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Scalia Wonders If Same-Sex Parents ‘Harmful’ To Children

Are you disputing it?

When has same sex parenting ever been a societal norm?

Futurity.org – Survey: How kids of same-sex parents fare as adults


Your one sample has a few problems: Controversial Gay-Parenting Study Is Severely Flawed, Journal's Audit Finds - Percolator - The Chronicle of Higher Education
Since it was published last month, the study, titled “How Different Are the Adult Children of Parents Who Have Same-Sex Relationships?,” has been the subject of numerous news articles and blog posts. It has been used by opponents of same-sex marriage to make their case, and it’s been blasted by gay-rights activists as flawed and biased.

The study’s author, Mark Regnerus, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Texas at Austin, even made the cover of The Weekly Standard. In the illustration, he is strapped to a Catherine wheel that’s being tended by masked torturers.
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Among the problems . . . identified is the paper’s definition of “lesbian mothers” and “gay fathers”—an aspect that has been the focus of much of the public criticism. A woman could be identified as a “lesbian mother” in the study if she had had a relationship with another woman at any point after having a child, regardless of the brevity of that relationship and whether or not the two women raised the child as a couple.

. . . that fact alone in the paper should have “disqualified it immediately” from being considered for publication.

In his audit, he writes that the peer-review system failed because of “both ideology and inattention” on the part of the reviewers (three of the six reviewers, according to Sherkat, are on record as opposing same-sex marriage)
 
That's the state being in the marriage business, because the state has to first confirm that there is no next of kin before it can do anything with the property.

If the state acts in good faith, and then an heir pops up, the state has to make restitution.

No, this has very little to do with marriage and who runs it. This is a matter of finding heirs which don't even need to be children, but parents, grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles, etc and the chances this ever comes up where there is none to be found is rare. I'm sorry, but if you want to argue for the state running marriage you will need to find a better example.
 
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I just somehow doubt that being raised by a single mom or two women without a father figure in sight is good at raising men. Call me what you will for that, but I think the evidence is out there that shows I'm right.


You 'thinking' it, don't make it true.
 
Does he cry in public with any sort regularity? Does he mince when he walks? Is he afraid of his own shadow? Is he perceived regularly as a wuss (if you don't understand what that is there's no talking to you honestly on this issue)? Does he fly into excited hysterics at the drop of a hat?

It's one of those you have to see it, but when you do you know it things.


So you have well-functioning "gaydar"?
 
That's the state being in the marriage business, because the state has to first confirm that there is no next of kin before it can do anything with the property.

If the state acts in good faith, and then an heir pops up, the state has to make restitution.

Uhhh, it's hard to understand what you're talking about. Escheats to the state are diminishingly rare. When a person dies, there is almost always some family in their lives and they bring a probate (not the state), if that's even necessary (all states have "expedited" probates for small estates that involve perfunctory court proceedings). In 20 years of probate practice I've never seen the government bring a probate (except as a creditor to get paid for something).
 
Does anyone know why there is an increase in boys acting girly?

I'm not saying it is connected to this, but I'm not taking it out as a cause either.

Any answers to that?

Pretty.sure that's common in the late.stages of a civilizations decadence stage.
 
The obvious truth that homosexuality is a birth defect?

BWHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

You have to love the inventiveness of homophobes.
Baiting with the epithet "homophobe" is just as egregious as race-baiting those opposed to illegal immigration, amnesty and legalization.

When you resort to that LCD approch to debate, you will not be taken seriously, or for anything other than an extremist pre-conceived ideologue.

That you don't grasp that opposition to the definitively inappropriate "marriage" designation for SS couples has nothing whatsoever to do with application of your alleged epithet, likely means that you've succumbed to the extremist pre-conceived ideological mindset far too long.
 
Baiting with the epithet "homophobe" is just as egregious as race-baiting those opposed to illegal immigration, amnesty and legalization.

When you resort to that LCD approch to debate, you will not be taken seriously, or for anything other than an extremist pre-conceived ideologue.

That you don't grasp that opposition to the definitively inappropriate "marriage" designation for SS couples has nothing whatsoever to do with application of your alleged epithet, likely means that you've succumbed to the extremist pre-conceived ideological mindset far too long.

Your claims are so profoundly false, one can only conclude homophobia motivates you.

But regardless, your claims have been shown to be profoundly false. I bet you keep repeating them.
 
Does anyone know why there is an increase in boys acting girly?

I'm not saying it is connected to this, but I'm not taking it out as a cause either.

Any answers to that?

Conservative media delusions affecting your perception of reality?
 
Your claims are so profoundly false, one can only conclude homophobia motivates you.

But regardless, your claims have been shown to be profoundly false. I bet you keep repeating them.
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No, this has very little to do with marriage and who runs it. This is a matter of finding heirs which don't even need to be children, but parents, grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles, etc and the chances this ever comes up where there is none to be found is rare.
And the way you find out if someone has any right to a thing, is you start with the marriage license of the decided. If I'm married when I die, everything in my name goes to my wife. There's little to nothing anyone can do about it because that's the law. That's what you're saying shouldn't exist, next-of-kin and automatic inheritance laws.

That's commerce, so of course the state should be involved in it.
 
