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Ted Cruz Amendment To Repeal Obamacare Fails

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The Senate on Friday rejected an effort by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) to repeal Obamacare, an outcome that was expected but is far from the last attempt by Republicans to dismantle President Barack Obama's signature accomplishment.
Cruz's amendment to the Democratic budget resolution failed 45 to 54. Sen. Angus King (I-Maine) voted "no" with the Democrats.

The amendment sought to “establish a deficit-neutral reserve fund to provide for the repeal of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010.”


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Please.. Just please stop already..
 
Were all gong to be ****ed because the ACA is soo draconian!

...or because it doesn't actually lower costs of providing care OR coverage and instead relies on non-existent tax revenues and "savings" from defunding Medicare.

But hey!! It's TOTALLY worth even more debt spending to demand that people buy health insurance.
 
That's right. Obamacare is designed to fail and it's going to do just that.

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Haha ohh please explain. Why pass a bill that is designed to fail. Are we getting into some conspiracy mumbo jumbo? Just admit it some of the right still dont accept that fact that the ACA is constitutional, and still believe in the draconian bull**** such as the death panels, that the gov is taking over healthcare, that its "socialist", oh and its "designed to fail".
 
Of course it is :roll:

Dodge noted

That's why all the real pain purposely isn't going to kick in until 2014, AFTER the election. If it's this wonderful utopia that regressives like you actually believe, they wouldn't have delayed implementation.

Study: Obamacare threatens 3.2 million small business jobs | WashingtonExaminer.com

Over one-third of the 9.1 million full-time jobs among America's diverse business franchises could be cut back or eliminated by Obamacare as small businesses struggle to maintain profitability while coughing up money to pay for Washington-mandated health care coverage, according to the International Franchise Association.

The threat of hitting 3.2 million full-time workers as the Affordable Care Act takes effect next year is prompting the owners of fast food restaurants, service companies and other franchises to urge Congress to make significant changes in Obamacare.

Even the NYT is finally reporting what a disaster this is. They knew this before Democrats rammed it through with shady reconciliation tactics against the will of the public, but they are far left wing biased propaganda outlet. This is always how the authoritarian tyrants on the left sell their snake oil. They "care" more than anyone else. "Free HC for all". If you don't believe in UHC you want little kids to die, ect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/b...loyees-confronts-the-new-health-care-law.html

THE CHALLENGE The company is one of thousands of small businesses that employ more than 50 full-time employees and thus will be required to offer health insurance to their workers — or pay into a government fund — beginning Jan. 1. Rachel Shein and Steve Pilarski, the married owners of the bakery, which employs 95 people, estimate this could cost their business up to $108,000, and they are weighing their options as the date approaches. “Our revenues are about $8 million, but the food business is a low-margin industry so cutting $108,000 out of our profits, which are just over $200,000, is a big deal,” said Ms. Shein, who is the chief executive. They are evaluating different ways to comply with the new law and finance the expense.

You don't care if people lose their jobs and their dignity.

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Haha ohh please explain. Why pass a bill that is designed to fail. Are we getting into some conspiracy mumbo jumbo? Just admit it some of the right still dont accept that fact that the ACA is constitutional, and still believe in the draconian bull**** such as the death panels, that the gov is taking over healthcare, that its "socialist", oh and its "designed to fail".

Idiotic utopians never believe their centrally planned schemes will fail. Rationing costs and care is going to happen. Those are just the facts. Not our problem your radical ideology won't accept reality.
 
Dodge noted

That's why all the real pain purposely isn't going to kick in until 2014, AFTER the election. If it's this wonderful utopia that regressives like you actually believe, they wouldn't have delayed implementation.

Study: Obamacare threatens 3.2 million small business jobs | WashingtonExaminer.com


Even the NYT is finally reporting what a disaster this is. They knew this before Democrats rammed it through with shady reconciliation tactics against the will of the public, but they are far left wing biased propaganda outlet. This is always how the authoritarian tyrants on the left sell their snake oil. They "care" more than anyone else. "Free HC for all". If you don't believe in UHC you want little kids to die, ect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/21/b...loyees-confronts-the-new-health-care-law.html



You don't care if people lose their jobs and their dignity.

The job killing falsehoods again?
Even Michelle Bachmans numbers were a lot smaller and turned out to be a lie as well.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...e-bachmann-says-obamacare-will-kill-800000-j/
PolitiFact | U.S. Chamber of Commerce ad attacking Tim Kaine says health care law 'will kill jobs across America'
FactCheck.org : GOP’s ‘Job-Killing’ Whopper, Again
 

You're bringing up Bachman and factcheck.org links from a year ago?

How embarrassing. I rest my case.
 
You're bringing up Bachman and factcheck.org links from a year ago?

How embarrassing. I rest my case.

Well saying these claims have been made over and over again but these "studies" i see no need to why a year old fact check is a "bad source".
 

It sounds to me as if about half the bakery's employees will lose their jobs. The small corporation which employs one of my kids has cut many employees' hours because it can't afford to pay for their benefits. This isn't a good thing.
 
