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Rand Paul Calls Benghazi "Worst Tragedy Since 9/11"

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Rand Paul is an idiot. He's a gross idiot.
 
It is a fair scrutiny. He did it to her face not with a wagging finger from a podium somewhere. When people die, tough questions/comments are appropriate.
 
Notice the look Hilary had on her face. She was like "This mutha***** here !!!"
 
Fisher said:
It is a fair scrutiny. He did it to her face not with a wagging finger from a podium somewhere. When people die, tough questions/comments are appropriate.
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I agree that when people die, tough questions/comments are appropriate, but c'mon, do you believe that he made this ridiculous statement because he cares? He is just trying to make a splash in the 2016 election waters.
 
Fisher said:
It is a fair scrutiny. He did it to her face not with a wagging finger from a podium somewhere. When people die, tough questions/comments are appropriate.
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Tough yes, political grandstanding- no. Sec Clinton's response was to remind him of 4000 citizen's lost fighting an elective war built on trumped up reasons. Since 9-11??? REALLY???

Rand seems to be turning into petty sore loser.
 
rcart76 said:
I agree that when people die, tough questions/comments are appropriate, but c'mon, do you believe that he made this ridiculous statement because he cares? He is just trying to make a splash in the 2016 election waters.
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I don't know much of anything about him other than he is related to Ron. I would have had tougher things to say to her.
 
So according to Mr Rand Paul the Benghazi attack where four Americans were killed while working in a WAR ZONE was more tragic than say 28 women and children shot to pieces in a first grade classroom in Newtown Connecticut????

What a twisted world we're living in.
 
"Worst tragedy since 9/11" is way over the top political rhetoric.

"A massive screw up on the part of the state department" would be more accurate.
 
It's hard to believe he doesn't have ulterior motives when he spends 6 minutes blaming her for a failure of leadership, only to ask about whether or not guns were being sold to Turkey.
 
Ron Paul, who I usually disagree with, is correct.
 
joko104 said:
Ron Paul, who I usually disagree with, is correct.
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This thread isn't about Ron Paul. It's about his mouth-breathing son.
 
Tough questions about this tragedy are certainly relevant and important.

This was not the greatest tragedy since 9/11 though. That's just hyperbole.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
It's hard to believe he doesn't have ulterior motives when he spends 6 minutes blaming her for a failure of leadership, only to ask about whether or not guns were being sold to Turkey.
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Yeah, it was a wild non sequitur and you could hear she was incredulous that that was his question?
 
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Rand Paul To Clinton: Benghazi ‘Worst Tragedy Since 9/11′ — I Would Have Fired You | The New Civil Rights Movement



Okay regardless of what your party affiliation is, we all know that this guy is full of ****. I guess he overlook the hot topic about some shooting that occurred in CT. What was that story about again???

This guy is slim.
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He's absolutely right

They were repeated warnings that were ignored. The Security at the consulate was basically disarmed and outsourced. Stevens was the first ambassador killed in 30 years.

CT was a completely different animal. Paul is speaking of National Security, Politics, Foreign Policy. ect.

Rand Paul 2016
 
notquiteright said:
Tough yes, political grandstanding- no. Sec Clinton's response was to remind him of 4000 citizen's lost fighting an elective war built on trumped up reasons. Since 9-11??? REALLY???

Rand seems to be turning into petty sore loser.
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How dare anyone question Hillary's incompetence, conflicting story, and our Government!

It's boring and cliche to keep whining that anyone who questions your Dear Leader or his incompetent Administration is a "sore loser". Time to read a new Chapter in Rules for Radicals
 
By turns emotional and fierce, Clinton choked up as she spoke of comforting the victims' families and grew angry when a Republican senator accused the Obama administration of misleading the country over whether the Benghazi incident stemmed from a protest.

"With all due respect, the fact is that we had four dead Americans," Clinton shot back as she testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, an appearance delayed more than a month because of her ill health.

"Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?" she said, making chopping motions with her hands for emphasis.....snip~

Clinton angrily defends handling of Benghazi attack - Yahoo! News

Course her saying she didn't know about any cables from the Libyans doesn't help her out much nor that she had seen any requests for more security. Moreover both her and Obama knew exactly what Libya was like after Gadhafi was ousted.

Well Madam Secretary it matters now.....due to All that Incompetence that 2 different committees have found. Which means in taking responsibility you admit to your screw up and that costed 4 American's lives. While putting a host of others in as much danger as well. First there was protests and then there was no protests.

