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Rand Paul tells Christie to stop his temper tantrums and grandstanding [W:53]

I am trying to think of why any one would care what Rand Paul thinks, but I cannot come up with a reason to. I still find it fun to watch the republican party eat it's own.
 
Excuse us if we don't put any faith in a source which A) Was posted by you and B) Is called "Theleftwingnoisemachine".<---- Is that your alter ego btw?


I find it rather humorous when folks refuse to read posted links and attack said links solely on the basis of whether or not they agree with the politics endorsed on said link. Now if Marinetpartier had bothered to read the link, he might have found another link on the "leftwingnoisemachine" page, this one - Rand Paul’s Toilet Tirade - ABC News
Members of Congress are upset about a lot of things – the economy, the debt… the toilets?

Sen. Rand Paul, R-KY, today went off on a tirade about toilets in the midst of an Energy & Natural Resources Committee hearing on energy efficiency standards for certain appliances.
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“Frankly, my toilets don’t work in my house. And I blame you and people like you who want to tell me what I can install in my house, what I can do. You restrict my choices. There is hypocrisy that goes on when people claim to believe in some choices but don’t want to let the consumer decide what they can buy and put in their houses. I find it insulting. I find it insulting that a lot of these products that you’re going to make us buy and you won’t let us buy what we want to buy and you take away our choices.”

and just to confirm Sen. Paul's rationality, his office uploaded a video of the tirade to his own YouTube channel - Sen. Rand Paul on Consumer Choice in Energy Committee Hearing - YouTube


So, maybe next time, a political opponent posts links to a page you don't like, you should consider checking it out and not reflexively rejecting it due to the source and for no other reason.
 
Man, that's some funny stuff



Rand Paul tells the woman who is testifying that he can't find a toilet that works, so the woman replies "I can help you find a toilet that works"

So he asks her if she's going to pay for it!! :lamo
 
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I would have a lot of trouble flushing my toilet if I spewed as much BS into it as rand paul spits out in a day.
 
I find it rather humorous when folks refuse to read posted links and attack said links solely on the basis of whether or not they agree with the politics endorsed on said link. Now if Marinetpartier had bothered to read the link, he might have found another link on the "leftwingnoisemachine" page, this one - Rand Paul’s Toilet Tirade - ABC News


and just to confirm Sen. Paul's rationality, his office uploaded a video of the tirade to his own YouTube channel - Sen. Rand Paul on Consumer Choice in Energy Committee Hearing - YouTube


So, maybe next time, a political opponent posts links to a page you don't like, you should consider checking it out and not reflexively rejecting it due to the source and for no other reason.

When you say source, are you speaking of the person or the website? Because, if Somerville had ever read any of the trolling propaganda by HOJ, he'd see why I automatically dismiss anything the guy posts. He could post something by one of the most trusted sources in all the land and I'd automatically assume he altered it. If you had posted it, yeah, I would've read it. Not this guy.
 
While people are making fun of Rand Paul, they should be making fun of the idiotic toilet regulations that don't save any water whatsoever.
 
Rand Paul is a buffoon.
 
Rand Paul is a buffoon.
Well there is a substantive reply. Mind telling me why you say that or provide an issue where you find his position equal to buffoonery. Otherwise, I have no real reason to take your post seriously
 
Excuse us if we don't put any faith in a source which A) Was posted by you and B) Is called "Theleftwingnoisemachine".<---- Is that your alter ego btw?

You poor partisan ideologue -- you have to deny the Congressional record and video to save your freakish tea party heroes from their own words.

“I have a couple responses to that,” [Paul's tirade blaming Obama for the fact that his toilets don't work" replied Hogan [Kathleen Hogan, the deputy assistant secretary for energy efficiency at the Department of Energy] once Paul had concluded his rant. “One, I think the appliance standards program is a great partnership between the Congress and the administration over many years. So much of what we are implementing had its genesis in bipartisan bills that we put forth at a number of different points over the history of this country for the last 30 to 40 years.”

“But you restrict our choices, right?” asked Paul.

“I really do not believe the appliance standards end up restricting personal choice,” Hogan said.

“I can’t buy the old light bulbs. That restricts my choice on buying.”

