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Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.....

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But those programs are not mandatory. They need to be.

In the case of disability the cases are reviewed. And if one is determined to be able to work one of two things will happen.
 
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In the case of disability the cases are reviewed. And if one is determined to be able to work one of two things will happen.

The point being, it is a voluntary program. If a similar program was applied to welfare recipients, which is what I was assuming you intended, I wouldn't want it to be voluntary, I'd want it to be mandatory and required to receive a check.
 
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My favorite form of aid is the micro-lending enterprises. Chelsea, I hope you contact him. However, if you can work on your personableness, then you should also be aware that polyglots in America are in relatively short supply. You might be surprised what you don't know is available to you.

you are correct, you can do great things with a small amount of money and some know how and effort. Not every business starts off earning millions of dollars. Most businesses make a living for their owners.
 
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Oh look, the NY Post managed to come up with an excuse to put strippers on their front page! :shock::shock::shock::shock:



no, not shocked at all
 
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Oh look, the NY Post managed to come up with an excuse to put strippers on their front page! :shock::shock::shock::shock:
And I bet that alone made some $ale$.
 
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You are a very bigoted person, you do get all up in arms and use your biase to guide your words. retreat from them now- like you did the double face value food cards- but you leave the trail out there and it is easy to follow.

Not at all if you know what ethnicity of people that are on Food-Stamps. Which just happens to not be those from the Black race. So the rest of it is nothing but that assuming U are use to doing around here.
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Oh look, the NY Post managed to come up with an excuse to put strippers on their front page! :shock::shock::shock::shock:



no, not shocked at all

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REGION, Mass. (WGGB)- After several reports of people misusing their tax-payer funded EBT cards, the Department of Transitional Assistance is trying to do more to stop that. The card’s purpose is to help pay for living essentials. Today, a committee voted to ban the use of the cards from places that don’t provide that- like strip clubs, tattoo shops, and nail salons.

“They have a cash and food side so people try to buy cigarettes with their EBT cards, sure,” said store owner David Glantz of Buckeye Bros. Smokeshop.

The EBT card works just like a debit card which means it can be used almost anywhere. This makes is hard to stop people from abusing the card. But the program hopes this proposal is a step in the right direction.

But there’s another way around the system. Buckeye Bros. Smokeshops sells lottery tickets and tobacco products and only takes cash. The owner says he will see people use the ATM to take out money with their EBT cards then come back to his store to try to buy things they aren’t supposed to.

This seems to happen in many places.

The intention for the cash option was to be used for things like rent that can’t be paid for by a debit transaction. The department says misuse is difficult to track but hopes this proposal passes legislation soon.....snip~

EBT Cards Misuse Probes New Regulations - Western Massachusetts Breaking News and First Warning Weather with WGGB.com ABC 40
March 29th, 2012 <<<<< More here!

WASHINGTON - An investigation into food stamp fraud is getting attention on Capitol Hill.

On Thursday members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform held a hearing to question officials who oversee the nation's food stamp program.

The flawed system is costing taxpayers millions.

The hearings started with what ABC15 Investigators and our partners at Scripps Howard News Service exposed in our investigation.

“What whistleblowers have done for us could have prevented many of those stores from being back in business," said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-CA.

Food stamp scams cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars each year. Store clerks secretly ring up a case of beer as a box of cereal or charge $100 on the chard and give $50 in return.

Repeatedly gaming the system for cash means recipients are even buying big-ticket items.

That's why the government permanently bans about 1,000 retailers nationwide for fraud every year. But our investigation revealed nearly a third of disqualified sites were approved to trade in food stamps again.

“The next analysis on the level of waste has to be one that’s independent from the USDA,” Issa said."


Read more: Food stamp fraud investigation leads to hearing on Capitol Hill

Even Better was the report.....ABC TV did on it as well as the matter going to the House back in March long before the Post even Put their Piece on their Front Page.
 
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(CNSNews.com) -- During fiscal year 2012, the U.S. government spent a record $80.4 billion on food stamps, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), a $2.7 billion increase from FY 2011. (Fiscal year 2012 ran from Oct. 1, 2011 through Sept. 30, 2012.)

According to the Monthly Treasury Statement that summarizes the receipts and outlays of the federal government, $80,401,000,000 went towards SNAP during FY 2012, which was a $2.7 billion increase from $77,637,000,000 in FY 2011.

In total, nearly $106 billion was spent on food assistance in 2012, with $18.3 billion that went to “Child Nutrition Programs.”

