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Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

You have a right to life, but do not have a right to anything that helps to sustain that life.
 
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shrubnose said:
I agree with you (In general.), and I'm going to guess that most people agree with you.

But if you will do a little research you will find that some states, localities don't.

You might want to check your local laws before you start a project involving rainwater.

As a matter of fact, a court in Jackson county, Oregon sentenced a man to 30 days in jail and fined him $1,500 for the 'crime' of harvesting rainwater on his property.

Read more here: Oregon criminalizes permaculture; claims state ownership over all rainwater - ponds and swales restricted - jail time for violators
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Wow. Oregon sucks.
 
shrubnose said:
I agree with you (In general.), and I'm going to guess that most people agree with you.

But if you will do a little research you will find that some states, localities don't.

You might want to check your local laws before you start a project involving rainwater.

As a matter of fact, a court in Jackson county, Oregon sentenced a man to 30 days in jail and fined him $1,500 for the 'crime' of harvesting rainwater on his property.

Read more here: Oregon criminalizes permaculture; claims state ownership over all rainwater - ponds and swales restricted - jail time for violators
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I'm well aquainted with those type laws in my state, and rain barrels are actually promoted and ecouraged here.

I am a Master Gardener affiliated with the University of Tennesse, and have actually taught MG classes on Rain barrels, their construction and uses. Along with vermicomposting and a few other topics. :wink:
 
GottaGo said:
I'm well aquainted with those type laws in my state, and rain barrels are actually promoted and ecouraged here.

I am a Master Gardener affiliated with the University of Tennesse, and have actually taught MG classes on Rain barrels, their construction and uses. Along with vermicomposting and a few other topics. :wink:
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I'll just say: Keep spreading the word.
 
BMCM said:
In the rural areas a lot of people have their own wells. There may be a few in the cities, but I've never seen or known anyone that has a well dug.

Yes, there are some private companies that processes and distributes the water, however I seriously doubt that the company paid for the materials and labor to run a water pipe to every house in the area they serve. Do you know of such a company that did so?
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I live in a city and have a well. Too far from the street for the local water authority to force is onto public water/sewer.

Locally there is Aqua Pennsylvania, a private company.
 
He's right: It IS a resource that should be managed.

Not FOR profit, though - so he's wrong on that part. . .Douche. Because managing it will help ensure availability and quality *too all* - marketing it limits availability and doesn't do **** to ensure quality *too all*
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I live in a city and have a well. Too far from the street for the local water authority to force is onto public water/sewer.

Locally there is Aqua Pennsylvania, a private company.
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Did Aqua Pennsylvania pay for the materials and labor to lay all the pipe to each and every hose and business?
 
I don't believe that water management should be considered a business endeavour, however, here in Canada we consider fresh water to be a natural resource that needs to be managed, controlled and protected. States in the US, such as California, have attempted to have "pipelines" built to Canada for the purpose of transporting our water resources south to meet their needs. Most fresh water resources of any consequence are so large that countries own them and they're not selling to private businesses.
 
Not surprised, in Maryland we're taxed for the rain that lands on our property.

What a loony country we've become.
 
I'll start by saying I don't support the lack of sense in many of these regulations, nor do I support the Oregon government's position that it owns all the animals and physical resources. However, there is an issue of water management. Where does the water from the fellow's collection ponds go? Is it allowed to flow onto the property of others affecting their property? Do his collection efforts dimiish the waterflow of other people's water resource? Suppose his neighbors' property rely upon the rainfall runoff that happened for generations until this fellow created his ponds.

Now multiply this question by every landowner in the state and the state government would spend billions separately investigating and adjudicating water questions. So instead, water policies and laws are formed that serve the larger group. But whenever one feeds a village someone's oxen gets gored. Sucks when you're that someone.

Btw, those opposed to the assignation of water rights need to look into the history of the Dust Bowl.
 
BMCM said:
Did Aqua Pennsylvania pay for the materials and labor to lay all the pipe to each and every hose and business?
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Yes, do you have a point?
 
