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Reading "My Pet Goat" perhaps?
Not a bad guess. But whatever he was doing it wasn't saving American lives.
Reading "My Pet Goat" perhaps?
Not a bad guess. But whatever he was doing it wasn't saving American lives.
Great conspiracy theory, Bonzai. I'll bet you have a lot more too. Am I right?
What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?
You think distance is a problem? FDR just kept up with his rest while waiting for the homing pigeons to bring word?
What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?
Less mileage is good, more mileage is bad? Really!?
Distance ALWAYS has negative impacts on response time. Would you care to answer those questions?
You're welcome to answer those questions yourself. BTW - I'd consider a World War to require more involvement than an attack on a consulate in Libya.
Umm, you're moving the goalposts. What you said was, "What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?" You seem to think that mileage is a problem for Presidents, but in addition to homing pigeons, they also have encrypted messages and phones too. What I mean is that even before you were born, Presidents faced logistical communication problems...and seemed to remain informed. The current President had communication advantages not even dreamed of in the 1940's...so why wasn't in the "situation room"?
This thread is about Benghazi not Solandra, remember? :naughtyReally? Are the numbers already in?
Share please.
Thanks, I thought so, too.Good point.
Plotting to take over the world, I imagine.No, I understand you can see no reason why he should stick around when Americana are under attack. Any idea what he might have been doing instead?.
Of course.But of course he did give a different story as well.
I think it was a terrorist attack, but it could have been inspired by the video tape and/or the anniversary of 9/11. Who knows, really? I'll wait for the movie. lolDo you still believe it was the fault of the Internet guy too?
I'm not moving the goalposts. You are avoiding the question. So, again, what precisely are your expectations? What specific actions do you believe the President should have taken. I'm sick of seeing people whine about it without saying specifically what they think he should have done. Aside from planting his ass in a chair in the Situation room; what specific actions do you think he should have taken?
Well, let's begin with the President's planting his ass in a chair. He did not. What could the President have done? First, he could have decided to engage once he was informed. And then he could've phoned Sec/State to make sure she was on top of the situation and reporting to him.
Now YOU explain why Ambassador Rice was trotted out to all five Sunday poli-talk shows to disseminate a damage-control LIE that was known to be a lie from 9-11 on. You think Rice just went rogue?
So it wasn't her fault after all. huh? Instead it was 'underfunding'. Perhaps she and Obama should have considered the safety of their fellow Americans before jetting around the world or wasting tax dollars on companies like Solyndra.
The President should have done everything possible to save those men and stayed on the job until it was certain he did all he could do. He abdicated his responsibility
So you want the President to sit in a chair for hours and micromanage his staff? That about sum it up?
Well, he is right. Obama was 6,000 miles away and the nearest air support to Benghazi was over two hours away. It took the six man Navy Seal team with an armored vehicle hours to get there.Umm, you're moving the goalposts. What you said was, "What are your expectations of a President while a consulate more than 6,000 miles away is under attack? What specific actions do you think the President should take?"
You seem to think that mileage is a problem for Presidents, but in addition to homing pigeons, they also have encrypted messages and phones too. What I mean is that even before you were born, Presidents faced logistical communication problems...and seemed to remain informed. The current President had communication advantages not even dreamed of in the 1940's...so why wasn't in the "situation room"?
Well, he is right. Obama was 6,000 miles away and the nearest air support to Benghazi was over two hours away. It took the six man Navy Seal team with an armored vehicle hours to get there.
"Panetta said, though he did meet with Obama at a 5 o'clock prescheduled gathering, the president left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, "up to us."
Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi | The Weekly Standard
Of course, McCain the hero would have shut down the government and sent 50,000 troops to Libya in fifteen minutes, right? So after giving a direct order to Panetta to do what he could to help the personel at the consolate, what else would you have had Obama do that night that would have made a difference?
Of course, McCain the hero would have shut down the government and sent 50,000 troops to Libya in fifteen minutes, right? So after giving a direct order to Panetta to do what he could to help the personel at the consolate, what else would you have had Obama do that night that would have made a difference?
But clue in--the President of the United States has multiple options.
Your hyperbole doesn't move me. But clue in--the President of the United States has multiple options. Obama didn't do ****. That was the option he chose.
Indeed, "I take responsibility" would be quite a shocker to the GOP base who wear their personal responsibility on their sleeves.
October 16, 2012
"I take responsibility," Clinton told CNN in an interview while on a visit to Peru. "I'm in charge of the State Department's 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts. The president and the vice president wouldn't be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They're the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs and make a considered decision."....read
Clinton: I'm responsible for diplomats' security - CNN.com
They are well on their way to permanent status as a minority party and their obstruction is a big reason. Since when is the people's will tyranny?
Thanks for your opinion, it is tainted by you consistant hatred of the President, but you are welcome to it anyway.
That opinion is thankfully not shared by the rest of America which not only re-elected Obama but continue to show their confidence his leadership in every major poll. That must really hurt.
A President can't be everywhere at once but there is no doubt that someone let him down. I do find it interesting that the CIA was responsible for security and Petreas bailed soon after the incident.
I have not trusted the CIA for a long long time, their terrible bungling of the Iraqi intelligence was just the icing on the cake. I knew it was time to throw them all out and start over after 911 but all they got were medals and raises.
Well, he is right. Obama was 6,000 miles away and the nearest air support to Benghazi was over two hours away. It took the six man Navy Seal team with an armored vehicle hours to get there.
"Panetta said, though he did meet with Obama at a 5 o'clock prescheduled gathering, the president left operational details, including knowledge of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, "up to us."
Panetta: Obama Absent Night of Benghazi | The Weekly Standard
Of course, McCain the hero would have shut down the government and sent 50,000 troops to Libya in fifteen minutes, right? So after giving a direct order to Panetta to do what he could to help the personel at the consolate, what else would you have had Obama do that night that would have made a difference?
Your hyperbole doesn't move me. But clue in--the President of the United States has multiple options. Obama didn't do ****. That was the option he chose.