that seems about as useless as the wooden gun from In the Line of Fire.
Considering the cost of a printer, the material to make it and the possibility of personal injury in firing this thing, it's just easier and cheaper to go buy a real firearm.
3D printing has a long way to go before we're going to get reliable, safe 3D printed guns. The Democrats are seriously overreacting to this thing.
Wonder if the file has a disclaimer about risk of personal injury from firing the weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if more people end up hurting themselves when the firearm malfunctions then people injured by intentional usage.
Zip guns have been around for decades but that's not really the point of the thread. IMO, it won't be that long - maybe a decade assuming no government interference - before "real" guns (and lots of other things) can be printed like this.its amazing that people freak out about it,yet so few realize criminals have made weapons for years,with basic machining tools and supplies available at home depot,capable of firing much more than one shot and little fear of it blowing up.heack anyone can walk into home depot and buy a decent pipe good enough to fire a 12 guage shell,as well as a makeshift stock and forearm and a crude firing pin mechanism.
when i was in california,one of the big things for criminals was counterfeit ak-47's.they were made from things like shovels,old pipes,sheet metal from discarded washers dryers etc.they were ugly,and horribly innacurate,but they fire full auto,could last through several magazines,and when they failed they could be tossed in a dumpster with no way of tracing back to anyone unless they left fingerprints.people tend to ignore the fact that firearms are not rocket science,almost anyone can crudely make a firearm solong as they use the proper strencgth and thickness metal.
Zip guns have been around for decades but that's not really the point of the thread. IMO, it won't be that long - maybe a decade assuming no government interference - before "real" guns (and lots of other things) can be printed like this.
The, "free speech", part.
The banned site wasn't giving away guns, they were giving away information that can be used to print a gun.
In a decade or so when the first AK-47 comes out of a 3D printer for a third the price (or less) will you still feel the same?but real guns can already be made,much much cheaper,more reliable,and more accurate,yet no effort is made to stop it,yet 3d printers have made many headlines,yet it cant even do what people have been doing in their own homes for over a hundred years.if someone wanted to stop illegal gun sales or prevent criminals from having guns,3d printers would be the last thing to focus on,it would be better spent trying to eliminate demand for illegal guns,as demand always creates supply as seen in the war on drugs,second would be to attack illegal gun manufacturors,not to attack what they use tomake them,as most of the time they are commonly used materials and machines used by normal law abiding citizens.
In a decade or so when the first AK-47 comes out of a 3D printer for a tenth the price will you still feel the same?
Make, what? An AK-47 or equivalent?i doubt that,gang bangers can currently make them and sell them for less than 100 bucks a piece with scrap metal,i doubt 3dprinters in the next 100 years can beat that price,especially considering their current reliable is such crap even if they got so cheap they could make one for 4 dollars,no one would want one because how low their life is,hell with one shot life i could just buy a musket and do the same.
Or perferated aluminum with high temp rubber in between most connections. Wait... not perforated aluminum. Like porous or somethings. Lots of holes drilled or forged through it for cooldown yet as strong as possible with the maximum allowed of cooldown. Maybe even thin fins sticking out in between to make more surface area so breezes cool it down. Seems easier just to go for a bulky high str material though.Make, what? An AK-47 or equivalent?
I wasn't talking about a one shot. I said "AK-47" and meant it - a real, live, fully-functional AK-47 and maybe lighter since I suspect a titanium alloy will be used instead of steel to make up for the (possibly) lower the structural strength (if any) from the printing process.
Aluminum is weaker than steel, which in turn is usually weaker than titanium alloys.Or perferated aluminum with high temp rubber in between most connections. Wait... not perforated aluminum. Like porous or somethings. Lots of holes drilled or forged through it for cooldown yet as strong as possible with the maximum allowed of cooldown. Maybe even thin fins sticking out in between to make more surface area so breezes cool it down. Seems easier just to go for a bulky high str material though.
Aluminum is weaker than steel, which in turn is usually weaker than titanium alloys.
Make, what? An AK-47 or equivalent?
I wasn't talking about a one shot. I said "AK-47" and meant it - a real, live, fully-functional AK-47 and maybe lighter since I suspect a titanium alloy will be used instead of steel to make up for the (possibly) lower the structural strength (if any) from the printing process.
Considering how far this technology has gone in the last tens years do you still believe what you're saying will hold true in another ten years?no real printting process today or anytime in the forseeable future can handle consistent shots of a firearm.they use steel and bronze powder for metal printing now,and its very weak,its mostly used for making small car parts like old stereo knobs,and is extremely fragile.titanium would require a good fusion metal,and using a fusion metal would be still weaker than steel.
plus titanium is very expensive,for the cost of the titanium power to equal less strength than forged steel,you could still make one old fashioned quicker and cheaper on basic machining tools.
Considering how far this technology has gone in the last tens years do you still believe what you're saying will hold true in another ten years?
It's not viable for mass produced volumes, yet, but that doesn't stop it from being very beneficial on a piece by piece basis, especially in homes and small business.it still holds limited functionality,since it holds no ability to make stong metals needed,and if it had been deemed viable,both gun and car manufacturors would have already been dumping billions into its further developement.
they are great for making prototype parts,or making doorknobs and fancy cabinet handles,but in terms of replacing real machinery,its not too far a cry from jb weld in terms of strength.
It's not viable for mass produced volumes, yet, but that doesn't stop it from being very beneficial on a piece by piece basis, especially in homes and small business.
Chrysler had one of the first 3D printers when it built it's technology center. It helped shorten the design process by two years because engineers could print out the part and use it on the prototype for fitment and access without having to order it from the machine shop, which took much longer than the 3D printer. Ancient technology at this point, though. I'm sure they've replaced the original.
The idea of structural strength has been brought up before in this thread but I haven't seen a definitive answer on that. Do you have links?
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Looks like your not gonna be able to get that file to make your own gun from this guy anymore.. [/FONT][/COLOR]
I don't have a printer.Good thing I already downloaded it. Now all it takes is for somebody, anybody, to upload it to a foreign site. Then there's **** they can do about it. This isn't going away.
Anybody need a copy?
Not even an InkJet? Wow! :shock:I don't have a printer.
Pro plastic-gun folks keep saying I shouldn't factor the cost of the printer in the cost of the gun, but these same people can't explain how a gun is going to jump out of the CAD file without a printer.
Link to where these 3D plastic guns can be printed from an ink jet.Not even an InkJet? Wow! :shock:
I don't have a printer.
Pro plastic-gun folks keep saying I shouldn't factor the cost of the printer in the cost of the gun, but these same people can't explain how a gun is going to jump out of the CAD file without a printer.
So you do have an InkJet? What, no pencils handy? I mean, that was your reason to reject the idea of 3D home printers, wasn't it, because you could do it cheaper the old fashioned way?Link to where these 3D plastic guns can be printed from an ink jet.