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TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report

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TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report - Washington Times

Security Administration inspectors forced a wounded Marine who lost both of his legs in an IED blast and who was in a wheelchair to remove his prosthetic legs at one point, and at another point to stand painfully on his legs while his wheelchair was examined, according to a complaint a congressman has registered with the TSA.

Rep. Duncan Hunter said in his letter Monday that the Marine, who is still on active duty and showed TSA agents his military identification, was still forced to undergo that scrutiny.

“A TSA office asked the Marine to stand and walk to an alternate area, despite the fact that he physically could not stand or walk on his own. With numerous TSA officers sitting and unwilling to assist, an officer then made him remove his legs, then put them back on, only to advance to a secondary screening location where he was asked again to stand, with extraordinary difficult, while his wheelchair was examined for explosives,” Mr. Hunter said.

He also said TSA officers initially directed the Marine to the wrong line, then made him move lines but made no effort to help him. The incident occurred at Phoenix’s Sky Harbor airport last week, as a group of Marines was returning to San Diego
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TSA draws attention for amputees’ screening - Abstract

I can't imagine what the hell these people were thinking, especially not stepping up to help this guy stand and so forth!!
 
I bet hes wondering exactly what the hell he sacrificed his legs for right about now. Sorta seems like the terrorists won in the end to me. But that's just a personal opinion.
 
American said:
TSA agents 'humiliated' wounded Marine with aggressive inspection: report - Washington Times



TSA draws attention for amputees’ screening - Abstract

I can't imagine what the hell these people were thinking, especially not stepping up to help this guy stand and so forth!!
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There is no excuse for not treating this soldier with the utmost respect. They should be fired. When, to protect everyone's safety, people are treated as criminals, we've missed the boat. Shame on 'em.
 
The TSA may still proudly brag that not once has a double amputee, active duty, US service member been allowed to hinder the operation of a commercial airliner! How long before these probing, prodding TSA morons are made into a mere mistake of past history?
 
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It will probably never go back. As soon as average Joe and the flight companies will it that way the CIA/SS would probably just run a heavy airplane sabotage campaign until it reverted. :S

Warmachine, CIA, Wallstreet, News Tycoons, Top 1%. Same thing different words.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Maybe if he had a couple of pocket knives and a hockey stick they would have waived him through under the new rules.
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Or maybe a Koran.
 
I'm really not sure why this is shocking to anybody. It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America and a wounded vet is exponentially more likely to have PTSD thus becoming an even bigger threat. Have you all forgotten that the schmucks that are running this show are the same ones who spit on men returning from Viet Nam?
 
Lutherf said:
I'm really not sure why this is shocking to anybody. It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America and a wounded vet is exponentially more likely to have PTSD thus becoming an even bigger threat. Have you all forgotten that the schmucks that are running this show are the same ones who spit on men returning from Viet Nam?
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What happened to this hero is awful, but that doesn't give you the right to make up crap. Simply pointing out that vets can have PTSD isn't the same as calling them the primary threat to america.
 
roughdraft274 said:
What happened to this hero is awful, but that doesn't give you the right to make up crap. Simply pointing out that vets can have PTSD isn't the same as calling them the primary threat to america.
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Are you unaware that DHS has issued multiple memos citing military affiliation as a primary factor when looking for threats?

It might take a second to load but try this - http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf and if you don't feel like browsing the whole thing just skip to page 7 of the report which is 8 of the PDF.
 
Lutherf said:
I'm really not sure why this is shocking to anybody. It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America and a wounded vet is exponentially more likely to have PTSD thus becoming an even bigger threat. Have you all forgotten that the schmucks that are running this show are the same ones who spit on men returning from Viet Nam?
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Its kinda funny and kinda say how when "going in" military are honored. But culture is swinging more and more to fear military after they are "coming out". People willing to sign off for 4 years fresh = fanfare and celebrations. People that have seen the war with their own eyes = be scared of that dude. He might be a terrorist.
 
Whenever the TSA comes into question, my train of thought goes like this:

First: The reason it was made:

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Then the justification:
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And then, the result:

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a contrarian perspective:
the TSA screener has a duty to assure that every passenger who gets a pass is absolutely not going to present a danger to the flight
these screeners are constantly tested with artificial threats to see if they make accurate assessments
in that light, there was only one way to determine that the passenger was not in possession of dangerous devices. a thorough check was made
that the passenger was a marine should not cause the screener to perform his duty any differently
that the passenger has physical impairments should not cause the screener to do his duty any differently

what many view as disrespect of an injured marine i see as a diligent federal employee performing his duties as they have been assigned. if men in uniform should get a free pass, then make that happen. it will lighten the load of the screeners
 
justabubba said:
a contrarian perspective:
the TSA screener has a duty to assure that every passenger who gets a pass is absolutely not going to present a danger to the flight
these screeners are constantly tested with artificial threats to see if they make accurate assessments
in that light, there was only one way to determine that the passenger was not in possession of dangerous devices. a thorough check was made
that the passenger was a marine should not cause the screener to perform his duty any differently
that the passenger has physical impairments should not cause the screener to do his duty any differently

what many view as disrespect of an injured marine i see as a diligent federal employee performing his duties as they have been assigned. if men in uniform should get a free pass, then make that happen. it will lighten the load of the screeners
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You would, while other TSA agents sat around and didn't even get up to help this man through the process. They didn't care that he could hardly stand up, and then in pain no less. I see how you feel about this marine.
 
