Christie: Obama ‘Has Kept Every Promise He’s Made’ On Sandy Relief

shrubnose · May 3, 2013

rocket88 said:
I disagree, there's plenty of talented people in the GOP who would beat Hillary easily.

Not according to any current polls.

zimmer · May 4, 2013

shrubnose said:
The GOP doesn't have anyone who could beat Hillary Clinton.

"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

Time will tell... but the Family has issues with honesty. The nation knows that. But... she does have a vagina going for her. Perhaps that's the D's ticket this time.

shrubnose · May 4, 2013

zimmer said:
Time will tell... but the Family has issues with honesty. The nation knows that. But... she does have a vagina going for her. Perhaps that's the D's ticket this time.

Why would any human being make such a sick comment?

Does anyone have any ideas? Maybe I should have flagged that comment, but I'm a big 1st Amendment supporter.

People who 'think' like zimmer are a big part of the reason why the GOP lost last November and will continue to lose in the future until it is reduced to a minor, regional, party.

Don't think so?

Wait and see.

No one can stop time and/or change.

"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

marywollstonecraft · May 4, 2013

pbrauer said:
LOL This makes Christie's chances of being elected president in 2016 greater, unfortunately for him it decreases his chances of being nominated by the Republican Party.

Christie: Obama 'Has Kept Every Promise He's Made' On Sandy Relief | TPM LiveWire

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) said Monday that despite the criticism he's taken from some on the right for his embrace of President Barack Obama following Superstorm Sandy, the popular Republican wouldn't have done anything differently.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on the six-month anniversary of Sandy, Christie was asked by host Joe Scarborough if he regrets his bipartisan response to the storm, which battered the Northeast a week before last year's election.

"No. No," the normally outspoken Christie said.

Christie then elaborated, saying he wasn't concerned about the presidential election in the immediate aftermath of Sandy.

"I say the same thing to all my critics, no matter where they are on the spectrum, that is I've got a job to do. And the fact is there was nothing else that ever crossed my mind in the days after," Christie said. "You wake up on Tuesday, October 30th, 7 million of your 8.8 million citizens out of power, there's not a school opened, not a water treatment or waste water treatment plant is operational. Fifty-one gas stations in the whole state are open. You're not sitting there worrying about presidential politics, Joe."

Christie said that while he was a supporter of 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney — and disagrees with Obama virtually across the board — he has to tip his hat to the President's response to Sandy.

(snip)

Christie sounds like he lets honesty and integrity get in the way of being partisan.

It used to work in politics, but I think it might be considered a bit old fashioned now.

shrubnose · May 4, 2013

marywollstonecraft said:
Christie sounds like he lets honesty and integrity get in the way of being partisan.

It used to work in politics, but I think it might be considered a bit old fashioned now.

Unfortunately there are too many people on both sides of the the aisle who put their party ahead of their country, state, and etc.

I don't know that we'll ever see the end of that kind of attitude.

But I'll never stop hoping.

jonny5 · May 4, 2013

AGENT J said:
you are welcome to have that opinion, its unrealistic but you are welcome to have it.

Then why does my state have 11bn in its paying capacity just for hurricanes?

Visbek · May 4, 2013

jonny5 said:
Then why does my state have 11bn in its paying capacity just for hurricanes?

Florida gets hit by a hurricane nearly every year. Between 1851 and 2009, Florida was hit by 114 hurricanes, including 44 Cat1's. New Jersey was hit by a total of 2 hurricanes (both Cat1).

NJ and NY haven't seen a hurricane like Sandy in almost 100 years. It doesn't make sense for NJ to set aside $20 billion for those kinds of events.

By the way, Florida's hurricane fund is currently short by $12.5 billion, and considering, wait for it... a federally funded backstop. (Florida Looks to Restructure Its Hurricane Fund; Federal Option Proposed) The other solution is to reduce -- oh, sorry, "right-size" -- the catastrophe fund. I don't think increasing taxes is on the table.