Total federal spending on SNAP has increased each year during President Obama’s first term in office. In FY 2009 -- when SNAP was still known as the “Food Stamp” program -- the government spent approximately $55.6 billion.

By FY 2010, SNAP spending increased to nearly $70.5 billion. Between FY 2009 and FY 2012, SNAP’s budget jumped by approximately $24.8 billion.

According to an April 2012 report from the Congressional Budget Office, SNAP outlays increased by $42 billion between 2007 and 2011, and the number of SNAP participants increased by 70 percent.

During FY 2012, the U.S. government ran a $1.089 trillion dollar deficit, down from nearly $1.3 trillion in FY 2011.....snip~

Federal Food Stamp Program Spent Record $80.4B in FY 2012 | CNS News


If the economy was getting so much better like Team Obama says.....then why are more people going on food stamps and welfare?
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The flawed system is costing taxpayers millions.

The hearings started with what ABC15 Investigators and our partners at Scripps Howard News Service exposed in our investigation.
The problem is that oversight also costs money. So, lets say we increase the Fed budget for oversight by $100m to - supposedly - save $150m. Next year Republicans are back in Congress complaining about how much money the Fed spends internally just to run the program. LOL!
 
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Looks like the state needs to tighten their controls.
 
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If the economy was getting so much better like Team Obama says.....then why are more people going on food stamps and welfare?
Because even with extended duration unemployment insurance many have used it all up, which drops their family into (or farther into) the guidelines for SNAP and other forms of government assistance.
 
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The problem is that oversight also costs money. So, lets say we increase the Fed budget for oversight by $100m to - supposedly - save $150m. Next year Republicans are back in Congress complaining about how much money the Fed spends internally just to run the program. LOL!

Still those stats are just from the Federal level and does not count State Assisted Programs. So then there is Aid from the State as well as the Fed and fraud in both systems.

It's quite amusing how Right berfore Jesse Jackson Jr got all caught up into the mess he is in. Was in the House Calling for a Change in Constitutional Amendments. So That Like Obamacare.....That Food and Housing Should be a Right For everyone.

Recently I heard someone was trying to intro Legislation to try and Ban Certain businesses from having the ATM's in them. But I can't remember if it was NY or some other state.
 
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Still those stats are just from the Federal level and does not count State Assisted Programs. So then there is Aid from the State as well as the Fed and fraud in both systems.

It's quite amusing how Right berfore Jesse Jackson Jr got all caught up into the mess he is in. Was in the House Calling for a Change in Constitutional Amendments. So That Like Obamacare.....That Food and Housing Should be a Right For everyone.

Recently I heard someone was trying to intro Legislation to try and Ban Certain businesses from having the ATM's in them. But I can't remember if it was NY or some other state.
At one time (don't know about now) we banned ATM's from casinos. Of course, it was a short trip to the lobby to access one, but still ...

Most businesses here, excluding 24/7 stores (like QT and 7-11) and supermarkets, don't have ATMs.


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There's fraud in any system. The question is, how much money are you willing to spend to save how much money? As the percent of fraud goes down, the cost to prevent it goes up exponentially. For example, $100m in prevention might save you $150 but $200 might only save you $175m. You reach a point of diminishing returns when you try to enforce laws of any kind.
 
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At one time (don't know about now) we banned ATM's from casinos. Of course, it was a short trip to the lobby to access one, but still ...

Most businesses here, excluding 24/7 stores (like QT and 7-11) and supermarkets, don't have ATMs.

Yeah around me they are everywhere. Gas stations/Mini-marts too. There should be no reason for them to have them In Porno shops and or Bars/lounges. That's just those Businesses preying on those who don't have much as is. Not that I am against some guy wanting to drink and look at some goil.

IMO that is a waste of money anyways. For anyone. I like that idea with Casinos but I don't know how that would Work in Vegas, Atlantic City etc etc.
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REGION, Mass. (WGGB)- <snip>
Thank you for your support of my observation of the kind of sleaze rag the NYP is! :D
 
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Thank you for your support of my observation of the kind of sleaze rag the NYP is! :D

Them and the Progressive ABC Televison Broadcast. :lol:
 
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[COLOR=“#h800000”]Them and the Progressive ABC Televison Broadcast[/COLOR]. :lol:
They used stripper footage?
 
