• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Cumulus: Nearly All Top Advertisers Have 'Exclude Rush Limbaugh' Orders

apdst said:
"Literally"? Well, who knows? However, the notion that violence should be used to suppress free speech speaks volumes. And yes, that's what was suggested.
Click to expand...

Kinda like when you use the phrase "son of a bitch," you mean the person is literally the male offspring of a female dog.

Or when Sarah Palin put crosshairs on a map, she must have been suggesting violence. I suspect you defended that particular action.
 
Deuce said:
Kinda like when you use the phrase "son of a bitch," you mean the person is literally the male offspring of a female dog.

Or when Sarah Palin put crosshairs on a map, she must have been suggesting violence. I suspect you defended that particular action.
Click to expand...

I recall you people getting your panties in a knot over it, too.
 
Verax said:
Cumulus: Nearly All Top Advertisers Have 'Exclude Rush Limbaugh' Orders

I really hope this is the beginning of the end for Rush. I also really hope this is a signal that the country is sick and tired of political garbage for entertainment and is more interested in real discussion.
Click to expand...

"Real discussion" to ALL progressives and neo-cons is; "see it my way or no way at all."

As a libertarian I cannot hold a conversation with authoritarians, nor do I want to.

However as a libertarian, I believe Rush has every goddamn right to speak his mind - authoritarian progressives don't think so, because --- well they're authoritarian..
 
Hatuey said:
No, it really isn't. Specific demographics are relevant just as specific ad revenue is important.



You're either lying or you're uninformed, which is it?

IT'S NOT JUST GLENN BECK: FOX News Has Lost 21% Of Its Audience This Year - Business Insider



As far as your NRA comment, what does that mean? I called Glenn Beck's firing from FOX months before it happened and when he still had a large audience based solely on advertiser patterns.
Click to expand...

Becks still on radio were he started if you don't believe me check out KNZR 99.7 FM out of Bakersfield. They have a website KNZR.com that has live streaming. Just press the live stream button. He's on 6-9 am M-F. He has more listeners than the NRA has members, like I said. 7+ million. Those are the kind of numbers that Cable TV News would kill for. CNN FOX and MSNBC don't even come close. Total viewership of ALL the major cable news networks COMBINED is a bit over 2 million. Seriously FOX was a SIDE gig for Beck. I mean really, all FOX was trying to do was get BECKS listeners to view them. His NORMAL audience outstrips FOXES best audiences by a factor of seven. So really the question is, who fired whom? I am willing to bet FOX didn't fire Beck, Beck fired Fox. Beck makes his money from radio, always has.

Rush had a TV show for 4 years way back when, 1992-1996 thereabouts, before most of the cable news networks existed. He also sold some very nice ties too. :)
 
Verax said:
I don't really listen to anyone in particular on a regular basis, conservative or otherwise. However I have enjoyed considering the views of Ron Paul, Andrew Napolitano, Bill O ' Reilly (in the beginning before he became talking points Fox schill ), Milton Friedman, John Huntsman. It isn't necessarily their views either, its the way they present it, straight talk without the propaganda nonsense. There is garbage on both sides, especially on tv, however Rush is one of the worst imo, and I hope to see him taken down a peg, much like Glenn Beck.
Click to expand...

Why does anyone think Beck went away? He has 7 MILLION listeners. That's a lot. The news networks are lucky to crack a million.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Becks still on radio were he started if you don't believe me check out KNZR 99.7 FM out of Bakersfield. They have a website KNZR.com that has live streaming. Just press the live stream button. He's on 6-9 am M-F. He has more listeners than the NRA has members, like I said. 7+ million. Those are the kind of numbers that Cable TV News would kill for. CNN FOX and MSNBC don't even come close. Total viewership of ALL the major cable news networks COMBINED is a bit over 2 million. Seriously FOX was a SIDE gig for Beck. I mean really, all FOX was trying to do was get BECKS listeners to view them. His NORMAL audience outstrips FOXES best audiences by a factor of seven. So really the question is, who fired whom? I am willing to bet FOX didn't fire Beck, Beck fired Fox. Beck makes his money from radio, always has.

Rush had a TV show for 4 years way back when, 1992-1996 thereabouts, before most of the cable news networks existed. He also sold some very nice ties too. :)
Click to expand...

Being on the radio =/= 50 million dollar contract with FOX, losing 500,000 viewers, losing major advertisers and contracting Nazi tourrette's.
 
Hatuey said:
Being on the radio =/= 50 million dollar contract with FOX, losing 500,000 viewers, losing major advertisers and contracting Nazi tourrette's.
Click to expand...

I guess you didn't get the point. That's not his real gig and NEVER was. He's a radio guy, radio and TV are two different mediums. He brought exposer for FOX and they couldn't keep it for whatever reason. Beck initially brought the numbers they lost in the first place. Major advertising really doesn't work with those type of personalities regardless of their views. Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh and the rest are all too controversial, you would think the majors would have learned their lesson by now. They are lured by the big numbers these guys put up. Advertising with these type personalities requires matching product and company types to audience types. General advertising just doesn't work as well with what are essentially niche programs.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Why does anyone think Beck went away? He has 7 MILLION listeners. That's a lot. The news networks are lucky to crack a million.
Click to expand...

He went away from television. As ridiculous as tv already is he somehow went too far and a large portion of his audience gave him a second look and walked away. I imagine Jon Stewart played a decent role in that. AM radio is a lost cause, I can turn it on in my car in any state and hear something so stupid I lose control and end up in the ditch. Tv still has a shred of credibility and professionalism, if not much, we don't need to lose what little is left. That's not to say Beck was the worst program on tv, he was one of the worst that pretended to be a real show about serious subject matter, and that is just scary.
 
