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US To Use Drones In Chris Dorner Manhunt

Jack Fabulous said:
I think it would be bad ass to have my own drone. I wonder what they cost?
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Even if he doesn't have radar, I'll launch flares, cut all sig and glide out.
 
It doesn't bother me if they use drones to try and capture fugitives. If the technology is available, why not use it?
 
Lo and behold, one day, all the woodsman, survivalists and hermits disappeared from their disappearance.

On those days "terrorists" by accusation were also magically born. We need hermit suffrage! *disappears*
 
Jango said:
With a helicopter, you presume to know that your privacy is being invaded. But with drones, privacy is invaded unknowingly in probably 99.99% of the time, and as technology progresses, the likelihood of home/car invasion with drones is probable. Besides, the issue of armed drones comes into play. Then, the downward slope of assassinations on American soil by the police with drones. Don't be surprised to read about that kind of stuff within the next couple of years. That's why I'm against it, it's a completely dangerous doorway that's been opened as compared to helicopters. It really is going to be apples to oranges once the first precedent occurs.
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Well considering police helicopters have the capability to shoot, so far I haven't seen any assasinations, home/car invasions etc. I think your comments fall into the paranoia catagory in that instance.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well considering police helicopters have the capability to shoot, so far I haven't seen any assasinations, home/car invasions etc. I think your comments fall into the paranoia catagory in that instance.
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I defer to this:

Jango said:
It's alarming how often the people that side with the government on matters such as these turn out to be wrong.
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Jango said:
I defer to this:
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And I defer to this.........

You're comments are paranoid and illogical because the SAME thing already exists in another form.
 
TheNextEra said:
And I defer to this.........

You're comments are paranoid and illogical because the SAME thing already exists in another form.
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:lamo

Okay man, whatever you say.
 
TheNextEra said:
And I defer to this.........

You're comments are paranoid and illogical because the SAME thing already exists in another form.
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Wait, so drones over the skies goes from conspiracy theory to good thing?!?

And the person that brings up a similar point (government always lying), and it's not that they are right, they are bad / paranoid for seeing that having drones flying around, and showing concern that they may become armed drones.

Weren't the cops just goin around chasing people not even in the correct vehicles, shooting people, etc...

I'm amazed with the nonchalance with which you are handling watching the republic crumble (and all the good that comes with it) before your eyes...
 
BmanMcfly said:
Wait, so drones over the skies goes from conspiracy theory to good thing?!?
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When we are talking about survellance drones that will eventually be owned by police forces like the LAPD, yes this is just conspiracy.

Now, if we are talking about military weapon equipped drones with missles, I will gladly take the side of not having those. But to try and produce a "slippery slope" for every conceivable thing that happens, that's conspiracy.
 
Ikari said:
Oh the government would love for this to become standard....LOVE it. How many folk will excuse it? That's the truly disgusting stat.
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If the government sells it to local police departments how is a survellence drone (no missles) any different than helicopters?
 
Ikari said:
Oh the government would love for this to become standard....LOVE it. How many folk will excuse it? That's the truly disgusting stat.
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It's like I'm watching what will eventually become a mild version of the war against the machines, in a Terminator movie.
 
TheNextEra said:
If the government sells it to local police departments how is a survellence drone (no missles) any different than helicopters?
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helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
 
TheNextEra said:
If the government sells it to local police departments how is a survellence drone (no missles) any different than helicopters?
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Sure they wont be armed, at first. Gotta get a seemingly harmless foot through the door before you do what every "conspiracy theorist" predicted you'll do.

Ikari said:
helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
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IKR, as if Cameras everywhere and everyone carrying a GPS/Microphone weren't enough?
 
Ikari said:
helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
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Well I see your point and I do understand it, I just don't agree with it. With limited police officers patrolling and the crime rate in urban areas, I would see it as a plus to help prevent or catch criminals.

I can understand how some see it as a slippery slope with "big brother" getting bigger, but I also see the slippery slope of crime rates increasing without them as well.
 
Lachean said:
IKR, as if Cameras everywhere and everyone carrying a GPS/Microphone weren't enough?
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In most cases where there are armed criminals, you usually don't see a civilian trying to capture a crime on video and many cameras are being utilized for the stores and not outside where a lot of crimes take place.
 
TheNextEra said:
In most cases where there are armed criminals, you usually don't see a civilian trying to capture a crime on video and many cameras are being utilized for the stores and not outside where a lot of crimes take place.
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I was talking about a concern of big brother, not a need for more of it. I want fewer cameras.
 
TheNextEra said:
I can understand how some see it as a slippery slope with "big brother" getting bigger, but I also see the slippery slope of crime rates increasing without them as well.
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That is just stupid. You are basically giving up privacy for safety. That doesn't even make any sense.
 
Henrin said:
That is just stupid. You are basically giving up privacy for safety. That doesn't even make any sense.
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No, you are going down a slippery slope. Do you consider police officers that are patrolling the streets as an invasion of privacy? They pretty much do on the ground what the drones do in the sky.
 
Ikari said:
helicopters should be limited in use. Drones are going to be easier and cheaper to use in general and constant surveillance. And no weapons for now. The government does not need more tools of big brother oppression. Drones should be illegal in the US. 100%.
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Im not saying everyone is nefarious and this would defiantly happen. But drones open the possibility of "accidents". As in fake accidents (thats what the qoutes accent towards ;) ) A helicopter pilot isnt going to go, "Hey ima just crash my survaylence heli into this bastard cuz I dont want him to get away." If no one is driving the thing personally it could lead to the offshoot and extreme cases of justice/vengeance killing "accidents" and assassination "accidents".

The fact that people flew drones into people would probably be enough fact to piss the public off enough to reject it but I could imagine dip****s trying it.

When cops spend more time collecting info and trying to construe it into something instead of stopping crimes in action then it could be abused.
 
TheNextEra said:
Well I see your point and I do understand it, I just don't agree with it. With limited police officers patrolling and the crime rate in urban areas, I would see it as a plus to help prevent or catch criminals.

I can understand how some see it as a slippery slope with "big brother" getting bigger, but I also see the slippery slope of crime rates increasing without them as well.
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I don't see, without constant monitoring, how this would really impact our crimes rate. There are a multitude of socioeconomic factors which go into crime stats that are not addressed through the use of drone planes.
 
TheNextEra said:
No, you are going down a slippery slope. Do you consider police officers that are patrolling the streets as an invasion of privacy? They pretty much do on the ground what the drones do in the sky.
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Yeah, except that soon enough they'll be shooting at us from helicopters.
 
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