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SE Cupp pulls out of CPAC until groups representing gay Republicans are embraced

Good, every Republican who whines about homosexuality or abortion strike me as a dinosaur on the wrong side of history. Now if we can only get them to change on the War on Drugs we might actually have a worthwhile Republican party again... maybe.
 
You can relax. Traditional marriage isn't going anywhere. Nobody is trying to take away a man's right to marry a woman or a woman's right to marry a man.

Never said that Traditional Marriage was "going somewhere"

Fail strawman
 
Never said that Traditional Marriage was "going somewhere"

Fail strawman

Traditional marriage (a short time ago compared to American history) was just between a man and woman of the same race.

Traditions change, and so will this. You and others are on the losing side of history in this regard. SSM will be legal one day despite the backwards efforts by some conservatives. That will be a great day.
 
SSM does not attack opposite sex marriage, to say otherwise is a lie :shrug:

I didn't say it "attacked it". I said there is no need for it. There are activists who are attacking the definition of marriage however, and they need to be opposed politically.

Same Sex Marriage is pointless. Marriage is an institution with a specific purpose. It binds the opposite sexes together to create the family unit. It propagates the species. There is no reason to grant homosexuals the special right to marry people of the same sex. If we start granting special rights to small groups of people with specific sexual appetites, it will only create an unnecessary slippery slope.

I don't feel the need to change the definition of marriage, or turn the institution on it's head, to appease a small group of people with specific sexual appetites. Spartan Warriors engaged in homosexuality but still upheld and respected marriage as an institution with a specific purpose. Gay Marriage simply doesn't follow natural law. It has no real social or economic purpose. It also denies children the right to be raised by their natural mother or father which is imperative for psychological and emotional development.

The only thing I see from people who support Gay Marriage is an attempt to objectify any opposition as "bigots", or characterize them as"on the wrong side of History". They offer no substance as to why Gay Marriage is absolutely necessary. From the 45 goals of Communism:

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
 
Traditional marriage (a short time ago compared to American history) was just between a man and woman of the same race.

Traditions change, and so will this. You and others are on the losing side of history in this regard. SSM will be legal one day despite the backwards efforts by some conservatives. That will be a great day.

Comparing Gay Marriage to the real struggle Blacks have suffered in this country demeans blacks and is racist.

It's perfectly acceptable to remove racial boundaries that existed within the culture of specific societies. After all, it was a union that still fit within the boundaries of Natural Law and the definition of marriage, where as Gay Marriage does not. The definition of marriage wasn't changed to remove those racial boundaries. Gay Marriage changes the definition of marriage to allow people to marry someone of the same sex. If we change it for gays, other groups with specific sexual appetites will come along and demand their Civil Rights are being violated too and demand to be included as well.
 
I haven't liked her since she, as an atheist, said she wished she could be religious. She's claimed she'd never vote for an atheist President. She thinks media is "mean" to religious people. She lacks intelligence and cites the whole field of science as being 'less credible."
 
Interesting, but I care little for Cupp, for the reasons zgoldsmith has stated above.
 
Comparing Gay Marriage to the real struggle Blacks have suffered in this country demeans blacks and is racist.

No, it isn't. It's just that you view being gay as something that is an option.

It's perfectly acceptable to remove racial boundaries that existed within the culture of specific societies.

And it is acceptable to remove gender boundaries on marriage as well.

After all, it was a union that still fit within the boundaries of Natural Law and the definition of marriage, where as Gay Marriage does not.

Gay marriage sure does fit into Natural Law. Homosexuality could very well be a way of population control, which would fit into Natural Law.

The definition of marriage wasn't changed to remove those racial boundaries. Gay Marriage changes the definition of marriage to allow people to marry someone of the same sex.

It just changes another boundary like racial marriage did. Again, you just don't like it. Well, tough ****.

If we change it for gays, other groups with specific sexual appetites will come along and demand their Civil Rights are being violated too and demand to be included as well.

Ah yes, the slippery slope of the losing argument. Keep trying that, it doesn't fly. There were people that said that marriage would end if blacks were able to marry whites as well.
 
From the 45 goals of Communism:


Your "Communist Goals" are from a book written by a faith-based political theorist Cleon Skousen, not even a real communist, or indeed, a left-winger at all. What a fail.
 
Your "Communist Goals" are from a book written by a faith-based political theorist Cleon Skousen, not even a real communist, or indeed, a left-winger at all. What a fail.

Well, that doesn't matter. If he says what you want to hear, then clearly it's true.

We should write a pamplet that lists all the goals of the Christian right. Apparently we can say whatever we want and someone will buy it.
 
The REAL question is, if this is a legitimate movement from the right, is it sincere? I highly suspect not.

It likely will be.

Even if it isn't it accomplishes the goal. So long as anti-gay conservatives are not at the helm, it is permissible. You have to sway even those who were skeptical in order to get anywhere.
 
It likely will be.

Even if it isn't it accomplishes the goal. So long as anti-gay conservatives are not at the helm, it is permissible. You have to sway even those who were skeptical in order to get anywhere.

You do have a point.
 
I cant beleive this is an issue again. Just when we're finally getting back to talking about important things like taxes, spending, and debt, here comes the media to steer us back to social issues. And no doubt liberals will hammer it to try and make republicans look bad again.

And odds are that the Republicans will oblige them every step of the way.
 
She gets away with a lot
because she's ridiculously hot.

Ahhh..... you can feel Dr. Seuss Day coming too, can't you?
 
Comparing Gay Marriage to the real struggle Blacks have suffered in this country demeans blacks and is racist.

It's perfectly acceptable to remove racial boundaries that existed within the culture of specific societies. After all, it was a union that still fit within the boundaries of Natural Law and the definition of marriage, where as Gay Marriage does not. The definition of marriage wasn't changed to remove those racial boundaries. Gay Marriage changes the definition of marriage to allow people to marry someone of the same sex. If we change it for gays, other groups with specific sexual appetites will come along and demand their Civil Rights are being violated too and demand to be included as well.

People said interracial marriage was against the laws of God and nature.
 
She gets away with a lot because she's ridiculously hot.

A sad reflection of the depths to which our society has sunk.



(also sad is the fact that i cannot find one nekkid picture of her anywhere.....???!!!!)
 
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