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Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun Mea

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That's insane. Anyone talking in those terms is ****ing nuts. We make things happen at the ballot box in this country. All this crap-talk is juvenile. It really makes gun officienados look like whack jobs.


Maggie, as long as we stay within the bounds of reason, and something at least related to the Constitution, probably nothing drastic is going to happen.

However, if someone were to do something crazy... like say an EO banning all semi-autos, blatantly unConstitutional, then yes there probably would be armed revolt.

It is no joke. Some of the people saying they're willing, if necessary, to go to war for the Second Amendment are former or current service military guys... some of them are spec-ops, snipers, demolitions experts... extremely fricking dangerous men, and very serious men who are neither joking nor are they insane. They're bound and determined to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign or domestic as they swore when they joined the military.


I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that, as it would be the worst mess this country has seen in over a century.
 
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Which is great because nobody is proposing blanket bans on all firearms.

A blanket ban would just be the worst case scenario. Simply further infringing on the rights of private citizens by obstructing their access to firearms of any "normal" kind is enough to light the fuse.
 
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Yup, that is what this powder keg needs is a match. Don't let anyone ever say gun owners are level headed in the future. Yup, blood on the streets, that will convince people gun owners are safe. The NRA is the biggest enemy the NRA ever had. Really, how out of your mind do you have to be to think that gunfights are a great way to convince people guns are safe? The moment the gun owners start shooting they prove the argument against them correct. It is so obvious I cannot believe how they miss it.

Have fun. The world needed a few less people anyway.
 
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That's insane. Anyone talking in those terms is ****ing nuts. We make things happen at the ballot box in this country. All this crap-talk is juvenile. It really makes gun officienados look like whack jobs.

I have to agree wholeheartedly. just how do gun people think they are going to prove guns are safe in society by shooting up society? The logic derailment here is insane and the gun people need to sit down, cool off, and stop before they go too far and do something they cannot take back. That is what calm, cool collected people would do, and if that is not you perhaps you should not be owning a gun anyway.
 
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Yup, that is what this powder keg needs is a match. Don't let anyone ever say gun owners are level headed in the future. Yup, blood on the streets, that will convince people gun owners are safe. The NRA is the biggest enemy the NRA ever had. Really, how out of your mind do you have to be to think that gunfights are a great way to convince people guns are safe? The moment the gun owners start shooting they prove the argument against them correct. It is so obvious I cannot believe how they miss it.

Have fun. The world needed a few less people anyway.


By the logic you just used, America's founders were a bunch of violent lunatics who overreacted to King George's regulation of his New World colonies. :roll:
 
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By the logic you just used, America's founders were a bunch of violent lunatics who overreacted to King George's regulation of his New World colonies. :roll:

They were doing a little bit more than pissing their pants over some gun legislation. Please do not compare these people to them, it is a lie, and it only feeds their delusion that they are some sort of heroes.
 
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They were doing a little bit more than pissing their pants over some gun legislation. Please do not compare these people to them, it is a lie, and it only feeds their delusion that they are some sort of heroes.


You need to study the Revolution again. Frankly many of the "Intolerable Acts" that kicked off the Rev-war were scarcely any worse than many Federal laws we have today, and the particular incident that caused "The Shot Heard 'Round the World" was the British coming to seize the colonists' weapons.

When you wish to oppress a well-armed people, the first thing you want to do is disarm them...
 
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You need to study the Revolution again. Frankly many of the "Intolerable Acts" that kicked off the Rev-war were scarcely any worse than many Federal laws we have today, and the particular incident that caused "The Shot Heard 'Round the World" was the British coming to seize the colonists' weapons.

When you wish to oppress a well-armed people, the first thing you want to do is disarm them...

Really what you are doing is working yourself up into a frenzy and trying to rationalize your ideas for violent actions. I am telling you that this is the common reaction for someone who is excited and worried, but it is also the worst way to go about things. The only thing shooting is going to do is prove gun owners are irrational and prone to freaking out and shooting. I am telling you that your message will not be received as what you are intending it to be, and the path is actually quite wrong. Slow down and think about things. You are backing an idea that shooting people is a way to convince people that gun owners can be safe and level headed.
 
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Really what you are doing is working yourself up into a frenzy and trying to rationalize your ideas for violent actions. I am telling you that this is the common reaction for someone who is excited and worried, but it is also the worst way to go about things. The only thing shooting is going to do is prove gun owners are irrational and prone to freaking out and shooting. I am telling you that your message will not be received as what you are intending it to be, and the path is actually quite wrong. Slow down and think about things. You are backing an idea that shooting people is a way to convince people that gun owners can be safe and level headed.


This post demonstrates several things very clearly:

You don't understand me or know what my mindset or feelings are
You don't understand where pro-2Aers and Constitutionists are coming from on this issue
You are misattributing motives and intentions of the majority
... and clearly you aren't listening.


:beatdeadhorse ... which gets tiresome quickly, so I'm logging off for the evening...
 
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You need to study the Revolution again. Frankly many of the "Intolerable Acts" that kicked off the Rev-war were scarcely any worse than many Federal laws we have today, and the particular incident that caused "The Shot Heard 'Round the World" was the British coming to seize the colonists' weapons.

When you wish to oppress a well-armed people, the first thing you want to do is disarm them...

Consumer capitalism has already done that. People have become more fat, lazy and stupid than ever. The corporate economy disarmed us a long time ago. Maybe revolution was easier back then because people were more connected with the mechanisms that provided for them. They owned land, grew their own food, participated in their communities... now all most people want to do is go home and watch TV. Even if you put that aside, most people are struggling to survive. They work like slaves 40+ hours a week just to make ends meet in an economy where their dollar is losing value.

