ID's was being pushed so it was a complete non-issue?

No, nobody ever claimed there had never been a successful prosecution of election fraud. That's a ridiculous idea, where did you get it?
 
No, nobody ever claimed there had never been a successful prosecution of election fraud. That's a ridiculous idea, where did you get it?



I got that idea from the Liberals on this board defending the notion that nobody should be required to prove they have the right to vote.

I thought we were talking about the employees of the Federal Government, employed by an agency of the executive branch in the state of Ohio Harassing voters in the swing state of Ohio during the last presidential campaign.

The corruption of this administration is awe inspiring.
 
I got that idea from the Liberals on this board defending the notion that nobody should be required to prove they have the right to vote.

I thought we were talking about the employees of the Federal Government, employed by an agency of the executive branch in the state of Ohio Harassing voters in the swing state of Ohio during the last presidential campaign.

The corruption of this administration is awe inspiring.

You asked the question, buddy. Don't get mad that someone answers.

You got that notion by inflating what people said. There's no way around this, literally not one person has ever claimed that there has never been a successful prosecution of election fraud. What people were saying is that actual voter fraud is very rare.

If you cannot tell the difference between "very rare" and "has never happened before," I don't know what to tell you.

A couple low-level IRS agents were inappropriately, and possibly illegally, targeting certain groups. IRS administration eventually discovered this and ordered them to stop.

If this is evidence of "this administration" being corrupt, is a Republican being convicted of election fraud evidence that the GOP is corrupt to an awe inspiring level?
 
You asked the question, buddy. Don't get mad that someone answers.

You got that notion by inflating what people said. There's no way around this, literally not one person has ever claimed that there has never been a successful prosecution of election fraud. What people were saying is that actual voter fraud is very rare.

If you cannot tell the difference between "very rare" and "has never happened before," I don't know what to tell you.

A couple low-level IRS agents were inappropriately, and possibly illegally, targeting certain groups. IRS administration eventually discovered this and ordered them to stop.

If this is evidence of "this administration" being corrupt, is a Republican being convicted of election fraud evidence that the GOP is corrupt to an awe inspiring level?


You seem to be dying to reveal the Republican who was convicted of Voter fraud, so please do so.

Under Nixon, it was the Committee to Re-Elect that did all the damage that eventually led to the White house.

This is very likely the very same kind of thing happening here. You just have to be impressed by the parallels.

The History Place - Impeachment: Richard Nixon

Article 1:
Section 1:
(1) Making or causing to be made false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employes of the United States.
Section 6:
(6) Endeavoring to misuse the Central Intelligence Agency, an agency of the United States.
Section 8:
(8) Making false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation has been conducted with respect to allegation of misconduct on the part of personnel of the Executive Branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-Election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct; or
Section 9:
(9) Endeavoring to cause prospective defendants, and individuals duly tried and convicted, to expect favored treatment and consideration in return for their silence or false testimony, or rewarding individuals for their silence or false testimony.


Article 2:
Section 1:
(1) He has, acting personally and through his subordinated and agents, endeavored to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, confidential information contained in income tax returns for purposes not authorized by law, and to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigation to be initiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.
Section 4:
(4) He has failed to take care that the laws were faithfully executed by failing to act when he knew or had reason to know that his close subordinates endeavored to impede and frustrate lawful inquiries by duly constituted executive; judicial and legislative entities concerning the unlawful entry into the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee, and the cover-up thereof, and concerning other unlawful activities including those relating to the confirmation of Richard Kleindienst as attorney general of the United States, the electronic surveillance of private citizens, the break-in into the office of Dr. Lewis Fielding, and the campaign financing practices of the Committee to Re-elect the President.

Article 3:
Article 3: Contempt of Congress.

In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, contrary to his oath faithfully to execute the office of the President of the United States, and to the best of his ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, had failed without lawful cause or excuse, to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives, on April 11, 1974, May 15, 1974, May 30, 1974, and June 24, 1974, and willfully disobeyed such subpoenas. The subpoenaed papers and things were deemed necessary by the Committee in order to resolve by direct evidence fundamental, factual questions relating to Presidential direction, knowledge or approval of actions demonstrated by other evidence to be substantial grounds for impeachment of the President. In refusing to produce these papers and things, Richard M. Nixon, substituting his judgement as to what materials were necessary for the inquiry, interposed the powers of the Presidency against the lawful subpoenas of the House of Representatives, thereby assuming to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the sole power of impeachment vested by Constitution in the House of Representatives.
 
Robocall: Schurick guilty of election fraud - baltimoresun.com

Guilty of election fraud via robocalls aimed at voter suppression. So the entire GOP must be complicit and corrupt!


You are making charges that you seem to think are somehow linked to what I've said.

Those charges are not.

Were the robo-calls more egregious than the intimidation squads wielding bats at the polls or the woman who boasted of voting 6 times in the same election?
 
You are making charges that you seem to think are somehow linked to what I've said.

Those charges are not.

Were the robo-calls more egregious than the intimidation squads wielding bats at the polls or the woman who boasted of voting 6 times in the same election?

Well, yes, they were more egregious because they affected a much larger group of people.

But that's not the point either. The point is that the actions of a few aren't inherently damning to the entire demographic you choose to ascribe them to. A couple of those IRS agents may have been Christians, but nobody seems to be suggesting that Christians are behind some massive conspiracy.
 
Well, yes, they were more egregious because they affected a much larger group of people.

But that's not the point either. The point is that the actions of a few aren't inherently damning to the entire demographic you choose to ascribe them to. A couple of those IRS agents may have been Christians, but nobody seems to be suggesting that Christians are behind some massive conspiracy.



It requires the highest degree of naiveté to accept that the practice condoned in Cincy for about a year was not ignored by design.
 
It requires the highest degree of naiveté to accept that the practice condoned in Cincy for about a year was not ignored by design.

Someone higher probably knew. Does this condemn all Democrats/liberals?

Because as I've posted before, some Republicans have been convicted of voter suppression in recent years. If this IRS scandal condemns all Democrats, then surely all Republicans are guilty of voter suppression. Right?
 
Someone higher probably knew. Does this condemn all Democrats/liberals?

Because as I've posted before, some Republicans have been convicted of voter suppression in recent years. If this IRS scandal condemns all Democrats, then surely all Republicans are guilty of voter suppression. Right?




I'm not wondering about ALL Democrats. Just those in the most corrupt administration in the history of the Republic. My Brother in Law happens to be Democrat and I'd trust him with my life.

Every couple days there's a new scandal surfacing. Obama has striven mightily to aggravate two groups: those who investigate things for a living and those who buy printing ink by the barrel.

An interesting approach in politics. Hasn't really been employed since Nixon.

When it becomes crystal clear that you are either testifying before Congress or getting thrown under the bus as is the case right now, you have to wonder who will be left not turning states evidence.

The IRS is going to have hire even more auditors.
 
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