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Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit Own

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Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Maybe next time those journalists will think twice about thier actions.

Hopefully these 'journalist' learned their lesson.
 
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What goes around comes around.

Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit Owners | TechCrunch
A week after the Newtown massacre, The Journal News published an interactive Google Map with the names and addresses of gun permit owners in select New York cities. The bold move has escalated into a transparency arms race, after a Connecticut lawyer posted the phone number and addresses of the Journal‘s staff, including a Google Maps satellite Image of the Publisher’s home. “I don’t know whether the Journal’s publisher Janet Hasson is a permit holder herself, but here’s how to find her to ask,” read Christopher Fountain’s blog post. The double irony here is that open data was heralded as a tool of enlightened civic dialog, and has been co-opted for fierce partisanship, bordering on public endangerment.
The Journal‘s original publication of the map sparked nationwide outrage and thousands of angry comments. Gun permit holding is public information in New York, and can be acquired through a mere request via the Freedom of Information Act. But, coming on the heals of the Newtown shooting, the publication had a clear provocative intent. “New York residents have the right to own guns with a permit and they also have a right to access public information,” said a defiant Hasson.
Given that Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle used in the School shooting was reportedly legally registered with the killer’s mother, the Google Map sparked a debate about whether gun owners should be labeled like other potential menaces to society, “The implications are mind-boggling,” said Marine Scott F. Williams to The Journal News, “It’s as if gun owners are sex offenders (and) to own a handgun risks exposure as if one is a sex offender. It’s, in my mind, crazy.”


Sauce for the goose or, home address and phone number of Journal-News publisher | For What It’s Worth

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/alt.conspiracy/vRrODTabD0I

I disagree. some gun hungry robber might well target say a single woman with a gun permit

paybacks are bitch and sometimes well deserved

this is one of them

You know what they say about an eye for an eye right?
 
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You know what they say about an eye for an eye right?
Funny how people always seem to give a **** after the SECOND eye and not so much after the first.
 
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You know what they say about an eye for an eye right?

Do unto others as you would have others do to you. Those journalists got done to them what they did to people merely exercising their constitutional rights.
 
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Hopefully these 'journalist' learned their lesson.
They aren't even really journalists, in this instance they did a little bit of work but more than half the time all they do is use the AP newswire.
 
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I disagree. some gun hungry robber might well target say a single woman with a gun permit

paybacks are bitch and sometimes well deserved

this is one of them

Hell yeah. Screw those media bullies. I have no sympathy for whatever grief they get. I applaud this tooth for a tooth.
 
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Do unto others as you would have others do to you. Those journalists got done to them what they did to people merely exercising their constitutional rights.

Them doing it first doesn't justify you doing it second.
 
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Them doing it first doesn't justify you doing it second.

To hell if it doesn't. I am not one to be held down on the playground while the bully bloody's my nose. Bullies get what they deserve.
 
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Them doing it first doesn't justify you doing it second.

Yes it does.Without the payback these journalists would assume that they have nothing to fear by posting the names of permit holders. So as long as anti-2nd amendment douches in the media know that someone not only can but will return the favor they will be less likely to pull the same stunt again.
 
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Responding to childish bull by partaking in childish bull. Instead of being the better person, right?

And its not like the gun permit owners were at any risk, other than having their privacy violated; the staff of the Journal ARE at risk to having direct revenge taken upon them. Good idea in jeopardising the safety of tonnes of people many people are apparently angry with.

The man who posted this information is as much and idiot at deserves are much scrutiny as those that posted the gun-permit owners' information.

Not like gun owners are at risk?

Try this on for size....let's say that one or two of those permit holders were abused women who purchased a gun to protect themselves from a violent ex spouse. Now that information, including the address, is out there for all to see. Still think it was just a childish goof?
 
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Yes it does.Without the payback these journalists would assume that they have nothing to fear by posting the names of permit holders. So as long as anti-2nd amendment douches in the media know that someone not only can but will return the favor they will be less likely to pull the same stunt again.

Do you want people to fear permit holders? Isn't that exactly the opposite of why you think people should be allowed to carry, so that they don't have to fear? If you believe this story endangered gun owners, does that make it OK to endanger the person who wrote it? No it doesn't.

To hell if it doesn't. I am not one to be held down on the playground while the bully bloody's my nose. Bullies get what they deserve.

Are we on a playground? I get your analogy but if you're going to hold up a standard of privacy and individual rights, and call this move by these reporters a violation of that, you can't violate that standard just because someone else didn't live up to it. Otherwise you're just being selective and its not a standard. If you're being punched by the bully on the ground, you're allowed to hit him back because you're trying to defend yourself not simply because he did it first and so that gives the right to be an asshole as well.
 
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Do you want people to fear permit holders? Isn't that exactly the opposite of why you think people should be allowed to carry, so that they don't have to fear? If you believe this story endangered gun owners, does that make it OK to endanger the person who wrote it? No it doesn't.



Are we on a playground? I get your analogy but if you're going to hold up a standard of privacy and individual rights, and call this move by these reporters a violation of that, you can't violate that standard just because someone else didn't live up to it. Otherwise you're just being selective and its not a standard. If you're being punched by the bully on the ground, you're allowed to hit him back because you're trying to defend yourself not simply because he did it first and so that gives the right to be an asshole as well.

