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Kid's Purim Costume : The Burning Twin Towers [W:44]

What about for Halloween, when people are supposed to dress up like evil, yucky things? Is a KKK hood for Halloween also in bad taste?

lol @ anyone actually trying to defend this.
 
lol @ anyone actually trying to defend this.

Dressing up as pretty much anything is not a moral crime. I cannot think of a costume that constitutes a moral crime. What about Mel Brooks?
 
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Dressing up as pretty much anything is not a moral crime. I cannot think of a costume that constitutes a moral crime. What about Mel Brooks?

are these kids Mel Brooks? I doubt they are old enough to be offering some type of intelligent commentary on the events of 9/11, and we both know you're just reflexively trying to defend them, like Goshin, because they are Israeli.

Rather hilarious stuff, to be honest
 
are these kids Mel Brooks?

I was referring to this:

yes, even if they are unwritten ones. If you are a royal or someone who people look up to, etc. you do not dress up like a war criminal/murderer/nazi.

And even if you are not famous, it is still morally wrong to dress up like a nazi imho.
 
if someone posts anti-semitic material here, I would think/hope they would get banned before they can utter more insensitive BS.

People are free here to indulge in Holocaust denial, indulge in any conspiracy theory they wish that blames Jews for things they did not do, support the aims of a group like Hamas committed to genocide against them, say they control Hollywood and want people in Hollywood killed, or further any of the endless canards in regards to their manipulativeness, secretiveness, and diabolical self-interest.

and this they do hundreds and hundreds of times over.
 
People are free here to indulge in Holocaust denial, indulge in any conspiracy theory they wish that blames Jews for things they did not do, support the aims of a group like Hamas committed to genocide against them, say they control Hollywood and want people in Hollywood killed, or further any of the endless canards in regards to their manipulativeness, secretiveness, and diabolical self-interest.

and this they do hundreds and hundreds of times over.

Don't forget the USS Liberty, apartheid, and all those other juicy loads of BS directed at Jews anytime some Jew-hater can get in a post outside the Mideast subforum (and thus those additional rules). For example: wanna demonize Jews as celebrating 9/11 as a victory over the US? Just post an "evil Mossad Jew costume" in Breaking News, because some evil Mossad Jew kids (or possibly very short agents) wearing a costume is definately Breaking News.
 
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are these kids Mel Brooks? I doubt they are old enough to be offering some type of intelligent commentary on the events of 9/11, and we both know you're just reflexively trying to defend them, like Goshin, because they are Israeli.

Rather hilarious stuff, to be honest

I think the costumes are in bad taste and there is certainly an element among Israelis that I find quite objectionable like the hard-line settlers/Eratz Israel tpes, but the defense stems more from the relentless attacks on Israel and Jews on his board than it does anything else. Its usually a case of anybody who dares stand up to all the Jew haters around here who gets maligned instead of the bigots. It has become so damn politically correct to be antisemitic that people who are not become their targets, too.

Tell me, though -- if a poster arrived who did nothing else than single out black people, constantly dredged up dialogue that they were stupid, thuggish, and out to breed with white girls, used stupid youtube videos by the KKK, and was obsessed with trying to portray them in the most negative light possible, would you have the same reaction? Why should it be any different with Jewish people other than the fact people consider the hatred of his small ethnicity so acceptable?
 
Meh. Idiotic parents. They're everywhere. They probably thought it was a good idea at the time. Some people are just too stupid to have any foresight whatsoever.
 
I think the costumes are in bad taste

That's the only comment this thread deserves, G. You should have left it at that. All you're doing is giving it more importance than it deserves. You're giving the OP exactly what he wants by making it about the "evil Jews". Don't play his game. This is about bad parenting decisions, no matter what the OP's intentions actually were. He's playing you all like a fiddle. Just sayin..
 
This is about bad parenting decisions, no matter what the OP's intentions actually were. He's playing you all like a fiddle. Just sayin..

I disagree. Confronting BS posts/thread OPs and exposing them for what they are is the best course of action.
 
are these kids Mel Brooks? I doubt they are old enough to be offering some type of intelligent commentary on the events of 9/11, and we both know you're just reflexively trying to defend them, like Goshin, because they are Israeli.

Rather hilarious stuff, to be honest

The OP is a clear anti-semite. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with them will find it hard to argue otherwise. But that is a pretty piss poor reason to try and justify this costume , which is what some posters have done here
 
In some cases, yes. I would do it too. This one? Not so much. Make it about what it really is and not what the OP would like it to be.

It's about what it's about. Ignoring things doesn't change that.
 
Tell me, though -- if a poster arrived who did nothing else than single out black people, constantly dredged up dialogue that they were stupid, thuggish, and out to breed with white girls, used stupid youtube videos by the KKK, and was obsessed with trying to portray them in the most negative light possible, would you have the same reaction? Why should it be any different with Jewish people other than the fact people consider the hatred of his small ethnicity so acceptable?

