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Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

APACHERAT said:
9/11/01 Al Qaeda attacks the USA on it's own soil. America is at war.

Fast track to 2003, Bush invades Iraq and the Muslim world craps it's pants. In fact all of America's enemies are scared crappless of G.W. Bush

One of those enemies is Omar Qaddfi. Qaddafi decides to get out of the terrorism business and secretly contacts the USA. Qaddafi want to become an ally with the USA and defeat Al Qaeda. Qadaffi agrees to destroy all of his WMD's and dismantle his nuclear R&D project.

Since the CIA was no longer allowed to use enhanced interrogation to prevent terrorist attacks on America, Qaddafi agrees to have the CIA to turn over captured suspected Al Qaeda members for enhanced interrogation by Qaddafi's intelligence service.

Unknown to most of the world Libya has become an ally of the USA.

Fast track 2009. Obama becomes POTUS. Obama ordered the CIA not to capture Al Qaeda to gather intelligence. Probably because Obama promised to close down GITMO and didn't want to keep adding more terrorist to GITMO's population.

Fast track to 2012. CIA sends up a red flag because no Al Qaeda are being captured and interrogated, intelligence is drying up on Al Qaeda. That all of the intelligence that the Obama administration has been using was gathered during the Bush administration.

Fast track a few more months. The Frogs want regime change in Libya. Maybe because they want a better contract for Libyan oil. The Frogs decide to make it a NATO issue. NATO runs out of bombs and need help from Obama. Obama decides since we no longer capture Al Qaeda to find out what they are planning, Obama ignores the War Powers Act and wages an illegal war to throw another ally under the bus.

Qaddafi is captured and raped and then murdered.

Fast track to 9/11/12. Al Qaeda militia now operating in Libya attack the American consulate in Benghazi and Obama does nothing while four Americans fight for their lives and are eventually killed.

Hillary Clinton's e-mails ->Hillary Clinton's 'hacked' Benghazi emails: FULL RELEASE ? RT USA

The second dump of Hillary's e-mails -> Guccifer releases second trove of Clinton emails ? RT USA
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Fast track...... this whole thing was a story worthy of a two week news cycle in Sept 2012. That is what it got. The two weeks have long since expired. This is now moldy old food in the back of the frige. It should have been tossed months ago. Throw it out as no one cares.
 
upsideguy said:
Fast track...... this whole thing was a story worthy of a two week news cycle in Sept 2012. That is what it got. The two weeks have long since expired. This is now moldy old food in the back of the frige. It should have been tossed months ago. Throw it out as no one cares.
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We are talking about a White House cover up to get a President reelected. This cover up is bigger than Watergate and no Americans were killed during the Watergate cover up.

It's a real shame when the MSM and liberals in America gives Obama "another pass" at the cost of Americans being killed.
 
upsideguy said:
Fast track...... this whole thing was a story worthy of a two week news cycle in Sept 2012. That is what it got. The two weeks have long since expired. This is now moldy old food in the back of the frige. It should have been tossed months ago. Throw it out as no one cares.
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That's about how I feel. Unless there is a smoking gun found someplace like the Watergate tapes, there isn't many people paying attention.
 
upsideguy said:
Fast track...... this whole thing was a story worthy of a two week news cycle in Sept 2012. That is what it got. The two weeks have long since expired. This is now moldy old food in the back of the frige. It should have been tossed months ago. Throw it out as no one cares.
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No, you are not correct that this story is moldy old food. The dead bodies of our Ambassador and others who were pleading for assistance demand an explanation as to what happened. Many people care very deeply about injustice. You may not be interested, and that is your right, but this is not going to go away. These were Americans serving their Country, and they were murdered by thugs! :thumbdown:
 
Perotista said:
That's about how I feel. Unless there is a smoking gun found someplace like the Watergate tapes, there isn't many people paying attention.
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Smoking gun like a disturbing photo of our Cn'C on the job in the White House Situation Room on 9-11-12 watching the same live feed from a UAV above Benghazi showing our consulate under attack. The same live feed that the U.S. military was watching at the same time at CENTCOM and at the Pentagon who already testified in Congress that they knew this was a planned attack while it was happening and had nothing to do with a You Tube video and were waiting for orders from the White House that never came ?

"Leon, I'm going upstairs, I have to catch a plane for Vegas in the morning"
 
polgara said:
No, you are not correct that this story is moldy old food. The dead bodies of our Ambassador and others who were pleading for assistance demand an explanation as to what happened. Many people care very deeply about injustice. You may not be interested, and that is your right, but this is not going to go away. These were Americans serving their Country, and they were murdered by thugs! :thumbdown:
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You're right; it's not going to go away. The Ambassador asked for help, but none was given. Four Americans serving their country died, and yet some want to shrug this off as a "comes with the territory" event when it doesn't. Not in 30+ years.

It's not okay. It won't be forgotten. Two former Seals were left to die, and "nobody" was "in charge." That's not a good enough explanation for me.
 
