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Senior sources suggest that John Boehner will resign Speakership tonight

radcen said:
...yeah, like the Dems never do that. :roll:
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In their private lives, no, they don't. And that's how it should be.

Maybe you're confusing private lives (like who you sleep with and what women do with their bodies) with things like dumping pollution in kids' drinking water -- a common conservative confusion.
 
digsbe said:
What's wrong with being a social conservative?
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Well where do we begin! Social Conservative want to tell people how to live their lives, who they can marry, what they can do with their bodies, when a person can die, they tend to be very small minded and generally want to solve social problems with violence.

Now before you say I am wrong realize everything I wrote can be backed up and cited by the Republican party platform that was written this year and several laws they have treid to pass in the last couple of years. The problem I have with social conservative is they mix religion in with their politics. Which is very dangerous, just take a look at Iran and most Middle Eastern countries.
 
Einzige said:
Perhaps a bit premature, but not entirely implausible. Cantor's a mixed bag; he's supportive of military sequestration, which I support, but he's far more likely to be an activist social conservative.
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Cantor doesn't give a **** about any American other than this bankrollers on Wall Street. Cantor would be a GODAWFUL Speaker. If the GOP nominates him, that frankly proves they don't give a **** about anyone but the 1%. Cantor is the poster child of bending over and grabbing your ankles for the rich.
 
head of joaquin said:
The moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the GOP is coming to light. Whoever they elect will have no credibility as the party can't decide which discredited ideological talking point to obsess on (abortion, Islam, austerity, Obama's birth certificate), but whatever it is, most Americans find it absurd and irrelevant.
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Moral bankruptcy of the GOP? Lets see, a bill just sailed through that increases tax revenue by $62 billion and increases spending by aboug $490 billion. The Democrats are taking a victory lap over its passage....talk about moral bankruptcy!
 
Fishstyx said:
Moral bankruptcy of the GOP? Lets see, a bill just sailed through that increases tax revenue by $62 billion and increases spending by aboug $490 billion. The Democrats are taking a victory lap over its passage....talk about moral bankruptcy!
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And the GOP is there along for the ride waving out the window. It's really sad that both sides cannot see "their" side as a problem and only blame the other side.
 
TheNextEra said:
And the GOP is there along for the ride waving out the window. It's really sad that both sides cannot see "their" side as a problem and only blame the other side.
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Believe me, they're both the problem and I was in no way claiming the GOP has no culpability with it. Personally, would have preferred the cliff. At least it wouldn't have been filled with giveaways to Hollywood, GE, Bacardi, etc.

Yet the ways to address this has been dubbed extreme by the left, by the media. We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. This bill is a perfect example of that.
 
Fishstyx said:
Yet the ways to address this has been dubbed extreme by the left, by the media.
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The problem I have with the right's solution is that it only addresses the spending (i.e. stop the spending), it doesn't address the reason people are using welfare, unemployment, etc.

People need jobs to live, not just min wage jobs. I know several people on assistance programs and it's not because they are lazy. It's because there are simply no jobs out there and there is no training that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Hell, one of my friends has a degree in Electrical Engineering and can't get a job because he is overqualified and people don't want to hire him for fear that he will get another job when the economy gets better. That was a year ago.

The right wants to simply cut those things out (or cut spending in those things drastically) without addressing the reason people use them in the first place. I'll be the first to say we need welfare reform, but at the same time we also need jobs, training, and day care so people can get the training.

Without addressing the reasons people use these things, simply cutting them is only going to cause things to go from bad to worse for folks. Crime rates going up because, etc. is not a good solution either.
 
Einzige said:
I thought we were talking about "moderate" Republicans?
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How is it possible to get radical, right wing conservatives confused with moderate or social conservative? We're talking about Republicans here, not conservatives. Right wing radicals!
 
Fisher said:
Eric Cantor as Speaker of the House would be a DISASTER for the GOP. A Jewish de facto head of the GOP who would alienate every moderate Republican. I cannot see him getting it. Perhaps Boehner plans to resign to run again so that people will have a clear choice and not feel like they have to have him if they do not want him.
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So moderatr Republicans hate Jews? Is there any part of the GOP that doesn't hate everybody else? The party of exclusion.
 
Risky Thicket said:
So moderatr Republicans hate Jews? Is there any part of the GOP that doesn't hate everybody else? The party of exclusion. Good luck all that.
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It isn't the moderates that concern me on that front. It is the chaos that is driving the GOP to dysfunction. The GOP isn't moving to the right--the party is crippled internally and the extreme fiscal right are the closest thing they have to a voice that the media will listen to. The moderates are being pushed out.
 
Fishstyx said:
Believe me, they're both the problem and I was in no way claiming the GOP has no culpability with it. Personally, would have preferred the cliff. At least it wouldn't have been filled with giveaways to Hollywood, GE, Bacardi, etc.

Yet the ways to address this has been dubbed extreme by the left, by the media. We have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. This bill is a perfect example of that.
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We have a both problem and the Problem is that one side only sees a spending problem and the other a revenue problem.

If I may ask ALL you conservatives a sincere question...How can you not think there is a revenue problem along with a spending...when YOUR corporations have sent untold number of jobs to the phillipines, india and china and other places..every one of those jobs sent represents an american not paying taxs and possibly on govt subsistence...along with all the offshores and loopholes that allow the richest and the biggest corporations to pay zero...subisidies to big oil and farms and pharma that they just put in their pocket...this revenue PROBLEM was caused by the rich of the rich out of greed...now they dont even care to acknowledge it...all they want is MORE taken from the working class and poor.
The other side has to stop giving every single one of their pets a gimme that is costing us a fortune...until the gop says to the rich YOU HAVE ENOUGH stfu and the Democrats tell all the skids bums and special interest to stfu...were going nowhere.
 
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