Armed militants.....yeah the sames ones that you hired to protect our people from the Libyans. Wheres the Autopsy on Stevens Body? Where is the question about Stevens meeting that Turk Ambassdor 2 hrs prior to the attack and was seen Right on the Street in front of the Consulate?
 
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He's absolutely right

They were repeated warnings that were ignored. The Security at the consulate was basically disarmed and outsourced. Stevens was the first ambassador killed in 30 years.

CT was a completely different animal. Paul is speaking of National Security, Politics, Foreign Policy. ect.

Rand Paul 2016
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If your daughter and/or son was one of the 20 children massacre in CT, would you still rank Benghazi as the worst tragedy since 9/11.
 
Bronson said:
How dare anyone question Hillary's incompetence, conflicting story, and our Government!

It's boring and cliche to keep whining that anyone who questions your Dear Leader or his incompetent Administration is a "sore loser". Time to read a new Chapter in Rules for Radicals
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once again twisting the post. It is fair to question but to compare this to 9/11???? Rand couldn't even pull his home state, he sure can't be a happy loser! :2razz:

Now much is made of warnings and other signals, what gets lost in it all is how many warnings, intercepts, requests for everything all the time are routinely passed back and forth. mistakes, sure but to carry on as if postings to the trouble spots of the world are risk free....

Onething we forget is this Ambassador made his bones by risk taking. He was a brave man, and it is brave men who make the sacrifice, not the second guessers who never venture out.

I see no honor in what Rand did.
 
notquiteright said:
once again twisting the post. It is fair to question but to compare this to 9/11???? Rand couldn't even pull his home state, he sure can't be a happy loser! :2razz:
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From a Foreign Policy and National Security standpoint, it absolutely is. This was a US Ambassador. Sean Smith was a network admin. Stevens repeatedly begged for help/more security, even up to the day he was killed. Those pleas were ignored.

Now much is made of warnings and other signals, what gets lost in it all is how many warnings, intercepts, requests for everything all the time are routinely passed back and forth. mistakes, sure but to carry on as if postings to the trouble spots of the world are risk free....
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Laughable dodge

Your offhandedly dismissing mountains of evidence and emails that refute how much you are trying to downplay it. Why don't you just admit that the death of 4 Americans at that embassy really isn't that big of a deal to you? As long as Hillary can lie her way through a hearing to skate politically, you're cool with a few dead bodies. The lies be damned. The fact that she lied to the faces of the families at the wake, and told them their loved ones died because of a youtube video doesn't matter.

Onething we forget is this Ambassador made his bones by risk taking. He was a brave man, and it is brave men who make the sacrifice, not the second guessers who never venture out.

I see no honor in what Rand did.
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Oh I get it now. It's Steven's fault now that his pleas for additional security were ignored. Got it.
 
rcart76 said:
If your daughter and/or son was one of the 20 children massacre in CT, would you still rank Benghazi as the worst tragedy since 9/11.
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Do you understand the difference between a National Security/Foreign Policy tragedy that could have easily been avoided, compared to some lunatic that nobody knew existed before he walked up to a Gun Free zone and opened fire?
 
In terms of sheer number of people killed, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.
In terms of where the people were killed, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.
In terms of historical significance, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.
In terms of government failure, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.

Anyone defending this comparison should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Bronson said:
Do you understand the difference between a National Security/Foreign Policy tragedy that could have easily been avoided, compared to some lunatic that nobody knew existed before he walked up to a Gun Free zone and opened fire?
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Tettsuo said:
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Look if you want to debate this, that's fine, but using South Park videos and trying to disguise that as an argument is embarrassing

Benghazi attack had mountains of intel and warnings proceeding it. It was a political attack launched by an small army of well armed terrorists

CT Shooting was an unhinged lone nut committing Public Ritual Suicide. There weren't repeated warnings from the Intel Community that Adam Lanza was going to go on a shooting spree so he could go down in infamy.

If you can't see the difference that's not my problem. I understand you are trying to rationalize any lie Hillary Clinton spews because you are a liberal. Again, not my problem.
 
Tettsuo said:
In terms of sheer number of people killed, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.
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It's not about "sheer number of people killed" however. You are engaging in a strawman

In terms of where the people were killed, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.
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Comparing a domestic school shooting by a lone nut committing public suicide for infamy is not the same thing as a terrorist attack at our consulate in Libya.

In terms of historical significance, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.
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Politically and Historically the attack on our consulate is much more significant.

In terms of government failure, his comparison is totally and completely idiotic.
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Not his comparison actually. YOUR COMPARISON.

Anyone defending this comparison should be ashamed of themselves.
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Anyone attacking his comparison and trying to bring up Sandy Hook as a relevant comparison should be ashamed of themselves
 
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