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Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Report

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I wasn't aware that the average person could in fact fix the issue. I thought that was in the hands of the politicians -- the ones who most benefit from election irregularities.

Well then this should be an informative day for you. :mrgreen:

Florida has the initiative process.
 
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I wish we had that here. New York politics could really use that kind of competition.
 
Re: Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Repor

I wish we had that here. New York politics could really use that kind of competition.

Agreed, it really should be all states. It's preserves the citizen's right to petition their government.
 
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What a crock. They would stand in a far longer line for a rock concert with no complaints.

Yea 49,000 people not able to exercise their right is a "crock" :roll:
 
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Yea 49,000 people not able to exercise their right is a "crock" :roll:

Not able to does not equal choosing not to.
 
Re: Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Repor

One day to vote is too hard. There should be like...10 days prior to allow people to vote early and a way they could just mail in their vote and stuff.
 
One day to vote is too hard. There should be like...10 days prior to allow people to vote early and a way they could just mail in their vote and stuff.

Florida does have early voting and absentee voting.
 
Re: Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Repor

Florida does have early voting and absentee voting.
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight (I guess sarcastic intent really DOESNT translate well in writing)
 
Re: Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Repor

Yea 49,000 people not able to exercise their right is a "crock" :roll:

They were perfectly able. They CHOSE not to exercise their vote. Everyone in line at the time of polls closing were aloud to vote.

Still looking for the "Right to Convenience" in the US or FL State Constitution. You find it, provide me a link please.
 
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They were perfectly able. They CHOSE not to exercise their vote. Everyone in line at the time of polls closing were aloud to vote.

Still looking for the "Right to Convenience" in the US or FL State Constitution. You find it, provide me a link please.

You're right. Let's have one polling place per state, and if people don't feel like waiting then that's on them.
 
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You're right. Let's have one polling place per state, and if people don't feel like waiting then that's on them.

As silly as your strawman is, would you wait? I would. Is your vote not worth a little inconvenience?
 
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Who most gains by requiring IDs in Florida is Democrats, not Republicans.

IDs are VERY difficult to get in Florida. Many D.L. offices only issued Drivers Licenses and refuse to issue an ID at all. They will not issue IDs in our city at the DL office. Only Drivers Licenses. So if a person doesn't drive, a person can't vote. To get an ID is quite difficult for those who do, as it trying to get a Florida drivers license if you have an out of state license.

Who most do not have drivers licenses and IDs are elderly. The elderly leaned towards Romney by a 20% margin. Thus, the requirement for IDs or DLs to vote favors Democrats in Florida.

What should be required to vote is an original voter registration card. Upon voting, it should be stamped meaning it can only be used once per election. If a person claimed to have lost their voter registration card, then and only then should an ID be required.
 
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As silly as your strawman is, would you wait? I would. Is your vote not worth a little inconvenience?

It's not a strawman. A strawman would be if I said this was about race or keeping down the little guy. My comparison is right in line with your logic -- if you can't wait long enough to vote that's on you, so why bother having more than one polling place?

At any rate, I will always be happy to wait in line to vote provided that the wait doesn't force me to choose between voting and my personal obligations.
 
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Good job Florida keep it up being the shining example of ****ty electoral process!

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how would they even come to an estimate on such a number? Also, while I will keep an open mind, it does seem weird that this study was conducted by an industrial engineer. Was his research published in a journal, or anything?
 
Re: Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Repor

One day to vote is too hard. There should be like...10 days prior to allow people to vote early and a way they could just mail in their vote and stuff.

Your message strongly suggests that you do not vote. All states have early voting. Why don't you know that?
 
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I read alot of excuses in here for Rick Scott and unfortunately for him florida voters dont see it the same way and that includes more republicans than not.
He with intent to block people from voting in areas he and the gop believed would swing obama is not a secret anymore...there have already been republican florida politicians scared to death they are going to lose their job next election that have admitted to it.
So whether or not theres other ways to vote as some portend its a "RIGHT" its the main "RIGHT" of americans to post their vote "IN" the ballot box on election day unencumbered by political crooks.
You heard it here...Rick Scott will be a one termer unless they put up a real far left nutter against him.
 
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Dan, I'm not sure how the story originating in the Orlando Sentinal addresses the issues I raised above.

That was a "take from that what you will" kind of thing. According to the Sentinel, the research was conducted by someone who has been following this kind of election irregularity since the 2000 elections, and this time around they used data gathered by the Sentinel -- whatever the hell that means (I'm pretty sure it means it wasn't published in a journal).
 
Re: Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Repor

Your message strongly suggests that you do not vote. All states have early voting. Why don't you know that?
Holy ****...how can you not see that was a sarcastic comment?
 
Re: Florida's Long Lines On Election Day Discouraged 49,000 People From Voting: Repor

Who most gains by requiring IDs in Florida is Democrats, not Republicans.

IDs are VERY difficult to get in Florida. Many D.L. offices only issued Drivers Licenses and refuse to issue an ID at all. They will not issue IDs in our city at the DL office. Only Drivers Licenses. So if a person doesn't drive, a person can't vote. To get an ID is quite difficult for those who do, as it trying to get a Florida drivers license if you have an out of state license.

Who most do not have drivers licenses and IDs are elderly. The elderly leaned towards Romney by a 20% margin. Thus, the requirement for IDs or DLs to vote favors Democrats in Florida.

What should be required to vote is an original voter registration card. Upon voting, it should be stamped meaning it can only be used once per election. If a person claimed to have lost their voter registration card, then and only then should an ID be required.

Joko what alien planet did you come from, lol. I and my wife are from Chicago. We went down to the local Broward DL office. We had our new Florida Licences in under an hour with no appointment. It's not that hard if you have correct ID.

As for getting an ID...

Applying for a New Florida DMV Identification Card at DMV.org: The DMV Made Simple

This is not brain surgery, nor is it hard.
 
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