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Gingrich says GOP should embrace civil marriage equality

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Hmmm, do you think the Newtster is beginning to accept reality?

Gingrich says GOP should embrace civil marriage equality

Newt Gingrich, who was House Speaker when Congress passed the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act in 1996, has told the Huffington Post that the Republican Party must find a way to support civil marriage equality.

Gingrich, in an interview with the online news site, said the Republican Party has been on the wrong side of history on opposing civil marriages for gays and that the party should distinguish between "marriage in a church from a legal document issued by the state."

Gingrich, whose half-sister is gay, told the Huffington Post, "The momentum is clearly now in the direction in finding some way to ... accommodate and deal with reality. And the reality is going to be that in a number of American states – and it will be more after 2014 – gay relationships will be legal, period."
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Newt must of gotten into Pat Robertsons stash because he's starting to make sense.
 
What exactly does it mean when someone or something is said to be on the "Wrong side of history" or on the "Right side of history?"

Is it kind of like when the loons do something that is completely unjustifiable and unfair and they smugly say "It was the right thing to do."
 
Somerville said:
Hmmm, do you think the Newtster is beginning to accept reality?
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Key word there is state. Politicians should live and or die by the positions on matters that the States should be concerned about. On a federal level, he's right; social issues, like, but not limited to gay marriage, have no place in federal politics. Actually, I can think of about 100 current matters that have no place in federal politics, but hey, what do I know.

As far as wrong-side, right-side opf history goes, I'd imagine that the democrats did ok with emancipation of the negroes, civil liberties for blacks, and voting discimination against the blacks, since well they were the party of no at that time, and now look. The negroes love the democrats, so hey, again, what do I know.. Maybe the queers will one day embrace the republicans, like the negroes embrace the democratic party of today? :)


Tim-
 
Ray410 said:
What exactly does it mean when someone or something is said to be on the "Wrong side of history" or on the "Right side of history?"
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I'll answer your question in 2 words, civil rights.

you know, like those that thought and still think blacks are sub-human (this is just one example) and wanted to oppress them.

That's what it means to be on the wrong side of history.
 
Somerville said:
Hmmm, do you think the Newtster is beginning to accept reality?
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I think the "Newtster" is a political opportunist

Nothing more

madman said:
I'll answer your question in 2 words, civil rights.

you know, like those that thought and still think blacks are sub-human (this is just one example) and wanted to oppress them.

That's what it means to be on the wrong side of history.
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Comparing the history of the plight of African Americans in this country to Gay Marriage is laughable and reprehensible
 
He is far from ccepting reality. He wants a damn moon base. However, he may be seeing that the republicans will never succeed if they keep trying to restart the Crusades.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
He is far from ccepting reality. He wants a damn moon base. However, he may be seeing that the republicans will never succeed if they keep trying to restart the Crusades.
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Hyperbolic nonsense
 
Gingrich and Romney the slinky twins.
 
Bronson said:
Dodge noted
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You keep saying that, even though it would imply you made an actual point.

Please, continue with your over-the-top insane partisan hackery.

We all could use a laugh.
 
TheNextEra said:
Not hyperbolic nonsense, he promised a moonbase during his "second" term if he was president.
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Yea because that's what I was referring to ... not

the republicans will never succeed if they keep trying to restart the Crusades.
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Fail. Considering the source, it's par for the course.

Jredbaron96 said:
You keep saying that, even though it would imply you made an actual point.

Please, continue with your over-the-top insane partisan hackery.

We all could use a laugh.
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Actually you're assuming he made an actual point.

Please continue with your over-the-top partisan hackery

We all could use a laugh
 
TheNextEra said:
Not hyperbolic nonsense, he promised a moonbase during his "second" term if he was president.



Gingrich promises moon base that could become 51st state | The Raw Story
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If we eventually want to survive as a species, we would need to learn how to survive living in space, no? Wouldn't it make sense to live on (And off of) the moon first?

Of course that's all forward type thinking, and as we all know, people these days don't think ahead by generations, unless of course we're spending their cash. :)


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
If we eventually want to survive as a species, we would need to learn how to survive living in space, no? Wouldn't it make sense to live on (And off of) the moon first?

Of course that's all forward type thinking, and as we all know, people these days don't think ahead by generations, unless of course we're spending their cash. :)


Tim-
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That's fine and dandy, but promising to fullfill this by your second term given the debt problems we have now? Come on, get serious. Gingrich WAS a basket case for suggesting this.
 
TheNextEra said:
That's fine and dandy, but promising to fullfill this by your second term given the debt problems we have now? Come on, get serious. Gingrich WAS a basket case for suggesting this.
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We were in a lot worse shape in the 60's when Kennedy wanted to go to the moon, but hey, whatever. No one wanted to pony up cash for Columbus either until the queen of spain gave him what amounts to a drop in the bucket so the darn fool could sail off the edge of the Earth, or heck he might actually find another route to the East? What happened next is, well, history.

What gets me about progressives, mainly, is that they resist progress in obvious places. Space exploration is one of those obvious and necessary places, and yet alot of them are opposed to the idea. Look, we currently have no way of deflecting a good sized asteroid if one were heading our way. Going to, and surviving on the moon isn't some waste of money, it absolutely necessary for us as a species if we plan to survive.


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
We were in a lot worse shape in the 60's when Kennedy wanted to go to the moon, but hey, whatever. No one wanted to pony up cash for Columbus either until the queen of spain gave him what amounts to a drop in the bucket so the darn fool could sail off the edge of the Earth, or heck he might actually find another route to the East? What happened next is, well, history.

What gets me about progressives, mainly, is that they resist progress in obvious places. Space exploration is one of those obvious and necessary places, and yet alot of them are opposed to the idea. Look, we currently have no way of deflecting a good sized asteroid if one were heading our way. Going to, and surviving on the moon isn't some waste of money, it absolutely necessary for us as a species if we plan to survive.


Tim-
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LOL so it's ok to go into debt more as long as it is stuff you want. Got it, the conservative way.
 
TheNextEra said:
LOL so it's ok to go into debt more as long as it is stuff you want. Got it, the conservative way.
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That's just silly. Most, if not all conservatives were horrified when Obama gutted NASA, frankly, however, how much of a stink did we make of it? Not much, and do you know why? Because we thought the president was serious about fiscal issues, and like military cuts we conservatives can suck it up IF the president is serious about fiscal policy. Well, we were had again, and as skeptical as we conservatives are, we still believe in the promise of the American idea. Unlike those on the left that think we can just spend and spend, and tax and tax, on the left there is not tit for tat, it's just more please, get them rich guys, suck em dry, yeah, yeah!!

You want to add up the integrity score between conservatives and liberals? Not even close buddy..


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
That's just silly. Most, if not all conservatives were horrified when Obama gutted NASA, frankly, however, how much of a stink did we make of it? Not much, and do you know why? Because we thought the president was serious about fiscal issues, and like military cuts we conservatives can suck it up IF the president is serious about fiscal policy. Well, we were had again, and as skeptical as we conservatives are, we still believe in the promise of the American idea. Unlike those on the left that think we can just spend and spend, and tax and tax, on the left there is not tit for tat, it's just more please, get them rich guys, suck em dry, yeah, yeah!!

You want to add up the integrity score between conservatives and liberals? Not even close buddy..


Tim-
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Nothing you posted escapes the fact that you have NO problem with increasing the debt as long as it is for a program YOU want. That's the conservative way!
 
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