Not to mention that Gov Scott did try to get a "mere" $29 million in federal funds for Isaac. FEMA declined, saying Florida could handle the costs on its own. Unsurprisingly, Florida pols protested.

apdst · May 4, 2013

pbrauer said:
LOL This makes Christie's chances of being elected president in 2016 greater, unfortunately for him it decreases his chances of being nominated by the Republican Party.

Christie: Obama 'Has Kept Every Promise He's Made' On Sandy Relief | TPM LiveWire

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) said Monday that despite the criticism he's taken from some on the right for his embrace of President Barack Obama following Superstorm Sandy, the popular Republican wouldn't have done anything differently.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on the six-month anniversary of Sandy, Christie was asked by host Joe Scarborough if he regrets his bipartisan response to the storm, which battered the Northeast a week before last year's election.

"No. No," the normally outspoken Christie said.

Christie then elaborated, saying he wasn't concerned about the presidential election in the immediate aftermath of Sandy.

"I say the same thing to all my critics, no matter where they are on the spectrum, that is I've got a job to do. And the fact is there was nothing else that ever crossed my mind in the days after," Christie said. "You wake up on Tuesday, October 30th, 7 million of your 8.8 million citizens out of power, there's not a school opened, not a water treatment or waste water treatment plant is operational. Fifty-one gas stations in the whole state are open. You're not sitting there worrying about presidential politics, Joe."

Christie said that while he was a supporter of 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney — and disagrees with Obama virtually across the board — he has to tip his hat to the President's response to Sandy.

(snip)

Christie get nominated by the Dems? Never happen!

Perotista · May 4, 2013

shrubnose said:
Not according to any current polls.

Current polls are meaningless. I do not believe either Biden or Hillery will be the Democrats nominee for 2016. I would look for new faces for both parties.

pbrauer · May 4, 2013

apdst said:
Christie get nominated by the Dems? Never happen!

What I meant was Christie would have a good chance of winning if he was nominated by the Republicans, but probably won't be because he got long with Obama so well.

polgara · May 4, 2013

Perotista said:
Current polls are meaningless. I do not believe either Biden or Hillery will be the Democrats nominee for 2016. I would look for new faces for both parties.

I'm going to put you on the spot here, and ask if you see any "likelies" this early out? On both sides.... :doh:

Smeagol · May 4, 2013

pbrauer said:
LOL This makes Christie's chances of being elected president in 2016 greater, unfortunately for him it decreases his chances of being nominated by the Republican Party.

Christie: Obama 'Has Kept Every Promise He's Made' On Sandy Relief | TPM LiveWire

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) said Monday that despite the criticism he's taken from some on the right for his embrace of President Barack Obama following Superstorm Sandy, the popular Republican wouldn't have done anything differently.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on the six-month anniversary of Sandy, Christie was asked by host Joe Scarborough if he regrets his bipartisan response to the storm, which battered the Northeast a week before last year's election.

"No. No," the normally outspoken Christie said.

Christie then elaborated, saying he wasn't concerned about the presidential election in the immediate aftermath of Sandy.

"I say the same thing to all my critics, no matter where they are on the spectrum, that is I've got a job to do. And the fact is there was nothing else that ever crossed my mind in the days after," Christie said. "You wake up on Tuesday, October 30th, 7 million of your 8.8 million citizens out of power, there's not a school opened, not a water treatment or waste water treatment plant is operational. Fifty-one gas stations in the whole state are open. You're not sitting there worrying about presidential politics, Joe."

Christie said that while he was a supporter of 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney — and disagrees with Obama virtually across the board — he has to tip his hat to the President's response to Sandy.

(snip)

Christie already has my support for the GOP primaries next go 'round. He represents the cultural changed needed in our party where all too much republican patriotism has meant oppose the president on everything including things republicans first came up with even if it harms America. I might even campaign for him.

Smeagol · May 4, 2013

joko104 said:
Christie has openly condemned 100% of all Republican members of Congress, after giving Romney's keynote nominating speech ended up boycotting Romney's campaign events, and gave an unqualified endorsement of Obama as president instead.

