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House GOP Unveils Blueprint To Slash Medicaid, Medicare And Repeal Obamacare

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Paul Ryan rolled out his latest budget proposal, offering an ambitious blueprint that promises to balance the budget in a decade by repealing President Barack Obama's health care reforms and slashing Medicare, Medicaid and programs to help the poor.


Paul Ryan Budget: House GOP Unveils Blueprint To Slash Medicaid, Medicare And Repeal Obamacare

Who does this fool think he is kidding? He is a lamestream impotent republican. Never had a real job his entire life. Was the recipient of Social Security Funds since his childhood. Has been sucking off th gov't, in one way or another, since that time. When will be stop being a maker and not a taker?
 
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Yep. Obama has a better plan; just keep on borrowing and spending, since we need more income redistribution. :roll:
 
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I realize it's a difficult concept to grasp, but we need to be fiscally solvent in order to insure that we can even survive. Since over half the budget goes for social welfare programs, in one form or another, it's logical to make some cuts there.
 
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lizzie said:
I realize it's a difficult concept to grasp, but we need to be fiscally solvent in order to insure that we can even survive. Since over half the budget goes for social welfare programs, in one form or another, it's logical to make some cuts there.
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Do you know that over $60 billion in cash that went to Iraq is unaccounted for? Why do you thnk it is OK to fund wefare for Iraqis and Afghans and not real Americans?
 
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66gardeners said:
Do you know that over $60 billion in cash that went to Iraq is unaccounted for? Why do you thnk it is OK to fund wefare for Iraqis and Afghans and not real Americans?
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I didn't support either of these military actions, but at least defense and warfare are constitutional expenditures. As for nation-building, I am adamantly opposed to it.
 
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lizzie said:
I realize it's a difficult concept to grasp, but we need to be fiscally solvent in order to insure that we can even survive. Since over half the budget goes for social welfare programs, in one form or another, it's logical to make some cuts there.
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With over $1 Trillion in "welfare" checks made out to the Defense Department for their pet projects like Aircraft Carriers and Missiles destined to be fired nowhere, I know of a far better place to start.
 
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calamity said:
With over $1 Trillion in "welfare" checks made out to the Defense Department for their pet projects like Aircraft Carriers and Missiles destined to be fired nowhere, I know of a far better place to start.
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We've already started there, in case you missed it.
 
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calamity said:
Hardly. The "Sequester" split 109 Billion in cuts 50/50 between military and non-military. So, $54.5B makes hardly a dent in the total military budget.
How the Across-the-Board Cuts in the Budget Control Act Will Work — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

The real question should be why we need to spend half our budget on defense when no one is even threatening us. :roll:
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"Two decades later, America is entering another round of deep defense cuts. As Washington debates "sequestration'' — automatic budget cuts that threaten to slash $600 billion from the Pentagon budget by 2023, beginning March 1 — the defense industry, and cities that depend on it, know sequestration isn't even half the problem.

Add in another $487 billion, 10-year defense cut in 2011's debt-ceiling legislation. The end of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan mean the separate budget for that, once $160 billion annually, now $88.5 billion, will wind down, too. Altogether, a budget that peaked at $716.3 billion in 2012 has dropped to a requested $701.8 billion this year and is set to hit $589 billion by 2014.

It could go much lower with sequestration, although still well above the $294 billion spent in 2000. That's about $392 billion in today's dollars."
Defense budget cuts hit businesses, localities
 
66gardeners said:
Paul Ryan rolled out his latest budget proposal, offering an ambitious blueprint that promises to balance the budget in a decade by repealing President Barack Obama's health care reforms and slashing Medicare, Medicaid and programs to help the poor.


Paul Ryan Budget: House GOP Unveils Blueprint To Slash Medicaid, Medicare And Repeal Obamacare

Who does this fool think he is kidding? He is a lamestream impotent republican. Never had a real job his entire life. Was the recipient of Social Security Funds since his childhood. Has been sucking off th gov't, in one way or another, since that time. When will be stop being a maker and not a taker?
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Where is the Democrats' effort to balane the budget in x-number of years? Oh, I forgot, they're too chicken-**** to put one out there. Oh, wait! I forgot again! They're putting one out there that will raise taxes by $1 trillion and never balance the budget. Oops. Senate Democrats prepare to roll out budget blueprint - The Washington Post
 
looks like both sides have set the goalposts far enough apart that there won't be much common ground. as per usual.

go team; rah, rah, whoopty ****.
 
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Where is the Democrats' effort to balane the budget in x-number of years? Oh, I forgot, they're too chicken-**** to put one out there. Oh, wait! I forgot again! They're putting one out there that will raise taxes by $1 trillion and never balance the budget. Oops. Senate Democrats prepare to roll out budget blueprint - The Washington Post
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A balanced budget is a pipe dream: great in a theoretical sense, but too impractical to implement and would cost too much.