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This debate reminds me of the failed drug testing of TANF recipients in Florida. It cost them almost $50K in difference, saved no money, and didn't lighten their caseload an iota. If you look into every pack of cigarettes or every night out at the movies or you name it, spent by people while on TANF it would be throwing money diown the drain just to demonize the poor. According to Floridas results its the minority of welfare recipients on drugs, 2.6%.
If a study were done on wasteful TANF spending I'm sure it would yield the same results. Welfare recipients don't stand in 3 hour lines to check into appointments, spend another 3 hours waiting to see a worker, jump through the hoops of paperwork and job searches and appointments, to buy $200-500 worth of vooze, pot, and sex. And even if they engage in these activities, their children don't. They're innocent and still deserve to be cared for. What good could come from closer nonitoring when the end result is either spend more than is saved on a false pretense or commit a few more thousand kids to the foster care system, spending more money that way? I've sold foodstamps
before. Know why? To keep my gas from being shut off midwinter. Ive also sold them to buy clothes from Goodwill for my kids and to put gas in my car for a week so I could make it to work. Ive seen people sell foodstamps to throw birthday parties and send their kids on field trips... Selling foodstamps isnt always in the pursuit of drugs or alcohol or other forms of debautery. When we received TANF we would withdraw all if it at an ATM and go pay our rent which we had to do through Wells Fargo. Alot of apartments dont allow card payments. They require money orders, cash, or even bank deposits.










If you all want the poor of government roles so badly start petitioning big corporations to pay better wages, offer benefits, hire fulltime, and train their employees instead of expecting people who make $20,00 a year
 
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Post continued... I couldnt edit it on my smartphone.

To stop expecting people making $20,000 a year to pay for expensive training or even college. I have been turned down from a job because I didn't have $50 to get a food handlers card before I was employed! How are you expecting the financially destitute to fix a problem they didn't create? If mom and dad didnt go to college and they dont have money for college or barely enough for bills then the likliehood of JR. getting through college are alot slimmer than the kids of one or two college graduates who can consequently help pay for a better future. Has anyone here been to an inner city high school? It teaches craptastic curriculum and puts one at a disadvantage on their college applications. The whole system is designed to make the poor repeat their cycle of poverty.
 
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They used stripper footage?

Nah, they just showed the front of the Clubs. Bars and even Lil Mom and Pop Grocery stores.
 
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Nah, they just showed the front of the Clubs. Bars and even Lil Mom and Pop Grocery stores.
Exactly.

Again, my point thanks you for your support! :2wave:
 
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Post continued... I couldnt edit it on my smartphone.

To stop expecting people making $20,000 a year to pay for expensive training or even college. I have been turned down from a job because I didn't have $50 to get a food handlers card before I was employed! How are you expecting the financially destitute to fix a problem they didn't create? If mom and dad didnt go to college and they dont have money for college or barely enough for bills then the likliehood of JR. getting through college are alot slimmer than the kids of one or two college graduates who can consequently help pay for a better future. Has anyone here been to an inner city high school? It teaches craptastic curriculum and puts one at a disadvantage on their college applications. The whole system is designed to make the poor repeat their cycle of poverty.

If you're only bringing $20k a year in, you can go to a low cost tech school, that teachs all the remedial stuff for free.
Fafsa will cover the education expenses.
 
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Post continued... I couldnt edit it on my smartphone.

To stop expecting people making $20,000 a year to pay for expensive training or even college. I have been turned down from a job because I didn't have $50 to get a food handlers card before I was employed! How are you expecting the financially destitute to fix a problem they didn't create? If mom and dad didnt go to college and they dont have money for college or barely enough for bills then the likliehood of JR. getting through college are alot slimmer than the kids of one or two college graduates who can consequently help pay for a better future. Has anyone here been to an inner city high school? It teaches craptastic curriculum and puts one at a disadvantage on their college applications. The whole system is designed to make the poor repeat their cycle of poverty.
Hush you and get your pampered Welfare Queen butt back into your shiny new Cadillac! :joke:

I really have a hard time figuring out how much is ignorance, how much is malice, and how much is indifference that perpetuates the intergenerational social class system in the US. Taking comments on this forum at face value, there is at least some measure of ignorance. But I really have a hard time accepting that people like Ronald Reagan are not at least somewhat aware of what they are doing when they fabricate myths to support and even further entrench it.
 
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Not at all if you know what ethnicity of people that are on Food-Stamps. Which just happens to not be those from the Black race. So the rest of it is nothing but that assuming U are use to doing around here.
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Awww now yur just spinning like a top. No one said whining over food cards was racist, your identifying the ministers as black was. I know you will never get that, is ok, I grew up in the south, seeing black as the primary identifier is typical down there.
 
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