First of all, I never implied that anti semitism was reasonable. So save the accusations and race huckstering. Second, my remarks clearly concerned the people trying to justify the costumes because the story concerned Israelis. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the views of the OP and is certainly not justified by them.
 
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That's the only comment this thread deserves, G. You should have left it at that. All you're doing is giving it more importance than it deserves. You're giving the OP exactly what he wants by making it about the "evil Jews". Don't play his game. This is about bad parenting decisions, no matter what the OP's intentions actually were. He's playing you all like a fiddle. Just sayin..

I consider antisemitism important rather than unimportant because of the relationship between rhetoric and action. If there is ANY lesson the Holocaust should teach us, it is that when a small minority is sytematically demonized and a population grows to accept such demonization as normal, some very real harm can come to the minority population -- in the case of Jews, to the tune of 6 million dead. I value the lives of people more than I do the sort of political correctness that demands I remain silent and look the other way.
 
First of all, I never implied that anti semitism was reasonable. So save the accusations and race huckstering. Second, my remarks clearly concerned the people trying to justify the costumes because the story concerned Israelis. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the views of the OP and is certainly not justified by them.

What you did was make a choice, Dr C. In a thread designed by one with a clear agenda to demonize Jews, you chose to comment on those who you view as overly zealous by way of defense rather than the more malignant and hateful zealotry of the OP. This is not "race huckstering", but simply noting the choice you made. Since it was your choice, one can only assume you found it more important to comment on the reaction to the demonization than the demonization, itself.
 
my remarks clearly concerned the people trying to justify the costumes because the story concerned Israelis.

That's BS. I'd defend any constume regardless of who wears it. Costumes are not, in and of themselves, immoral or unethical.

Someone wants to dress up as a nazi, KKK man or Evil Jesus for Halloween? I couldn't give a **** and neither should you.
 
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What you did was make a choice, Dr C.

Yes, I chose to point out how stupid it was to try and justify the costume, due to supporting israel

In a thread designed by one with a clear agenda to demonize Jews, you chose to comment on those who you view as overly zealous by way of defense rather than the more malignant and hateful zealotry of the OP. This is not "race huckstering", but simply noting the choice you made.

Overly zealous? The entire line of reasoning is completely moronic. Nothing about the OP being a bigot requires people to defend a tasteless costume.

Since it was your choice, one can only assume you found it more important to comment on the reaction to the demonization than the demonization, itself.

Yes, I'm sure old joe McCarthy followed similar lines of ill logic
 
I consider antisemitism important rather than unimportant because of the relationship between rhetoric and action. If there is ANY lesson the Holocaust should teach us, it is that when a small minority is sytematically demonized and a population grows to accept such demonization as normal, some very real harm can come to the minority population -- in the case of Jews, to the tune of 6 million dead. I value the lives of people more than I do the sort of political correctness that demands I remain silent and look the other way.

I won't argue any of that. I speak against any sort of discrimination whenever I see it too. In this thread, I'm more worried about the welfare of those kids in the OP. They're being raised by idiots. If and when the OP comes back and makes clear disparaging comments against the Jewish people, I probably will join you in blasting him. Until then... stupid, stupid parents who should really know better.
 
Purim has begun, and just like with Halloween, children around the world are proudly parading around in their inventive costumes. This is one of the best times of year for our youngin’s- dressing up, going to parties, playing with friends, and playing make-believe… but what about the poor kids that are used as models for their parents distasteful creative endeavors?
Enter Ilay and Nehaoray, seven-year-old twins from Israel whose parents “playfully” decided to dress their children up in famous twin costumes: the Twin Towers. Not only are the kids dressed as the famous New York City buildings, they are fashioning the structures while on fire… with the planes sticking out of the side right near the children’s eye holes. Popular news website Ynet originally posted the image, with the headline “Twin Towers and other costumes this Purim.”
Kid's Purim Costume Idea: The Burning Twin Towers? [PHOTO] - Shalom Life
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i'm hung up on Purim and what is it - which country - and why I should care.

I swear I've seen Hitler and Nazi costumes more than once.
 
I'm more worried about the welfare of those kids in the OP. They're being raised by idiots..

True dat, but this also describes a couple billion other children as well.
 
Purim is a Jewish holiday rather than a place.

Yeah - I figured that much . . . so anywhere Jewish people are or is it mostly celebrated in certain countries?

It sounds interesting - I suppose.
 
True dat, but this also describes a couple billion other children as well.

right, see, you totally undermined the Op, didn't try to justify the costume, and didn't turn it into a pseudo-indictment of Jewish people.


Maybe take this as a lesson for how to handle similar situations in the future
 
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