Verax said:
He went away from television. As ridiculous as tv already is he somehow went too far and a large portion of his audience gave him a second look and walked away. I imagine Jon Stewart played a decent role in that. AM radio is a lost cause, I can turn it on in my car in any state and hear something so stupid I lose control and end up in the ditch. Tv still has a shred of credibility and professionalism, if not much, we don't need to lose what little is left. That's not to say Beck was the worst program on tv, he was one of the worst that pretended to be a real show about serious subject matter, and that is just scary.
Click to expand...

Again I ask how is it he went away? He still has 7 million people listening to him. That's several times more than the COMBINED viewership of ALL the news networks. I'd say he has a significant audience. More than some of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington DC.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Again I ask how is it he went away? He still has 7 million people listening to him. That's several times more than the COMBINED viewership of ALL the news networks. I'd say he has a significant audience. More than some of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington DC.
Click to expand...

He went away from tv, he was knocked down a peg in terms of prestige. Radio is largely a wasteland of garbage. To see him or Rush neutered in any way is a good thing.
 
Verax said:
He went away from tv, he was knocked down a peg in terms of prestige. Radio is largely a wasteland of garbage. To see him or Rush neutered in any way is a good thing.
Click to expand...

Ok if you say so. The news networks would kill for Glen Becks numbers, let alone Rushes.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Ok if you say so. The news networks would kill for Glen Becks numbers, let alone Rushes.
Click to expand...
Why did Beck go away from TV....do you know?
 
Moot said:
Why did Beck go away from TV....do you know?
Click to expand...

I think that it was Beck chafing under FOX and his radio numbers weren't really translating as well as the FOX news network as well as FOX would have liked. Though for his timeslot I think he was number one from when he started till he left, I think the audience gain wasn't big enough to help off set the ad revenue losses was probably the main reason he and FOX parted.

He's starting his own news network from what I gather now. Maybe he will be back soon. Who knows. I was a big fan of his when he first started, he had really funny irreverent show which is what I liked about him. Then he turned into religious super patriot. For me anyhow not so much anymore, I can only tolerate small doses now.

I listen to Rush, he hasn't changed his style in 20 years, I have been listening to him since 1992. I most enjoy his show when he talks about football, golf, cigars, his cats, computers and stuff. He's really at his best though when he does stuff like Dans bake sale, or talking to all the white and blue collar people who lost their jobs couldn't find one and ended up working for themselves, or his CPAC style speeches and riffs. He can be really inspiring when he wants to be.
 
I wonder if all the fair minded liberals here being happy about this situation with Rush, would agree this need to happen to Randi Rhodes, and other over the top liberal/progressive pundits?
 
Moot said:
Why did Beck go away from TV....do you know?
Click to expand...

His ratings had a significant, prolonged slump and Fox decided to pull the plug.
 
Verax said:
His ratings had a significant, prolonged slump and Fox decided to pull the plug.
Click to expand...
Was Becks ratings worse than Hannity and O'Reilly or Greta Van Susterns? I thought he was FoxNews #1 bread winner but that he was leaving for health reasons. So now he's got his own TV station, Blaze TV or GBTV or something? I'll say this for him, he never seems to give up.
 
Moot said:
Was Becks ratings worse than Hannity and O'Reilly or Greta Van Susterns? I thought he was FoxNews #1 bread winner but that he was leaving for health reasons. So now he's got his own TV station, Blaze TV or GBTV or something? I'll say this for him, he never seems to give up.
Click to expand...
My understanding was he left Fox to do GBTV. I don't think it matters what the reason is, he is still a success...
 
lizzie said:
So much for the concept of free speech.
Click to expand...

I never get this. So when others practice their right to free speech in a way you don't agree with that is somehow a violation of free speech? Just as Rush Limbaugh can say what he wants, advertisers can choose not to do business with him because of what he says and does. That is freedom. What would you do? Force them to do business with him?
 
Lord of Planar said:
I wonder if all the fair minded liberals here being happy about this situation with Rush, would agree this need to happen to Randi Rhodes, and other over the top liberal/progressive pundits?
Click to expand...

Feel free to exercise your economic freedom regarding those folks' advertisers.
 
CriticalThought said:
I never get this. So when others practice their right to free speech in a way you don't agree with that is somehow a violation of free speech? Just as Rush Limbaugh can say what he wants, advertisers can choose not to do business with him because of what he says and does. That is freedom. What would you do? Force them to do business with him?
Click to expand...

So, you would go along with running Rush out of town on a rail; support violence against those you disagree with; we have the right to inact violence against the speech we don't like?
 
apdst said:
So, you would go along with running Rush out of town on a rail; support violence against those you disagree with; we have the right to inact violence against the speech we don't like?
Click to expand...

Hahahah still taking it literally. Because you've never used phrases regarding anything liberal that might indicate violence if read literally, right? ;)
 
apdst said:
So, you would go along with running Rush out of town on a rail; support violence against those you disagree with; we have the right to inact violence against the speech we don't like?
Click to expand...

What violence? Are you in hyperbole land?
 
CriticalThought said:
What violence? Are you in hyperbole land?
Click to expand...

So, when someone says that Obama should be lynched; that's just hyperbole, too? Or, are you one of the first ones to start crying, "racism!"?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom