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President Obama Honors Those Lost and Injured in West, Texas Explosion

sawyerloggingon said:
IMO means in my opinion.
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I don't think people are allowed to have opinions anymore.

If somebody else didn't think of it first, then people don't want to see it posted on a board like this.
 
DA60 said:
I question his motives.

It cost millions of dollars to fly him and his massive entourage anywhere.

Just for Air Force One alone is at least a million for Washington to Texas and back.

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My guess is it cost U.S. taxpayers at least a couple of million for the trip.

Instead of showing up for the funeral, why not give that money to the families of the victims?

And I don't care that 'the money is in the budget'.

He is the POTUS - if he asked Congress to divert that money saved to those West families...which politician would dare say no?

Zero.


Now, if he travelled on a small plane with a minimal entourage...that would be different.

But, to my knowledge, he didn't.


And why are these deaths more worth his time then the hundreds of American's he sent to their deaths in Afghanistan?

Does he go to every funeral/wake/rememberence for them?


This was political (imo)...pure and simple.


Btw - I am neither a Dem or a Rep.

If this was 6 years ago and Bush had done the same sort of thing, I would probably say the same sort of thing.
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I doubt you'll ever see any president flying in a single engine Cesna. Tons of security is alway required, no matter which president. What did Obama have to gain from this trip? The funny thing is I saw another thread criticizing Obama for not visiting west Texas. I am no Obama fan, but I can see how his supporters can sometimes feel he's damned no matter what he does.
 
X Factor said:
I doubt you'll ever see any president flying in a single engine Cesna. Tons of security is alway required, no matter which president. What did Obama have to gain from this trip? The funny thing is I saw another thread criticizing Obama for not visiting west Texas. I am no Obama fan, but I can see how his supporters can sometimes feel he's damned no matter what he does.
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My objection has nothing to do with Obama per se - I said the same thing with other POTUS's.

The security the POTUS gets is ridiculous.

I was in Detroit back when and the city virtually shut down when Clinton came to town because every road he might use had to be blocked off.

It was ridiculous.

NO ONE is that indespensible.

If he is so worried about getting shot - then don't go out so often, spend the time doing his job better and save Americans tens of millions in security costs.
 
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He was going to be in Texas anyway for the Bush Library opening. There's literally no reason to try to make a false controversy out of his being there.

Also, my aunt lives in Texas and I spent awhile with her and her family some time back. The people there are great if you're dealing with urban Texans (she lives outside of Dallas/Fort Worth) or Mexicans. Rural white Texans are reprehensible people almost to a man.
 
Einzige said:
He was going to be in Texas anyway for the Bush Library opening. There's literally no reason to try to make a false controversy out of his being there.

Also, my aunt lives in Texas and I spent awhile with her and her family some time back. The people there are great if you're dealing with urban Texans (she lives outside of Dallas/Fort Worth) or Mexicans. Rural white Texans are reprehensible people almost to a man.
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And why the heck does he need to do that? Especially if his security costs taxpayers millions for the trip?


His trip to West, Texas was political.

You are naive, imo, if you believe it wasn't.
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
IMO obama's trip to Texas was a political statement trying to make the point that the Boston terrorist attack and this industrial explosion were at the same level.
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That is just straight up nutty. He was already in Texas for the library thing.
 
This is clearly a case where Obama cannot make any right decision for the right. If he did not go to texas he would have been uncaring and ignoring a red state, and when he does go to texas his motives were not right, and it costs too much. Reps are just going to complain one way or the other about obama. Personally, after what texas did to kennedy I give him props for just showing up in that state.
 
tererun said:
This is clearly a case where Obama cannot make any right decision for the right. If he did not go to texas he would have been uncaring and ignoring a red state, and when he does go to texas his motives were not right, and it costs too much. Reps are just going to complain one way or the other about obama. Personally, after what texas did to kennedy I give him props for just showing up in that state.
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I knew when I saw you had replied to this thread that it would be to bash everyone on the right while completely disregarding that I'm the one who started the thread.
 
Bonzai said:
Oh, come on. Texas has zero any type of protection and regulation about anything. It was like an industrial mishap in Nigeria, for Christ sake..................
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Well, you stuck your foot in your mouth.

A tangle of agencies regulates plants like the one in West. Different agencies were assigned oversight for different chemicals there. Among the federal agencies responsible were the E.P.A., Homeland Security, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration. State agencies include the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, the state chemist’s office and the state health services department.

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OSHA officials, meanwhile, acknowledged that they had last inspected the plant 28 years ago. Agency officials said the plant did not fall into its priority categories based on prior inspections, a lack of worker complaints and because it was not classified as high risk by the E.P.A.

Inspectors with the Texas Feed and Fertilizer Control Service, however, had made at least 35 visits to the plant since 2006, including one on April 5, 12 days before the blast. That agency regulates aspects of the fertilizer industry as part of the state chemist’s office, and oversees the sale of ammonium nitrate in the state. The state chemist, Tim Herrman, said the law prohibits him from disclosing information about the 115 facilities that hold permits to sell ammonium nitrate in Texas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/25/u...regulatory-oversight.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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So Texas was far more active in inspecting and regulating the plant.
 
ksu_aviator said:
Well, you stuck your foot in your mouth.



So Texas was far more active in inspecting and regulating the plant.
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Yea.....Well......
I'l be Nigeria would do it better, so there.
 
Hey Obamy, stay the fik out of Texas.
 
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