I think you vastly overestimate the revolutionary spirit of the U.S. people. It's going to take a lot more to get people motivated to take on their government than back in the days of revolution.
 
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If this thread was started with the intention that readers would immediately say "Oh my goodness gracious, that's terrible," the OP must be throughly disappointed at the sounds of applause in the background.
 
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He's a hothead, but I'm hearing a lot of similar talk from a lot of other gun owners also... people need to realize that if they push too far on this issue there really will be violence... possibly a lot of it.


I hope it doesn't come to that, but Pelosi's bill has some really outrageous, insane stuff in it and the notion of Constitutional infringement by one-man fiat (Executive Order) has many people already beyond enraged.


All the more reason to ban guns. If these hotheads are willing to kill people to keep their guns, then they are clearly violent lawless people who need to be identified and incarcerated. The best way is to ban guns. Then only the freaks like this guy will keep his gun and we can arrest him for illegal gun ownership, preventing another gun massacre.
 
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He's a hothead, but I'm hearing a lot of similar talk from a lot of other gun owners also... people need to realize that if they push too far on this issue there really will be violence... possibly a lot of it.

So in order to keep the 'gun' nuts from going postal others shouldn't use the lawful processes to further their agenda? I'd suggest loose talk about what may or may not happen at the end of the day being some, excuse the phrase, trigger for reactionary 'gun' violence should be stifled.

The guy is a hothead, an idiot and busy planning to triple his classes and class sizes for a few months...

wadda country...
 
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You need to study the Revolution again. Frankly many of the "Intolerable Acts" that kicked off the Rev-war were scarcely any worse than many Federal laws we have today, and the particular incident that caused "The Shot Heard 'Round the World" was the British coming to seize the colonists' weapons.

When you wish to oppress a well-armed people, the first thing you want to do is disarm them...

Last time I looked, there was no army coming to take away your guns.

Only the mentally deranged think that's a realistic possiibility
 
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I've never understood why someone would need an assault rifle, But,I respect their right to have one. I do have some questions for those that are ready to start another civil war over this. How will you know who to shoot. Do you shoot your neighbor because they support a gun ban, how about your cousin or maybe a sibling? We hear a lot about the Militia, when is the point that they take up arms against the Gov? Over the last several decades we've lost a lot of rights, just think Homeland security or the TSA. Now the gun control issue is again front and center. Where is the line for the Militia to stand up?
 
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I've never understood why someone would need an assault rifle, But,I respect their right to have one. I do have some questions for those that are ready to start another civil war over this. How will you know who to shoot. Do you shoot your neighbor because they support a gun ban, how about your cousin or maybe a sibling? We hear a lot about the Militia, when is the point that they take up arms against the Gov? Over the last several decades we've lost a lot of rights, just think Homeland security or the TSA. Now the gun control issue is again front and center. Where is the line for the Militia to stand up?

The answer is , all the tough talkers plan to shoot the soldiers who come to take their weapons away. Of course, the end result of that is that those soldiers will transform them into a cloud of blood, but they know there's no consequence for talking tough.
 
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Why the outrage?

If somebody breaks into your home and takes your posessitions, violence has been initiated against you and you have every right to defend your family and property.
 
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That's insane. Anyone talking in those terms is ****ing nuts. We make things happen at the ballot box in this country. All this crap-talk is juvenile. It really makes gun officienados look like whack jobs.
The Constitution and your rights override busybodies who have no moral authority.
 
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How is the later unlike the former? :2razz:

Sadly, it seems that people who are poor judges of “self defense” and somewhere on the angry side of life are prone to choose that firearms possession. :(

Can I get a big Amen to that brothers and sisters AMEN
 
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To what, be a violence prone jackass? Well yes, up to a point. :)

Even “fundamental enumerated rights” are not unlimited, particularly when they start bumping into each other.

P.S. If you want the fuller access to the 2nd Amendment, sign up for the National Guard. ;)

Keep on truckin
 
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State suspends gun carry permit for TN man who made viral video - WAFB 9 News Baton Rouge, Louisiana News, Weather, Sports

State suspends gun carry permit for TN man who made viral video

CAMDEN, TN (WSMV) -
A Middle Tennessee firearms trainer who made an ominous comment about killing people in a YouTube video that gained national attention this week has had his handgun carry permit suspended Friday by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security.

James Yeager, 42, had his permit suspended based on a "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public," the department said in a statement.

Col. Tracy Trott of the Tennessee Department of Safety said it didn't take him long to reach a decision after viewing the comments on the Internet.


more at link...
 
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They were doing a little bit more than pissing their pants over some gun legislation. Please do not compare these people to them, it is a lie, and it only feeds their delusion that they are some sort of heroes.

They were bitching about taxation without representation and they were among the least taxed of the British colonies. So they were pissing their pants over the idea that the British could raise taxes without their say even though they faced low taxes that were actually being lowered (after repealing the stamp act).

People have a right to feel wary if they think their rights are being trampled on although I do think they're getting a bit worked up over nothing. I mean, nothing's been done yet right? The president's just mentioned gun control and exploring the possibility of an executive order?
 
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I can't imagine the government of our country ever going so far it would cause me to use my weapons in
self defense. But then I could never imagine them electing a radical socialist community organizer who
thinks he doesn't need congresses approval to do whatever he wants either.
It would take a horrible
act on the part of our govt to require me to defend myself or others with weapons from that government,
but to say its impossible is to say no one ever thought of the second amendment either.


As no such person has been elected, then you really don't have anything to worry about - do ya?
 
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It is a Constitutional right. I wonder how you'd feel if the subject was laying severe restrictions on free speech...

they are all fundamental enumerated rights in BoR.
Just how do we know the severity of the proposed restrictions?

Sure, but that in no way absolves them from alteration.
 
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