APACHERAT said:
Smoking gun like a disturbing photo of our Cn'C on the job in the White House Situation Room on 9-11-12 watching the same live feed from a UAV above Benghazi showing our consulate under attack. The same live feed that the U.S. military was watching at the same time at CENTCOM and at the Pentagon who already testified in Congress that they knew this was a planned attack while it was happening and had nothing to do with a You Tube video and were waiting for orders from the White House that never came ?

"Leon, I'm going upstairs, I have to catch a plane for Vegas in the morning"
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Good evening, Apacherat. :2wave:

The Presidential Oath of Office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect,and defend the Constitution of the United States."

It does not say anything about whether or not he feels like it on any given day, and it certainly doesn't matter whether or not he even agrees with the Constitution! He took an oath, and he is bound by his affirmation of that oath as long as he is POTUS! :shock:
 
APACHERAT said:
We are talking about a White House cover up to get a President reelected. This cover up is bigger than Watergate and no Americans were killed during the Watergate cover up.

It's a real shame when the MSM and liberals in America gives Obama "another pass" at the cost of Americans being killed.
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Come on! You only care about using this to attack the Obama administration. You don't give a rat's ass (pun intended) about these four American lives. If you did you would be ballistic about the thousands killed in Iraq. Old news, let it die with dignity.
 
Grant said:
She said it was that many, but that's rather doubtful.

What's the point of writing if no one reads the mail? Maybe 500,000 of those emails were from Benghazi asking for help.

This woman reached her peak when she was first lady, and she only demonstrated at the hearing what Bill taught her,.
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I would say so.....All one has to do is read the transcripts and one will notice that she didn't answer many questions directly and threw her answer off on tangents. Course it is reasonable to think that she does not have to incriminate herself in any way.
 
Grant said:
Who else has asked for more security and been ignored?

And of course this isn't about better guns and free prescriptions.

it was a preventable tragedy.
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This is a good point to bring up.....maybe Yemen. But who else was requesting security for an Embassy that was in an area of conflict? One thing is for sure I woulkdnt have let Clinton go with any answer she wanted. I would have forced to answer direct questions and not talk about all that Pretty **** about coming together and what we got to do as a Country and all.

I would have explained to her. You do know that you are here to take responsibility for your screw up. Then I would have aptly explained why her career is now over. Right after her remarks on what difference does it make.
 
upsideguy said:
Fast track...... this whole thing was a story worthy of a two week news cycle in Sept 2012. That is what it got. The two weeks have long since expired. This is now moldy old food in the back of the frige. It should have been tossed months ago. Throw it out as no one cares.
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Not at all or did you forget the 23 Countries that Rioted at the same time.....any Reason Team Obama didn't tell Morsi that we want to question the Sunni Cleric who used Social media to get the Jump off? Just why didn't the Sunni Cleric who caused the Riot in Egypt, wasn't brought in for Questioning?

See this is the Other part that is missing bits and pieces as well. Now we all know Team Obama blamed a film created about Mohammed. Yet Team Obama doesn't go after the Man who started it all.....the Sunni Cleric out of Egypt. The same POS that never saw the film.....heard about it. Then Called on all Muslims to protest using Social media Sites.

Any reason this POS Sunni Cleric is still walking around on the planet? Just why is he still breathing?
 
polgara said:
Good evening, Apacherat. :2wave:

The Presidential Oath of Office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect,and defend the Constitution of the United States."

It does not say anything about whether or not he feels like it on any given day, and it certainly doesn't matter whether or not he even agrees with the Constitution! He took an oath, and he is bound by his affirmation of that oath as long as he is POTUS! :shock:
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Good late evening Polgara, I think most of us are well informed. well at least 48 % of us are and remember on that day in January of 2009 when Barack Obama took that oath he had a big problem and didn't get it right. He had to take that oath a second time behind closed doors later on that day.

To think that there are tens of millions of military veterans who took basically the same oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, all were able to take that oath with out screwing it up and didn't have to retake that oath. Over 99.9 % upheld the oath they took and Obama couldn't.
 
Quik said:
Why did they need more security? Why wasn't Benghazi secure?

Because we destroyed their central government and police forces, and allowed Al Qaeda to roam freely
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This is very true.

But it does not excuse not having enough security at the embassy (no matter who's fault it was).
 
MMC said:
I never said she lied.....although I did say she knew what the situation was like from the time Gadhafi was out-ed. There is no doubt of that. Also We know from the first attack they blew holes in the Iron gate. The gates were removed and never put back on. So proceeding with reducing security even if it is a stamp would then show for some reason. Libya just wasn't worth Hillary's Time. Or that she had no time for this Policy despite the conflict that was occurring. Which began before the Syrian Conflict.

So not looking at if anyone is lying.....we certainly have some very damaging info with Hillarys Signature.....and like you say. Even up on a Formal Request, which you think is the same as all other Diplomatic Cables. Like those sent by Underlings and Clerks wherein Hillary's signature is forged thru a stamp. We shouldn't think there is anything else to it.....Right?

