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FAA Makes NO FLY ZONE Over Arkansas Oil Pipeline Rupture

TheDemSocialist said:
FAA Makes NO FLY ZONE Over Arkansas Oil Pipeline Rupture - YouTube

Hmmm FAA doesnt want people flying over anymore? I wonder why?
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First of all, it's local authorities who requested the ban.

FAA puts no-fly zone over Arkansas oil spill with Exxon employee in charge ? RT USA

Lynn Lunsford, a spokesperson for the FAA, revealed that the restriction was requested by local disaster officials and that the order would eventually be amended to include news helicopters.

“They are using at least one helicopter to provide aerial support for the cleanup,” Lunsford said. “For safety reasons, they asked us to protect the airspace 1,000 feet above the area to allow the aircraft to move as needed.”
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Second of all:

Mr. Lunsford said local disaster response officials requested the restriction on flights because they are using "at least one" helicopter to move crews and to spot oil that can't be seen from the ground.

"The pilot of the helicopter needs to be able to move about freely without potential conflicts with other aircraft," Mr. Lunsford wrote in an email. He said similar restrictions are regularly put in place when aircraft are used in disaster response

Read more: No-Fly Zone in Place Over Arkansas Pipeline Spill Site | Fox Business
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So

1. The FAA didn't request this.
2. This "ban" will be amended to allow news helicopters to film.
3. It's done out of a pragmatic reason - it's not as if this is an oil spill in the middle of the ocean where there is plenty of space for aircraft to navigate through.

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If the point is a media black out, they're doing a pretty ****ty job at stopping news crews on the ground from filming the issue.
 
Hatuey said:
First of all, it's local authorities who requested the ban.

FAA puts no-fly zone over Arkansas oil spill with Exxon employee in charge ? RT USA



Second of all:



So

1. The FAA didn't request this.
2. This "ban" will be amended to allow news helicopters to film.
3. It's done out of a pragmatic reason - it's not as if this is an oil spill in the middle of the ocean where there is plenty of space for aircraft to navigate through.

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If the point is a media black out, they're doing a pretty ****ty job at stopping news crews on the ground from filming the issue.
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Thanks for the clarification :thumbs:
 
Hatuey said:
3. It's done out of a pragmatic reason - it's not as if this is an oil spill in the middle of the ocean where there is plenty of space for aircraft to navigate through.
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The difference being that the helicopters can maneuver through the ocean water but can't maneuver through the trees?

I don't understand how the airspace over the ocean is somehow less encumbered than airspace over land.

The rationale is that there's not enough airspace for more than one helicopter?


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Media Faces Barriers Covering Arkansas Oil Spill | KUAR

On Wednesday morning, the news media – including KUAR News – had been told they would be allowed to follow Attorney General Dustin McDaniel as he toured the oil spill site, but less than 90 seconds into the tour the media was told to leave by Exxon and local authorities.
KARK News Director Kellerman says this brings up some other concerns.
"I guess what concerns me is, 'Who's in charge, and does Exxon have the ability to tell people where they can go?' Whether it's a homeowner, whether it's the media, my understanding is that Exxon can't tell anyone where to go," says Kellerman.

Has Exxon admitted yet that the crap has made its way to Lake Conway?

Iirc, as of just before the release of Adam Randall's footage, Exxon had been saying that the lake had been spared.
People I know in the area had been saying differently from day one.

The day that Adam Randall's footage as released was the day the no fly zone was created.

It stinks of big money and small town corruption, imho.
 
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From the FAA website:
Center: On the LITTLE ROCK VORTAC (LIT) 319 degree radial at 22.4 nautical miles. (Latitude: 34º58'55"N, Longitude: 92º26'42"W)
Radius: 5 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to and including 1000 feet AGL
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Anyone can fly in this area, they just can't go below 1000 feet because there is a helicopter operating at that altitude. News helicopters have cameras that are powerful enough to capture the scene without interfering with this support helicopter, so there is a reason you're only hearing about this blackout on youtube.
 
Of course the FAA did not request this.

Exxon Mobil requested it, and the FAA complied, even though it's absolutely unnecessary, just as the No Fly over Deepwater Horizon was unnecessary.

The cynic would say the FAA is doing what private industry wants, to help conceal the damage.
 
They do this over every forest fire, natural disaster, or sporting event. It really is very routine.
 
Really? I'm surprised that flies even hang around a place like that. Seriously, I don't think anyone is trying to cover up anything. There's no shortage of news coverage, and it doesn't appear that anything sinister is going on.
 
Probably don't want no darn rotor wash flinging oil (pronounced like earl) up on the razorbacks. Them be good eatin'.
 
Henry David said:
Of course the FAA did not request this.

Exxon Mobil requested it, and the FAA complied, even though it's absolutely unnecessary, just as the No Fly over Deepwater Horizon was unnecessary.

The cynic would say the FAA is doing what private industry wants, to help conceal the damage.
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Oh yeah, and big bag of money showed up at FAA HQ to help them make up their minds. :roll:
 
Totally standard procedure for any disaster area, wildfires, crashes, whatever. It's to keep the airspace clear for aircraft involved in the cleanup process.

And the no-fly zones are small enough to where if you really wanted footage of the area you could still get it.

Unnecessary? Relief pilots will have their attention focused downwards. The guy in the news copter? Also looking downwards. Not focused on looking for each other.
 
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American said:
Oh yeah, and big bag of money showed up at FAA HQ to help them make up their minds. :roll:
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I doubt that very much. Probably you're just kidding.

No, government does not do the bidding of industry.
 
ksu_aviator said:
They do this over every forest fire, natural disaster, or sporting event. It really is very routine.
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You are right that it is routine in this day and age.

But most of the time, it is unnecessary, very much like the Presidential TFRs.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
The difference being that the helicopters can maneuver through the ocean water but can't maneuver through the trees?

I don't understand how the airspace over the ocean is somehow less encumbered than airspace over land.

The rationale is that there's not enough airspace for more than one helicopter?


3/8699 NOTAM Details

Media Faces Barriers Covering Arkansas Oil Spill | KUAR

On Wednesday morning, the news media – including KUAR News – had been told they would be allowed to follow Attorney General Dustin McDaniel as he toured the oil spill site, but less than 90 seconds into the tour the media was told to leave by Exxon and local authorities.
KARK News Director Kellerman says this brings up some other concerns.
"I guess what concerns me is, 'Who's in charge, and does Exxon have the ability to tell people where they can go?' Whether it's a homeowner, whether it's the media, my understanding is that Exxon can't tell anyone where to go," says Kellerman.

Has Exxon admitted yet that the crap has made its way to Lake Conway?

Iirc, as of just before the release of Adam Randall's footage, Exxon had been saying that the lake had been spared.
People I know in the area had been saying differently from day one.

The day that Adam Randall's footage as released was the day the no fly zone was created.

It stinks of big money and small town corruption, imho.
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Arkingsas has less airspace, because it sucks.
 
Deuce said:
Totally standard procedure for any disaster area, wildfires, crashes, whatever. It's to keep the airspace clear for aircraft involved in the cleanup process.

And the no-fly zones are small enough to where if you really wanted footage of the area you could still get it.

Unnecessary? Relief pilots will have their attention focused downwards. The guy in the news copter? Also looking downwards. Not focused on looking for each other.
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Not to mention if an aircraft crashed on the effected area, igniting the spilled oil.
 
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