Christie has no chance of obtaining the Republican nomination, which is reasonable given his open declaration of hatred of all Republican officials and his ongoing campaigning for Obama. For half a year, Christie has been a militant supporter of Democrats and bitter attacker of Republicans. There certainly are reasons for Democrats to love him, but in general only enemies love a backstabber.

Maybe it's because he's intellectually honest.

apdst · May 4, 2013

pbrauer said:
What I meant was Christie would have a good chance of winning if he was nominated by the Republicans, but probably won't be because he got long with Obama so well.

I think you hold Obama is way too much regard...LOL!!!

Perotista · May 4, 2013

polgara said:
I'm going to put you on the spot here, and ask if you see any "likelies" this early out? On both sides.... :doh:

No, too far out. How about a dream match up of a couple of folks next door to you, Ex governor Daniels vs. Evan Byah. Now if the GOP really wants to get bold, Susan Martinez, Governor of NM, Hispanic and a Woman and then pick Rubio or some one from Florida as VP. The republicans can't win without taking Florida. Remember what I said about last years election being decided in the East and how I would go to bed early.

I think the Dems will stay with someone from the northeast, Cumo perhaps, if not perhaps Stabenow if she is interested. I wouldn't be surprised if Higgenlooper the Governor of CO could be a possibility. But way too far out now and all this is is a guessing game of guesses. But if the dream match up occurred, my dread match up Daniels vs. Byah, the country couldn't lose.

polgara · May 4, 2013

Perotista said:
No, too far out. How about a dream match up of a couple of folks next door to you, Ex governor Daniels vs. Evan Byah. Now if the GOP really wants to get bold, Susan Martinez, Governor of NM, Hispanic and a Woman and then pick Rubio or some one from Florida as VP. The republicans can't win without taking Florida. Remember what I said about last years election being decided in the East and how I would go to bed early.

I think the Dems will stay with someone from the northeast, Cumo perhaps, if not perhaps Stabenow if she is interested. I wouldn't be surprised if Higgenlooper the Governor of CO could be a possibility. But way too far out now and all this is is a guessing game of guesses. But if the dream match up occurred, my dread match up Daniels vs. Byah, the country couldn't lose.

Interesting. And thought provoking. :thanks:

shrubnose · May 5, 2013

Perotista said:
Current polls are meaningless. I do not believe either Biden or Hillery will be the Democrats nominee for 2016. I would look for new faces for both parties.

Wouldn't surprise me.

There are a lot of good people out there.

shrubnose · May 5, 2013

Smeagol said:
Christie already has my support for the GOP primaries next go 'round. He represents the cultural changed needed in our party where all too much republican patriotism has meant oppose the president on everything including things republicans first came up with even if it harms America. I might even campaign for him.

Christie is one of the Republicans that I would think about voting for.

Mainly because he has shown himself to be an independent thinker.

jonny5 · May 5, 2013

Visbek said:
Florida gets hit by a hurricane nearly every year. Between 1851 and 2009, Florida was hit by 114 hurricanes, including 44 Cat1's. New Jersey was hit by a total of 2 hurricanes (both Cat1).

NJ and NY haven't seen a hurricane like Sandy in almost 100 years. It doesn't make sense for NJ to set aside $20 billion for those kinds of events.

By the way, Florida's hurricane fund is currently short by $12.5 billion, and considering, wait for it... a federally funded backstop. (Florida Looks to Restructure Its Hurricane Fund; Federal Option Proposed) The other solution is to reduce -- oh, sorry, "right-size" -- the catastrophe fund. I don't think increasing taxes is on the table.

Not to mention that Gov Scott did try to get a "mere" $29 million in federal funds for Isaac. FEMA declined, saying Florida could handle the costs on its own. Unsurprisingly, Florida pols protested.

Which has nothing to do with your comments that its unrealistic to put billions away for disaster aid. Florida has. And so can NJ. They produce 450bn worth of products a year. Surely if they care about recovering from disasters they can put aside some of it.