Dogmatic principles don't help one iota if you do not have the ability to think practically.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Yep. Obama has a better plan; just keep on borrowing and spending, since we need more income redistribution. :roll:
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Obama hasn't borrowed or spent anything. Congress controls the money, they're the ones doing the borrow and spend thing
 
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BMCM said:
Obama hasn't borrowed or spent anything. Congress controls the money, they're the ones doing the borrow and spend thing
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Technically true, yet it is all subject to veto. Should we just ignore those Obama promises to cut the deficit in half, or that Obama will go "line by line" through the budget and remove waste and duplication? Our most transparent administration sure seems to have lots of backroom deals. ;)
 
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66gardeners said:
Do you know that over $60 billion in cash that went to Iraq is unaccounted for? Why do you thnk it is OK to fund wefare for Iraqis and Afghans and not real Americans?
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calamity said:
Hardly. The "Sequester" split 109 Billion in cuts 50/50 between military and non-military. So, $54.5B makes hardly a dent in the total military budget.
How the Across-the-Board Cuts in the Budget Control Act Will Work — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

The real question should be why we need to spend half our budget on defense when no one is even threatening us. :roll:
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It does not matter how much we spend or on what, it only matters how much we spend that we have to borrow. Growing budget deficits are destroying long-term GDP growth whether we spend the borrowed money on a tank or an oxygen tank or a fish tank.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Technically true, yet it is all subject to veto. Should we just ignore those Obama promises to cut the deficit in half, or that Obama will go "line by line" through the budget and remove waste and duplication? Our most transparent administration sure seems to have lots of backroom deals. ;)
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here's how I look at politicians, half of what they say is outright lies, the other half is just vote getting gimmicks. Action's are what count.
Why would he veto what he wants. He asked for it, Congress gave it to him. They could have just as easily said no.
 
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BMCM said:
here's how I look at politicians, half of what they say is outright lies, the other half is just vote getting gimmicks. Action's are what count.
Why would he veto what he wants. He asked for it, Congress gave it to him. They could have just as easily said no.
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How does the bolded above square with your assertion below? :roll:

"Obama hasn't borrowed or spent anything. Congress controls the money, they're the ones doing the borrow and spend thing."

If Obama is getting what he wants then that is the "Obama economy" - huge annual federal deficits.
 
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lizzie said:
"Two decades later, America is entering another round of deep defense cuts. As Washington debates "sequestration'' — automatic budget cuts that threaten to slash $600 billion from the Pentagon budget by 2023, beginning March 1 — the defense industry, and cities that depend on it, know sequestration isn't even half the problem.

Add in another $487 billion, 10-year defense cut in 2011's debt-ceiling legislation. The end of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan mean the separate budget for that, once $160 billion annually, now $88.5 billion, will wind down, too. Altogether, a budget that peaked at $716.3 billion in 2012 has dropped to a requested $701.8 billion this year and is set to hit $589 billion by 2014.

It could go much lower with sequestration, although still well above the $294 billion spent in 2000. That's about $392 billion in today's dollars."
Defense budget cuts hit businesses, localities
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For the only year that really matters: 2013.
Military budget of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Total Spending $1.030–$1.415 trillion
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
A balanced budget is a pipe dream: great in a theoretical sense, but too impractical to implement and would cost too much.

Dogmatic principles don't help one iota if you do not have the ability to think practically.
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Not a pipe dream, just not easy. Going in the wrong direction for decades can not be fixed by stepping on the gas. It took me 5 1/2 years to get out of debt, more than the individual tax burden on each of us. And I did it without printing any money. There is a big difference between "can't" and "won't", a difference that is defined by responsibility and discipline, neither of which our government has a clue about. I have no respect for the willfully weak and irresponsible.
 
Oh look, more of the same from Republicans. Make life harder for the poor, and don't you dare tax the rich. Americans don't want a country that is split so drastically between rich and poor. It's time the Republican party got out from under their rock. Or they can get left behind.
 
It would be nice if the Democrats could just put their plan on the table next to the Republican plan so we could compare actual data...
 
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BMCM said:
Obama hasn't borrowed or spent anything. Congress controls the money, they're the ones doing the borrow and spend thing
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You have that backwards.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
How does the bolded above square with your assertion below? :roll:

"Obama hasn't borrowed or spent anything. Congress controls the money, they're the ones doing the borrow and spend thing."

If Obama is getting what he wants then that is the "Obama economy" - huge annual federal deficits.
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I never said he was blameless just that Congress is as much if not more to blame. They gave him what he asked for.
 
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BMCM said:
I never said he was blameless just that Congress is as much if not more to blame. They gave him what he asked for.
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Elect more republicants to congress in 2014 and that nonsense will no longer happen. ;)
 
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