I get your point. The ol', "two wrongs don't make a right," approach. I suppose it has some validity.

However, that being said, screw 'em. I still hate bullies. Always have. I hope the newspaper people who have been exposed, just as the registered gun owners have been exposed, suffer the same harassment they have put upon these people who are TRYING to be law abiding citizens.

I was a big kid. Bullies usually didn't mess with me. Not more than once, anyhow. I bully bullies. Call me an asshole. I don't care. I intend on bullying bullies until I can't bully them any more.
 
Them doing it first doesn't justify you doing it second.

Your "eye for an eye" argument is wrong for a lot of reasons but primarily because the aggressor is not satisfied with an eye and you would have to be the worst kind of fool to allow an aggressor to attack without response.
 
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Do you want people to fear permit holders?
The intent of those so called journalists was to ostracize or demonize people for merely exercising their 2nd amendment rights. Not to make them fear permit holders.If anything the story provided criminals a map of homes whose occupants are not armed and list of homes for criminals to case if they want to obtain weapons.


Isn't that exactly the opposite of why you think people should be allowed to carry, so that they don't have to fear?

Carrying a weapon for protection and providing a list for criminals are two different things.

If you believe this story endangered gun owners, does that make it OK to endanger the person who wrote it?

Yes it does. Sometimes the only way people are motivate to stop doing something is to have that same thing happen to them.

No it doesn't.


Yes it does make it right.I explained in post 34 why it makes it right.Future anti-2nd amendment loons in the media will less likely pull the same stunt again because they know that people will to return the favor to them.
 
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Your "eye for an eye" argument is wrong for a lot of reasons but primarily because the aggressor is not satisfied with an eye and you would have to be the worst kind of fool to allow an aggressor to attack without response.

I didn't say there shouldn't be a response, the response has to be appropriate. Jamesrage up there talking about how he wants to endanger people is not the right kind of response
 
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I guess the reason I don't feel an ounce of pity for the journalists is because the media in general from print to broadcast has used their soapbox to take sides, advance messages in biased manners, and otherwise mess with people they didn't like. It's a sick kind of justice that they got a taste of what they put out, but not at all inappropriate.
I'll say this much, any "journalist" that would participate in this kind of stuff is no "journalist" at all. So reap what you sow oh "journalist".
 
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I'll say this much, any "journalist" that would participate in this kind of stuff is no "journalist" at all. So reap what you sow oh "journalist".
I agree. Journalists only duty is to report facts, not make stories. A person minding their own business is not a story, breaking their anonymity by publishing that list was. Sad thing is the journalists just made the case against registration much stronger because of this, unintended consequence on their part.
 
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Anyone else wondering why the information was public in the first place? Why should other people be able to know your name, address, and whether you have a permit or not?
 
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Yes it does.Without the payback these journalists would assume that they have nothing to fear by posting the names of permit holders. So as long as anti-2nd amendment douches in the media know that someone not only can but will return the favor they will be less likely to pull the same stunt again.
Not really. What this second list proves is that they can poke the bear and get him to growl. The whole point was getting a reaction, and they got it. If some vigilante gun nut decides to screw with one of these journalists it completely justifies their position in the first place.

A man's wisdom gives him patience; it is to his glory to overlook an offense. Proverbs 19:11
 
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Anyone else wondering why the information was public in the first place? Why should other people be able to know your name, address, and whether you have a permit or not?

I imagine that any sort of government list of permit/license holders (drivers, chauffers, hazmat, doctors, etc.) would necessarily be on the public record.
 
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Anyone else wondering why the information was public in the first place? Why should other people be able to know your name, address, and whether you have a permit or not?
Because the state of New York requires a registration, that registration is not protected against freedom of information laws. It forced people to make their names available in order to exercise their rights.
 
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I imagine that any sort of government list of permit/license holders (drivers, chauffers, hazmat, doctors, etc.) would necessarily be on the public record.
Correct, which fell under freedom of information laws. It's ridiculous all around.
 
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I agree. Journalists only duty is to report facts, not make stories. A person minding their own business is not a story, breaking their anonymity by publishing that list was. Sad thing is the journalists just made the case against registration much stronger because of this, unintended consequence on their part.
I agree. Ultimately it hurts the cause of journalism and highlights the dangers opponents of registration list and databases have been arguing for years. Truly a hackneyed performance by a group of "journalist" that don't resemble journalist.
 
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Not really. What this second list proves is that they can poke the bear and get him to growl. The whole point was getting a reaction, and they got it. If some vigilante gun nut decides to screw with one of these journalists it completely justifies their position in the first place.

A man's wisdom gives him patience; it is to his glory to overlook an offense. Proverbs 19:11
I would just sue them into poverty if anything happened to me after the publishing on the grounds of endangerment.
 
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I imagine that any sort of government list of permit/license holders (drivers, chauffers, hazmat, doctors, etc.) would necessarily be on the public record.
Ic, I can understand if occupational licenses were public, like doctor's/dentist's etc. but more personal licenses like fishing/hunting licenses and gun permits shouldn't be made public I think.
 
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