“My view is what you want is lighting, right?” Hogan said.

“I can’t buy a toilet that works,” he replied.

“I can help you find a toilet that works,” she offered.


Paul sounds like a student body president from a prep school not a Senator
 
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Well there is a substantive reply. Mind telling me why you say that or provide an issue where you find his position equal to buffoonery. Otherwise, I have no real reason to take your post seriously

Watch footage of Rand Paul's rants and then you will. The guy is a nimrod.
 
I have been annoyed by the low flow useless toilet since it was forced on the people.

Her rebuttal on the light bulb argument was just stupid. He doesn't just want lighting, he wants the lighting he desires. This isn't that hard to understand.

And clearly the entire point of the examples he listed are to restrict choice. Let's not be stupid.
 
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I have been annoyed by the low flow useless toilet since it was forced on the people.

Her rebuttal on the light bulb argument was just stupid. He doesn't just want lighting, he wants the lighting he desires. This isn't that hard to understand.

And clearly the entire point of the examples he listed are to restrict choice. Let's not be stupid.

Only in teapartybizarroworld is liberty measured by the right to have water wasting toilets.

I think this sums up what's wrong with conservatism.
 
Only in teapartybizarroworld is liberty measured by the right to have water wasting toilets.

I think this sums up what's wrong with conservatism.

Because restricting access to the toilets I want to buy is not limiting my liberty?
 
Frankly, I wonder why anyone would want to vote for someone like Rand Paul. This guy is something "special" (as in "special ed!"). On the one hand, he claims that government makes rules that hamper his consumer choices within the free market system, yet on the other hand he won't do his own due diligence to find a functional household item/appliance at a reasonable price from within the very free market system he claims to love. I mean, c'mon, folks...how difficult can it be to drive down to the nearest Lowe's, Home Depot, Sears or some mom and pop hardware store and purchase the toilet you like that you can install yourself?

Good grieve...:roll: Rand Paul is certainly a piece of .... work. (Ha, Ha! You thought I was gonna say something else, didn't you? :lamo It does make one wonder, though...are Rand Paul's poops that big he needs some specially made toilet to flush them? :rofl)
 
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I have been annoyed by the low flow useless toilet since it was forced on the people.

Her rebuttal on the light bulb argument was just stupid. He doesn't just want lighting, he wants the lighting he desires. This isn't that hard to understand.

And clearly the entire point of the examples he listed are to restrict choice. Let's not be stupid.

And when the electrical grid gets over loaded and brown outs occur or blackouts because everyone is using inefficient electrical devices where is he going to get his lighting then?

Believe it or not it is an interdependent system.
 
And when the electrical grid gets over loaded and brown outs occur or blackouts because everyone is using inefficient electrical devices where is he going to get his lighting then?

Believe it or not it is an interdependent system.

If people wish to use inefficient electrical devices they should be free to do that and others should be free to try to convince them to do otherwise in a respectful manner. If they don't accept their arguments or happen to have some use for these devices that other technologies can't provide than they should be free to continue to make that choice. It matters not to me and this drama about how it means horrible things for the grid is just that, drama.
 
If a completely dogmatic idiot like Rand Paul is attacking Christie, that only strengthens his potential candidacy as far as I'm concerned.
 
Because restricting access to the toilets I want to buy is not limiting my liberty?

No, it's not. Putting products on the market the needlessly waste water is. You don't have the right to buy a lot of things that harm others. Grow up and get used to it.
 
If people wish to use inefficient electrical devices they should be free to do that and others should be free to try to convince them to do otherwise in a respectful manner. If they don't accept their arguments or happen to have some use for these devices that other technologies can't provide than they should be free to continue to make that choice. It matters not to me and this drama about how it means horrible things for the grid is just that, drama.

This is where I have to agree with winston53660. Look at it in much that same way as local zoning laws. At there basic level, the reason behind them is "uniformity". The most extreme example I can give are gated communities or townhome co-ops where everyone has to conform to the same rules on lawn & gardening and exterior home decor.

There are reasons certain items must conform to certain industrial stadards. Consider if you will why few, if any, Americans can install 220v outlets in their homes. The answer is very simple: Because nearly every home and commerical property works on 120v electricity.
 
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