CanadaJohn said:
I don't believe that water management should be considered a business endeavour, however, here in Canada we consider fresh water to be a natural resource that needs to be managed, controlled and protected. States in the US, such as California, have attempted to have "pipelines" built to Canada for the purpose of transporting our water resources south to meet their needs. Most fresh water resources of any consequence are so large that countries own them and they're not selling to private businesses.
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California has a long history of turning entire regions into virtual deserts. Resist, you must!
 
Lachean said:
Not surprised, in Maryland we're taxed for the rain that lands on our property.

What a loony country we've become.
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That really is loony.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I guess I would like a list of what everyone considers to be a basic human right. If I dig a well on my property then it is my water. If I grow a tomato then it is mine. How many objectors to what this guy said actually pay a water bill?
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Who owns lakes and reservoirs, etc.?

I've purchased my water from a water services company for many years. It's a cooperative of which I am a member.
 
You know, it usually helps to actually watch the videos or read the links that people post before you go off on your preconceived notions about them. I didn't see where he called for privatizing water. He did say that everyone should have access to water, but that it should be charged for use like any other utility and assistance should be granted to those who can't afford it. If you give a damn about water conservation, this is a good idea. The cost would be low, but it will help with water usage during times of drought and probably bring down costs by encouraging people to cut down on waste.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
You know, it usually helps to actually watch the videos or read the links that people post before you go off on your preconceived notions about them. I didn't see where he called for privatizing water. He did say that everyone should have access to water, but that it should be charged for use like any other utility and assistance should be granted to those who can't afford it. If you give a damn about water conservation, this is a good idea. The cost would be low, but it will help with water usage during times of drought and probably bring down costs by encouraging people to cut down on waste.
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No, he didn't literally say, "Water should be privatized", but his words still had the same meaning, IMO.
 
radcen said:
No, he didn't literally say, "Water should be privatized", but his words still had the same meaning, IMO.
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No he didn't. He said that people should pay for the water they use and get subsidized if they can't afford it. Plenty of government services have fees from use. Public electricity, community colleges, and health insurance typically have some type of fee for their use. This isn't any different. People treat market forces as if they are some kind of evil, but they are usually the most efficient way of allocating resources.
 
It sort of has been privatized. I live in a 1200 sf townhouse. I have zero back yard and a small fron yard with the world's most neglected palm tree. I have a HE washer. If its yellow its mellow. I turn off the water when I brush my teeth. My shower takes about 7 minutes.

My water bill was $45 last month.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
No he didn't. He said that people should pay for the water they use and get subsidized if they can't afford it. Plenty of government services have fees from use. Public electricity, community colleges, and health insurance typically have some type of fee for their use. This isn't any different. People treat market forces as if they are some kind of evil, but they are usually the most efficient way of allocating resources.
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Yes, he did. We disagree. Leave it at that.


specklebang said:
It sort of has been privatized. I live in a 1200 sf townhouse. I have zero back yard and a small fron yard with the world's most neglected palm tree. I have a HE washer. If its yellow its mellow. I turn off the water when I brush my teeth. My shower takes about 7 minutes.

My water bill was $45 last month.
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Tried that many years ago. Made the bathroom smell like pee. Stopped doing it.
 
radcen said:
Yes, he did. We disagree. Leave it at that.
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How is calling for a use-fee privatization? I'm not calling it evil. I'm not even against water privatization, at least in principle.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
You know, it usually helps to actually watch the videos or read the links that people post before you go off on your preconceived notions about them. I didn't see where he called for privatizing water. He did say that everyone should have access to water, but that it should be charged for use like any other utility and assistance should be granted to those who can't afford it. If you give a damn about water conservation, this is a good idea. The cost would be low, but it will help with water usage during times of drought and probably bring down costs by encouraging people to cut down on waste.
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People already pay for the water they use. I get a water bill every month.
 
People who want free water should walk to the river with a bucket or buy a shovel and start digging. Otherwise, just hope it is included in your rent if you are that poor.
 
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