Smeagol · May 5, 2013

shrubnose said:
Christie is one of the Republicans that I would think about voting for.

Mainly because he has shown himself to be an independent thinker.

One thing (but not the only thing) I find disturbing about the current GOP culture is this group-think mindset. We have to let the team set the agenda and anyone who disagrees with any one it is a RINO, which is hybrid of a traitor and an idiot. And who are these elitists who get to think on behalf on the rest of us? It's not even the elected officials, they don't have enough clout. It's mostly the right-wing media pundits who our elected officials are afraid of. Limbaugh, Fox News, Palin, Drudge, bloggers, and maybe a handful of elected officials get to be the thinkers of the GOP. The rest of us have to agree 100% or get shamed with the status of RINO. Then they still expect our loyal votes on Election Day but because I'm a traitor and an idiot, I sure hope they aren't holding their breath.

AGENT J · May 5, 2013

jonny5 said:
Then why does my state have 11bn in its paying capacity just for hurricanes?

that is YOUR state and how much of that was done just by YOUR STATE alone and didnt come from else where do to the idea that FLORIDA is a state COMMONLY hit with large hurricanes.

an example on a much smaller level what happens when it snows a lot in southern state that barely sees snow? typical they shut down the state and declare emergencies. Why because they dont budget for it with snow and salt trucks and people to work them etc etc but guess what, they do in PA because its common, SHould i complain that every state should be prepared for 1 foot of snow? no because its illogical and unrealistic for every state to be 100% prepared for every disaster that might happen. WHere would all the money come from for EVERY state and what would have to get cut because of it LOL

like i said you are free to have your unrealistic opinion.

shrubnose · May 5, 2013

AGENT J said:
like i said you are free to have your unrealistic opinion.

One of the great things about being a citizen of the USA is that all of us (The wacky and the sane.) are free, not only to have unrealistic opinions, but to express them.

However, none of the rest of us are obligated to waste any of our time listening to those wacky (Or sane.) opinions when we have better things to do.

"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

jonny5 · May 5, 2013

AGENT J said:
that is YOUR state and how much of that was done just by YOUR STATE alone and didnt come from else where do to the idea that FLORIDA is a state COMMONLY hit with large hurricanes.

an example on a much smaller level what happens when it snows a lot in southern state that barely sees snow? typical they shut down the state and declare emergencies. Why because they dont budget for it with snow and salt trucks and people to work them etc etc but guess what, they do in PA because its common, SHould i complain that every state should be prepared for 1 foot of snow? no because its illogical and unrealistic for every state to be 100% prepared for every disaster that might happen. WHere would all the money come from for EVERY state and what would have to get cut because of it LOL

like i said you are free to have your unrealistic opinion.

I think you should complain about whatever you want. So long as you don't go begging to me when you aren't prepared. Just like Chrisite shouldn't go begging to others when his state isn't prepared.

Visbek · May 5, 2013

jonny5 said:
Which has nothing to do with your comments that its unrealistic to put billions away for disaster aid....

It's entirely relevant. Since:
1) NJ's damage is about double that of Florida's Catastrophic Fund.
2) NJ never gets hit by storms like this.
3) NJ's constitution basically ties the legislature's hands.
4) Slapping NJ with a big fat multiyear tax, after getting slammed by a massive hurricane, is kicking a man when he's down.

Florida has.

Florida HASN'T. They're short $12.5 billion, or about 43%. Their solution is to either go to the feds, or reduce the fund.

And again, they tried to get $29 million from the feds. Not exactly an indication that they're independent.

AGENT J · May 5, 2013

jonny5 said:
I think you should complain about whatever you want. So long as you don't go begging to me when you aren't prepared. Just like Chrisite shouldn't go begging to others when his state isn't prepared.

lol begging?
so you are just abandoning your first argument ok :shrug:

Christie: Obama ‘Has Kept Every Promise He’s Made’ On Sandy Relief

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