Uhhh, it's hard to understand what you're talking about. Escheats to the state are diminishingly rare. When a person dies, there is almost always some family in their lives and they bring a probate (not the state), if that's even necessary (all states have "expedited" probates for small estates that involve perfunctory court proceedings). In 20 years of probate practice I've never seen the government bring a probate (except as a creditor to get paid for something).
With the ignorant **** you post around this forum I don't believe you're a lawyer for one second. Not one fleeting instant.
 
I just somehow doubt that being raised by a single mom or two women without a father figure in sight is good at raising men. Call me what you will for that, but I think the evidence is out there that shows I'm right.

What utter stupidity...

Kids with Lesbian Parents May Do Better Than Their Peers - TIME

The authors found that children raised by lesbian mothers — whether the mother was partnered or single — scored very similarly to children raised by heterosexual parents on measures of development and social behavior. These findings were expected, the authors said; however, they were surprised to discover that children in lesbian homes scored higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and aggression.

"We simply expected to find no difference in psychological adjustment between adolescents reared in lesbian families and the normative sample of age-matched controls," says Gartrell. "I was surprised to find that on some measures we found higher levels of [psychological] competency and lower levels of behavioral problems. It wasn't something I anticipated."

Steve Forbes father was gay, Mary Shelly (who gave us Frankenstein) was the daughter of a gay woman, Rene Russo was raised by her gay mother... What kids need and want is love and acceptance, they don't give a crap if it comes from one man and one woman, or one man, or one woman or two women or two men...
 
while I hope the USSC overturns the bans (btw why are not the liberals complaining about the estate tax that raped Edie Windsor) I find it funny that none of the liberals wonder if a lesbian justice should have recused herself in this case

I don't know, should ALL the justices recuse themselves.from tax cases? Seeins how they all.pay taxes?

Should a christian or catholic recuse themselves.from the prop 8 case?
 
Are you disputing it?

When has same sex parenting ever been a societal norm?

Futurity.org – Survey: How kids of same-sex parents fare as adults



this study, funded by two conservative organizations, has been criticized roundly by social scientists ... it's seriously flawed ... in any event, why ignore the bulk of studies that arrve at the conclusion that the kids turn out pretty much the same regardless?

Also, did you know that the vast majority of gays are products of straight marriages?
 
What utter stupidity...

Kids with Lesbian Parents May Do Better Than Their Peers - TIME



Steve Forbes father was gay, Mary Shelly (who gave us Frankenstein) was the daughter of a gay woman, Rene Russo was raised by her gay mother... What kids need and want is love and acceptance, they don't give a crap if it comes from one man and one woman, or one man, or one woman or two women or two men...

So where does it stay anything related to what I was talking about. Sorry, but I couldn't find it. :shrug:
 
I don't know, should ALL the justices recuse themselves.from tax cases? Seeins how they all.pay taxes?

Should a christian or catholic recuse themselves.from the prop 8 case?

well all of them live off our tax dollars:mrgreen:

I want some agnostics or at least Protestants on the court!!
 
Also, did you know that the vast majority of gays are products of straight marriages?
Source please. With a 50% divorce rate and a rising never-married coupling rate, I'm not inclined to believe that on it's face.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103235/Most-children-U-S-born-wedlock.html

At a glance it would seem that most gays are the result of hetero never-married couple who quickly brake up (because that's where most children come from), not marriages. What gives you the impression that gays are more often born from stable marriages than never-married couples? Is there something about being married which makes a woman more likely to have a gay child? Give a link to that study also, please.

Also, how many heteros came from gay marriages?
 
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With the ignorant **** you post around this forum I don't believe you're a lawyer for one second. Not one fleeting instant.

I don't really care what you believe, but your post about escheats to the state was pure foolishness, which is what one expects for conservatives.

Honestly, when you are totally ignorant about a topic resist the urge to hit the enter button.
 
I don't really care what you believe, but your post about escheats to the state was pure foolishness, which is what one expects for conservatives.

Honestly, when you are totally ignorant about a topic resist the urge to hit the enter button.
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Source please. With a 50% divorce rate and a rising never-married coupling rate, I'm not inclined to believe that on it's face.

Most children in U.S. born out of wedlock | Mail Online

At a glance it would seem that most gays are the result of hetero never-married couple who quickly brake up (because that's where most children come from), not marriages. What gives you the impression that gays are more often born from stable marriages than never-married couples? Is there something about being married which makes a woman more likely to have a gay child? Give a link to that study also, please.

Also, how many heteros came from gay marriages?

More ignorance.

The etiology of same gender preference remains unknown. The current theory is that it has a genetic component, plus later born boys also have a higher incidence of homosexuality (probably because of in utero changes that can be explained from an evolutionary perspective)

As to gay men having children, there are ample studies on this going back historically and gay men have alway had children, though at a rate that is less than heterosexual males.

Get with it man.
 
Oh you thought I was quoting from Loving? No. I use the quote box, change the text color and font, and provide a link when I quote something. What you read was in regular text, which means those were my words, not SCOTUS's words. It's just my opinion, based on my reading of the ruling and how SCOTUS arrived at their decision. I never represented it as anything else.

The forum member What If made a random comment, I gave an opinion, you disagreed, and life went on. That's all that happened.

So . . . you just made it up. OK.

If you didn't, show in the case where what you said is supported.
 
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