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Gas Prices Jump Nearly 25 Cents In Last 2 Weeks

It costs more in California because of California's air quality laws requiring a certain gasoline blend. Not many refineries make it, so prices are higher, and when one of those refineries slows or shuts down for maintenance, etc., prices climb fast.

In fact part of the reason for high gas prices is the state by state gasoline requirements forcing a need for refineries to produce many different fuel formulations. When one refinery goes off line the demand might not be able to be picked up by others because they may not be set up to produce that regions fuel.

Getting rid of the state by state requirements would mean one national "standard." Is that what anybody wants? Federal government intervention?
 
Taxes are taking a bigger chunk of the price than oil company profits, but the really painful part is the cost of regulatory compliance and the hundred or so boutique blends for different parts of the country.


With the Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards now set to almost 55mpg in 2025, expect fuel taxes to go up substantially at both the Federal and State level to make up for the loss of tax revenue. This will hit the lowest income earners the hardest, as they are unable to purchase the newer fuel efficient vehicles needed to get to and from work.

What comes next? Federally supplied vehicles for the poor? Gasoline Stamps for the needy?
 
With the Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards now set to almost 55mpg in 2025, expect fuel taxes to go up substantially at both the Federal and State level to make up for the loss of tax revenue. This will hit the lowest income earners the hardest, as they are unable to purchase the newer fuel efficient vehicles needed to get to and from work.

What comes next? Federally supplied vehicles for the poor? Gasoline Stamps for the needy?

That's a great idea.
 
The era of cheap gas is long over with. Until Americans figure this out, and replace their monster trucks with fuel efficient cars, this will be tough on a lot of people.

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The times, they are a changing.
 
Some worldwide maps to compare your prices.

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The era of cheap gas is long over with. Until Americans figure this out, and replace their monster trucks with fuel efficient cars, this will be tough on a lot of people.

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I'm thinking about investing into some of these.....plus I figures it can help with the Youth Obesity problem we have in this country. :2razz:
 
With the Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards now set to almost 55mpg in 2025, expect fuel taxes to go up substantially at both the Federal and State level to make up for the loss of tax revenue. This will hit the lowest income earners the hardest, as they are unable to purchase the newer fuel efficient vehicles needed to get to and from work.

What comes next? Federally supplied vehicles for the poor? Gasoline Stamps for the needy?

Prices for older less fuel efficient vehicles will also crater, making initial cost to buy much lower. This will also spur a move to go to mileage monitoring, so that electric powered vehicles will not escape paying for road use.
 
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There is a silver lining in higher oil prices.. It's alternative energy. We can make fuel out of poop for crying out loud.
 
There is a silver lining in higher oil prices.. It's alternative energy. We can make fuel out of poop for crying out loud.

Yeah, I can agree on alternative energy. But now we don't need any more poop. We already have enough chit with what Politicians Feeds us. :lol:
 
That thing bears an uncanny resemblence to voting patterns. Want to pay more for gas? Move to a liberal state.

gas is cheap in New Jersey and this is a liberal state
 
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I'm thinking about investing into some of these.....plus I figures it can help with the Youth Obesity problem we have in this country. :2razz:

If the guy pulling the ricksha is making the minimum wage, what's your cost/mile going to be? :cool:
 
I just love how some Conservatives give the President magical powers when they criticize him.

Can someone please explain to me how Obama has control over a globally traded and priced commodity?
 
And before that they went down. Here in Minnesota they were slightly below $3 a gallon for a little bit. It's called the free market and supply and demand.

Congratulations! You know jack about economics!

Fuel's demand is highly inelastic, so you can't sit there, shrug, and say "it's the free market and supply and demand" while appearing that you know what the hell you're talking about.
 
I know, a guy in my office rides year around 10+ miles till the snow just gets too deep. He makes fun of me a lot.

I was riding a bike up in the mountains of Mexifornia when it was snowing. I got pulled over by the Highway Patrol and ticketed for not having snow chains on my tires of my bike.

Only in the nanny state of the Socialist Republik of California do they do this.
 
I just love how some Conservatives give the President magical powers when they criticize him.

Can someone please explain to me how Obama has control over a globally traded and priced commodity?

All we have to do is go back to the Bush administration.
 
Congratulations! You know jack about economics!

Fuel's demand is highly inelastic, so you can't sit there, shrug, and say "it's the free market and supply and demand" while appearing that you know what the hell you're talking about.

You think inelastcity confers immunity to basic market forces?
 
You think inelastcity confers immunity to basic market forces?

I think if you come on in here and try to explain prices of gas, insulin, yachts, etc with "it's the free market, supply and demand", you're showing ignorance. When oil companies gouge people because they have oligarchial control of a commodity that is needed by people regardless of the price, it needs a better explanation than "it's the free market, supply and demand". Of course, that's just the liberal playbook - you of all people should know that, since you're just another rank-and-file. Market failure is the free market, supply and demand, huck huck huck.

Read a book.
 
Given that the cost to transport nearly everything increases with increases in gas costs, which in turn increases the prices for most everything... how about we get rid of the gas taxes, cut our sorrows at the pump in half as well as reduce prices all around and shipping costs, and make up that revenue elsewhere?

Could anyone explain to me why this would be a bad idea, or if I am mistaken in my logic/facts?
 
Virtually everything in that article is very much free market forces...

Not regional gasoline blends and excise taxes which cause some pretty wide variance in prices.
 
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