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Haha ohh please explain. Why pass a bill that is designed to fail. Are we getting into some conspiracy mumbo jumbo? Just admit it some of the right still dont accept that fact that the ACA is constitutional, and still believe in the draconian bull**** such as the death panels, that the gov is taking over healthcare, that its "socialist", oh and its "designed to fail".

Insruance rates are going up, not down.

We're not allowed to keep our policies, as we were told by The Messiah.

If you own two businesses and each has 30 employees, they'll be added together, forcing you to provide government mandated health insurance for you employees.

Thousands of full-time employees are losing their hours, so they're considered part time.

Yeah, it's working GREAT!!
 
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People are going to be begging for repeal when the real pain comes in 2014

Obamacare is a an absolute disaster

Considering the fact this amendment has no chance of passing its just a waste of time and nothing more than attempt to make voters think they want to repeal Obamacare.Its like with the Brady Bill.Republicans had plenty of chances After Bush was president to repeal it,they did not.
 
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Haha ohh please explain. Why pass a bill that is designed to fail. Are we getting into some conspiracy mumbo jumbo? Just admit it some of the right still dont accept that fact that the ACA is constitutional, and still believe in the draconian bull**** such as the death panels, that the gov is taking over healthcare, that its "socialist", oh and its "designed to fail".

Im not sure I would consider myself on the right but I am one that feels that ACA is unconstitutional regardless of what the supreme court ruled. Then again I believe the SC has been wrong in many instances threw out our history. As far as "death panels", they already exist both in the public sector and private sector health industries. Im not sure the ACA would be instituting any new ones but we already have them. Unless you have coverage that will cover absolutely everything including experimental treatments then someone has made the decision not to cover the treatment even in cases of terminal illnesses. My father who is on medicaid and suffers serious heart disease whose cardiologist strongly recommends a heart transplant is denied by the state. His cardiologist says he is being denied for a many reasons including, age, overall health, is a heavy smoker. It simply is not worth it to the state to spend close to a million dollars on his a transplant at this time. Someone makes that decision and that is what some call "death panels".

As far as the effectiveness of the ACA I think it is still being decided and may take many many years for it to fully play out. My feeling is that it will not be nearly as effective or cheap as lawmakers promoted it and will only further add to our national debt. I hope I am wrong I really do hope that our health care improves with it but I dont hold a lot of faith.
 
If it was a complete disaster more senators would have voted for Ted Cruz's amendment.

But then they would have to admit that they were an idiot to have voted for Obamacare in the first place.
 
Rand Paul and cruz should get together and write a book about how to spend a lot of time and effort doing nothing. They could actually get all of congress involved in it, but they seem to be the present experts in it. If you were a manger at a real job and one of your employees came up and bragged to you that they tried to do the same thing and failed for the 100th time you would fire their asses. instead republicans cheer them for failure. I am pretty sure that the economic problems from obamacare are at this point going to come from wasted legislation attempts and court challenges.
 
Rand Paul and cruz should get together and write a book about how to spend a lot of time and effort doing nothing.
They could actually get all of congress involved in it, but they seem to be the present experts in it. If you were a manger at a real job and one of your employees came up and bragged to you that they tried to do the same thing and failed for the 100th time you would
fire their asses.
instead republicans cheer them for failure. I am pretty sure that the economic problems from obamacare are at this point going to come from wasted legislation attempts and court challenges.
... we'll see how nothing it was next year when the Obamacare fit hits the shan juuuust in time for the mid-term elections. Now everyone is on record and you'll see some asses getting fired then.
 
... we'll see how nothing it was next year when the Obamacare fit hits the shan juuuust in time for the mid-term elections. Now everyone is on record and you'll see some asses getting fired then.

Yes, no one really knows the full extent of Obama Care and will not until it is fully implemented in January of 2014. Then it does give the voters 10 months to see how Obama Care effects then. But I heard there has been some slippage to it. So it may not be fully implemented on schedule. I agree, time will tell. On these things, I would wage Obama Care is not near the panacea the Democrats say it is and not nearly as bad as the republicans are saying. The truth will be somewhere in the middle.
 
Yes, no one really knows the full extent of Obama Care and will not until it is fully implemented in January of 2014. Then it does give the voters 10 months to see how Obama Care effects then. But I heard there has been some slippage to it. So it may not be fully implemented on schedule. I agree, time will tell. On these things, I would wage Obama Care is not near the panacea the Democrats say it is and not nearly as bad as the republicans are saying. The truth will be somewhere in the middle.
Well one thing for certain is that the promises made will be promises broken.
Which is not to say that they aren't ready with a whole bunch of "yeah buts".
Like for the "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" line they're ready with "Yeah, but your doctor gave up his practice...who knew... not our fault."
 
Yes, no one really knows the full extent of Obama Care and will not until it is fully implemented in January of 2014. Then it does give the voters 10 months to see how Obama Care effects then. But I heard there has been some slippage to it. So it may not be fully implemented on schedule. I agree, time will tell. On these things, I would wage Obama Care is not near the panacea the Democrats say it is and not nearly as bad as the republicans are saying. The truth will be somewhere in the middle.

I can think of several things that are in the middle that are good ... gotta go Pero ... have a good one ...
 
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