Myself I doubt Hillary wouldn't have ever been on the phone with either Ambassador. Knowing what went down with Gadhafi and then the TNC afterwards. See I don't think Hillary is to much of paper pusher and is more direct and hands on.
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So in other words you're positive she specifically denied everything personally because... because you just have a feeling?
 
Either they thought that there wasn't much of a risk or someone made a huge mistake and didn't connect 2 plus 2. My guess is on the first.
 
DA60 said:
This is very true.

But it does not excuse not having enough security at the embassy (no matter who's fault it was).
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There would be no need for additional security if we didn't bomb Libya. Yes, Hilary is responsible for their deaths. She's responsible for bombing Libya, which is the underlying cause of their deaths.

I don't understand why Republicans can't seem to get that part. Well actually I do, it's because of their love of war and bombing Muslim countries.
 
roughdraft274 said:
So in other words you're positive she specifically denied everything personally because... because you just have a feeling?
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No actually What helps in some determinations was.....the Fiscal Budget for the State at the Beginning of 2012. Then the attacks and then Hillary telling an Ambassador via Email or Letter with her signature on it. Telling that Ambassador to proceed with the security reductions.

See either way.....the First Ambassador followed the directive she received. Which was a directive with Clinton's Signature upon it. So security was reduced and that was after the Consulate was attacked the First time. After the failed attempt on the Brits ambassador life and after the Red Cross was attacked.

Which Clinton Knew all of this before the second attack ever took place.
 
MMC said:
No actually What helps in some determinations was.....the Fiscal Budget for the State at the Beginning of 2012. Then the attacks and then Hillary telling an Ambassador via Email or Letter with her signature on it. Telling that Ambassador to proceed with the security reductions.
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Hillary knew of the budget, but she has claimed she never saw the letter you are talking about, and that is likely since there are over a million of them, all bearing her signature.

This is starting to just look more and more like a wild goose chase.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Either they thought that there wasn't much of a risk or someone made a huge mistake and didn't connect 2 plus 2. My guess is on the first.
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Why should you have to guess at all?

If the truth was out there then there would be no guessing.
 
MMC said:
No actually What helps in some determinations was.....the Fiscal Budget for the State at the Beginning of 2012. Then the attacks and then Hillary telling an Ambassador via Email or Letter with her signature on it. Telling that Ambassador to proceed with the security reductions.

See either way.....the First Ambassador followed the directive she received. Which was a directive with Clinton's Signature upon it. So security was reduced and that was after the Consulate was attacked the First time. After the failed attempt on the Brits ambassador life and after the Red Cross was attacked.

Which Clinton Knew all of this before the second attack ever took place.
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Let's say for a minute that you're right about everything you're talking about. Just what don you want to do about it?
 
Quik said:
There would be no need for additional security if we didn't bomb Libya. Yes, Hilary is responsible for their deaths. She's responsible for bombing Libya, which is the underlying cause of their deaths.

I don't understand why Republicans can't seem to get that part. Well actually I do, it's because of their love of war and bombing Muslim countries.
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Have the terrorists claimed that this was the underlying cause? If that's the case why did Hillary and Barry blame it all on a video and arrest an American in California?
 
roughdraft274 said:
Hillary knew of the budget, but she has claimed she never saw the letter you are talking about, and that is likely since there are over a million of them, all bearing her signature.

This is starting to just look more and more like a wild goose chase.
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There are a million letters floating around with Hillary Clinton's name on them? Did she authorize these million letters to be used in such a way?
 
roughdraft274 said:
Hillary knew of the budget, but she has claimed she never saw the letter you are talking about, and that is likely since there are over a million of them, all bearing her signature.

This is starting to just look more and more like a wild goose chase.
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Her name signed by an aid is not her signature. The report states her signature is on this document.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Her name signed by an aid is not her signature. The report states her signature is on this document.
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Most likely a signature on the computer that is just copied to the bottom of the page by whoever writes the letters. Happens all the time in business and government.
 
BMCM said:
Let's say for a minute that you're right about everything you're talking about. Just what don you want to do about it?
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I already put it up In front of the Thread. I think the Story should be told of the What those Navy Seals did. I think they Need to be Decorated for saving the Lives of Embassy Staff and others. For taking on over a 100 armed attackers and with Rpg's Killing 60 of them. They are taking care of some of the other measures over security from the Findings of the Independent Investigation. To prevent this from happening again. So that issue is being dealt with.

They also need to bring those to Justice that Obama said he would. Which putting out the truth who we got attacked by. Which was the Security Force that was also Allegedly protecting our people For that Part of Benghazi.

Then to bring in that Sunni Leading Cleric In Egypt for some questioning and causing the Riots to jump off.

Since it was a major foul up......for it all to go down on Team Obama for the records. Politically killing any possible chances for Clinton to run for anything ever again. Thus sending her out to pasture. As well as Obama getting the credit For not remaining vigilant with the Anniversary of 911. Pretty much politically killing anything he would want to do over Politics after he finishes out his term.
 
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