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TheNextEra said:
Nothing you posted escapes the fact that you have NO problem with increasing the debt as long as it is for a program YOU want. That's the conservative way!
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You don't really believe for a second that YOU lib's, or democrats don't want to spend on defense (Coz not too many voters in the military for liberal democrats), and instead rather spend it on food stamps, birth control for women, and un-means tested welfare for the poor and downtrodden (Coz there's plenty of votes there).

The difference between my wants for space exploration is that, last time I checked, space exploration was politically blind. Even poor and downtrodden dream about going to the stars one day. Besides, it wouldn't increase the debt if we stopped giving away our money in foreign aid, cut out funding ridiculous programs that study whether laughing a lot makes for a happier person.. :)


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
If we eventually want to survive as a species, we would need to learn how to survive living in space, no? Wouldn't it make sense to live on (And off of) the moon first?

Of course that's all forward type thinking, and as we all know, people these days don't think ahead by generations, unless of course we're spending their cash. :)


Tim-
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Why?

The Bible doesn't mention anything about moon bases, after all. And if you follow Christian eschatology, you'd know that the End-Times makes moon bases irrelevant.

;-)
 
Somerville said:
Hmmm, do you think the Newtster is beginning to accept reality?
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I think it means that he's exploring the possibilities of running again in 2016.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
He is far from ccepting reality. He wants a damn moon base. However, he may be seeing that the republicans will never succeed if they keep trying to restart the Crusades.
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You know a moon base to mine Helium 3 for Fusion would be astronomically valuable no?

Newt has lots of grand ideas, which at their core premises aren't bad, but his problem to the GOP is that he inherently isn't anti-Government. Newt views Government in many ways that Clinton does: a tool to reach goals.
 
Hicup said:
That's just silly. Most, if not all conservatives were horrified when Obama gutted NASA
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Uh a 5% cut in times of record debts and deficits is not "gutting."

Furthermore, moving NASA out of the taxi service should result in cuts.

On some grounds, Conservatives should be championing this move. NASA's taxi service was a Socialist program where the government owned and operated the means of production. Now, private companies are doing the work for cheaper.
 
Somerville said:
Hmmm, do you think the Newtster is beginning to accept reality?
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Maybe Newt is finally realizing that pandering to the whackjawed Social extremists is a losing venture?

There is no decent reason to bar gays from getting married in America.

Begs the question if Newt really ever was a Social Con himself.
 
Hicup said:
Look, we currently have no way of deflecting a good sized asteroid if one were heading our way.
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What makes you believe this? We still retain the capacity to launch sizable probes into space. And you don't need that much to simply use gravity to change the trajectory of a relatively large asteroid or comet if you detect it well enough in advance. What we don't have is a good way of stopping a good sized asteroid on short notice.
 
Did Newt run out of women who would marry and divorce him? Is this his Plan B?



Joking aside, that is pretty cool.
 
obvious Child said:
What makes you believe this? We still retain the capacity to launch sizable probes into space. And you don't need that much to simply use gravity to change the trajectory of a relatively large asteroid or comet if you detect it well enough in advance. What we don't have is a good way of stopping a good sized asteroid on short notice.
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Hehe, dude we can't stop a decent size asteroid, period! How is it that you think we have the science to stop a good sized asteroid even 20 years in advance?


Tim-
 
obvious Child said:
You know a moon base to mine Helium 3 for Fusion would be astronomically valuable no?

Newt has lots of grand ideas, which at their core premises aren't bad, but his problem to the GOP is that he inherently isn't anti-Government. Newt views Government in many ways that Clinton does: a tool to reach goals.
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And a moon base would be ridiculously expensive in a time frame where we are like to still be in double digit trillions in debt no? That is a grand idea indeed! :congrats:
 
Hicup said:
Hehe, dude we can't stop a decent size asteroid, period! How is it that you think we have the science to stop a good sized asteroid even 20 years in advance?

Tim-
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Why do you say that? What's stopping us from taking the delivery systems use to deploy exploratory probes and use as a gravity tool to change the trajectory of an asteroid? Or better yet, release light and heat absorbing material into its path and let solar activity do that for us? The hardest part about that is finding them in time. Getting the tools up there isn't that hard and we do have the capacity right now to do so. What we can't do is reliably and safely stop a large asteroid on short notice. If we find it out 10 years from impact, that is well more then enough to solve the problem. Give a year or 6 months and we're reliant upon nukes. And that won't go well.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
And a moon base would be ridiculously expensive in a time frame where we are like to still be in double digit trillions in debt no? That is a grand idea indeed! :congrats:
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Doing it in 10 years would be crazy. Doing it on 30? Not so much. The idea behind it is still solid. But we're better off getting fusion working first before we go to the Moon for fuel.
 
obvious Child said:
Doing it in 10 years would be crazy. Doing it on 30? Not so much. The idea behind it is still solid. But we're better off getting fusion working first before we go to the Moon for fuel.
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By the time that it would be economically feasible to even consider constant lunar travel, we will most likely have advanced enough for on earth fuels to be plentiful. Algae shows promise. I'm not saying it's a stupid idea, it is just literally out of this world.
 
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