Are people mad because a person was treated this way or because a marine was treated this way?
 
Rainman05 said:
Whenever the TSA comes into question, my train of thought goes like this:

First: The reason it was made:

hhgff-meme-generator-the-theory-of-communism-may-be-summed-up-in-one-sentence-abolish-all-private-property-ac99f41.png


Then the justification:
tsa-meme.jpg


And then, the result:

3rtaxc.jpg
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What does airport security have to do with abolishing private property? They inspected the wheelchair, they didn't confiscate it for the motherland.
 
Lutherf said:
Are you unaware that DHS has issued multiple memos citing military affiliation as a primary factor when looking for threats?

It might take a second to load but try this - http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf and if you don't feel like browsing the whole thing just skip to page 7 of the report which is 8 of the PDF.
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I'm very aware of that memo. I read it back when it was first published. But in no way does it ever say, as you claimed, "It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America" That's just crazy talk. It only points out that it can be linked to some forms of extremism, it points out that extremist groups look at recruiting military members because of they're knowledge of war and military tactics etc, .

Your assertion that they are being labeled a "primary threat" is unfounded. One memo that mentions it does not back up your crazy claim.
 
justabubba said:
a contrarian perspective:
the TSA screener has a duty to assure that every passenger who gets a pass is absolutely not going to present a danger to the flight
these screeners are constantly tested with artificial threats to see if they make accurate assessments
in that light, there was only one way to determine that the passenger was not in possession of dangerous devices. a thorough check was made
that the passenger was a marine should not cause the screener to perform his duty any differently
that the passenger has physical impairments should not cause the screener to do his duty any differently

what many view as disrespect of an injured marine i see as a diligent federal employee performing his duties as they have been assigned. if men in uniform should get a pass, then make that happen. it will lighten the load of the screeners
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And the TSA screeners routinely fail, seemingly through the absence of common sense.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I'm very aware of that memo. I read it back when it was first published. But in no way does it ever say, as you claimed, "It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America" That's just crazy talk. It only points out that it can be linked to some forms of extremism, it points out that extremist groups look at recruiting military members because of they're knowledge of war and military tactics etc, .

Your assertion that they are being labeled a "primary threat" is unfounded. One memo that mentions it does not back up your crazy claim.
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The original claim that veterans are a primary threat was made by Big Sis herself and, to the best of my knowledge, she has never retracted it.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I'm very aware of that memo. I read it back when it was first published. But in no way does it ever say, as you claimed, "It's been YEARS now that DHS has considered veterans to be a primary threat to America" That's just crazy talk. It only points out that it can be linked to some forms of extremism, it points out that extremist groups look at recruiting military members because of they're knowledge of war and military tactics etc, .

Your assertion that they are being labeled a "primary threat" is unfounded. One memo that mentions it does not back up your crazy claim.
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Really?

From the first damned page of the report -
The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremistscapable of carrying out violent attacks.
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How much more "primary" would you like to see?
 
If all this is true that is simply gross and pathetic.

I have no problem with the TSA but i do have a problem with some of the piss poor agents that work for them and don't know their head for the asshole.
 
Lutherf said:
Really?

From the first damned page of the report -


How much more "primary" would you like to see?
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It's only pointing out that it's a possibility. Are you arguing that it's impossible? No where does it argue they are a primary threat. It only mentions that it's something to look out for, and it gives past examples of it happening.
 
Diogenes said:
The original claim that veterans are a primary threat was made by Big Sis herself and, to the best of my knowledge, she has never retracted it.
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This was a report that began under the Bush administration before Janet Napolitano even served as HSS. The best of your knowledge isn't very good apparently. At no point has she ever called them a primary threat. Please source a direct quote if you'd like to continue that argument.
 
roughdraft274 said:
It's only pointing out that it's a possibility. Are you arguing that it's impossible? No where does it argue they are a primary threat. It only mentions that it's something to look out for, and it gives past examples of it happening.
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It's possible for a terrorist attack to come from pretty much anywhere including left wing loons who decide to bomb police stations and the Pentagon....but I notice that such groups are not part of Madame Janet's memo.
 
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