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'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains why

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Caine said:
Sociology? No thanks.

Sociology is the study of how whitey is evil based on statistics that make assumptions without supporting evidence for said assumptions.
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The fact that this is your opinion on sociology is just more proof that you need to get educated. I'm not saying that in a condescending way, I'm just saying that concept seems really ignorant.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I could see that having a pretty big impact, but how would that account for their academic success? I'm pretty sure even when studies take into account income and education level of the parents, AA students heavily under perform.
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I would say it has to do with the group in question. Nigerians can be divided into three large ethnic groups with a few smaller ones (The Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo). It's been my experience that the most successful in business and academics are the Yoruba and Igbo as they had a working environment in which they saw tangible growth the more they worked. The British instilled a working ethic that provided what I would call 'group growth through colonialism'. The problem with Nigerians was that this work ethic wasn't as strongly applied up North where the Hausa lived. This was because economic conditions up in Northern Nigeria were not as great as that of the more hospitable South. As such, today in Nigeria you have a very real discrepancy of wealth with Northern Nigerians being generally poorer than their Southern brethren and with less work opportunities.

All this to say, is that it really depends on which kind of Nigerian you're speaking of. For every 1 successful Igbo/Yoruba you are more than likely to find 2 poor Hausa.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I don't "excuse" anything. And I've already asked and answered those questions out of pure curiosity because I'm educated on the subject. Maybe you should educate yourself so that you can look back and laugh at yourself for all of startlingly uninformed things you spew in threads about race and racism.
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You're "educated on this subject"? :lamo
 
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Caine said:
So because there is a long history of disparities there exists racism?
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A long history of discrepancies? You mean current existing discrepancies.

So no need to look for the CURRENT CAUSE of said disparities..... just as long as they exist then it is instant racism?
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Please take a course in sociology. You're hurting yourself.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
That sounds (so to speak) very uneducated. Sorry, but it does.
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It is sarcasm......
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
I finally figured it out . . . Jamie Foxx and all those elite black people are perpetrating a fraud against the white man to keep the white man down.
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Hardly......
 
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Caine said:
It is sarcasm......
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Well, with your past words in the thread, that is really hard to see. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin', you have developed a reputation that has preceded you in this thread.
 
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Hatuey said:
Please take a course in sociology. You're hurting yourself.
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So you still can't show racism is the cause of the disparities.... Or are you even claiming that.

I acknowledge there are disparities..... I reject the implication that the disparities are based on racism without some sort of evidence that points to racism.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Well, with your past words in the thread, that is really hard to see. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin', you have developed a reputation that has preceded you in this thread.
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Of what? Someone who doesn't accept that racism is everywhere and all around me?


People are racist.

Individuals are racist.

Our society is not racist.

Nothing but society will change my opinion on that matter.
 
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Caine said:
So you still can't show racism is the cause of the disparities.... Or are you even claiming that.
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Actually, I've shown hundreds upon hundreds of sources explaining where racism as a concept is modernly embodied in government policies, hiring practices, wealth inequalities etc. You refuse to acknowledge it the same way Evangelicals claim that evolution is not a fact because there isn't a croco-duck fossil. Not much I can do about your denial. :shrug:
 
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Caine said:
So a trailer park white person is a couple steps ahead of Micheal Jordan's kids? Bull****.
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If two kids were to pursue the same path with the same resources, the black kid is more likely come across obstacles than the white kid. It sucks, and we need to do as much as we can to remove those obstacles, but that's unfortunately how it is, even 50 years after civil rights movements.

Why do you assume white people don't have to deal with racism from blacks for the rest of their lives any more or less than blacks have to deal with racism for the rest of theirs?
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Because they don't. The system is already sort of fixed in favor of the straight, white, wealthy male.

Generally, a white person can willingly put themselves in a situation where they are victims of racial discrimination, but they can also willingly remove themselves from that. I don't fault them for that, nor blame them, that's sort of where "white guilt" comes from, which is something that's been fabricated by the left to deal with racism. However, I think it's important that white people understand that they have a certain privilege that other groups of people do not.

I haven't come across a situation in which a white person experiences racism for their entire life the way a black person might, can you give me an example so I understand?
 
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Caine said:
So you still can't show racism is the cause of the disparities.... Or are you even claiming that.

I acknowledge there are disparities..... I reject the implication that the disparities are based on racism without some sort of evidence that points to racism.
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I cannot show it here . . . but I see it every damn day. White people saying, "Nigger" every frickin' day. It exists . . . in fact it is right here in this thread. Even if they cannot intellectually be honest about it . . . certain folks have established their true nature.
 
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'I come into this place to do a photo shoot and they got Ritz crackers and cheese.

'I'll be like, ain't this a b***h. Y'all didn't know black people was coming.'

In the same vein he explained that if he turned up to the photo shoot and there was fried chicken and watermelon, he would also be annoyed at the stereotype.
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Ok, so this begs the question: What snacks would have been acceptable?

Seriously. While I have no doubt there are legitimate issues that need to be resolved overall, this particular gripe comes off as just griping for gripe's sake. It sounds like the people who hosted are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
 
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radcen said:
Ok, so this begs the question: What snacks would have been acceptable?

Seriously. While I have no doubt there are legitimate issues that need to be resolved overall, this particular gripe comes off as just griping for gripe's sake. It sounds like the people who hosted are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Next time they can offer chicken and waffles.
 
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radcen said:
Ok, so this begs the question: What snacks would have been acceptable?

Seriously. While I have no doubt there are legitimate issues that need to be resolved overall, this particular gripe comes off as just griping for gripe's sake. It sounds like the people who hosted are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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I think that was a bit of a joke. Everybody likes chicken.
 
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Caine said:
Of what? Someone who doesn't accept that racism is everywhere and all around me?


People are racist.

Individuals are racist.

Our society is not racist.

Nothing but society will change my opinion on that matter.
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You are white, oops I am sorry, "You are right" . . . only individuals are racist. You are right, the average black man is the same as an average white guy. No really . . . they are exactly the same. And . . . since you taught me I have been a victim of racism . . . I guess they must experience it too. But it is the same none-the-less.

I got to tell ya . . . I am feeling really oppressed right now.
 
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Mathematician said:
Next time they can offer chicken and waffles.
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I guess.

Personally, I'd have preferred fried chicken over Ritz & cheese, and I'm a white guy. I've never been a big fan of watermelon, though it's not spit-it-out-bad, either.

But really, it's fricken crackers & cheese. It probably has more to do with being cheap, not being white.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
I cannot show it here . . . but I see it every damn day. White people saying, "Nigger" every frickin' day. It exists . . . in fact it is right here in this thread. Even if they cannot intellectually be honest about it . . . certain folks have established their true nature.
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Where do you live? I'm not denying your experience, it's just that the only time I've heard that word used in anything other than legitimate discussions about racism or the movies has been from the mouths of urban black youths (at least in the last couple decades).

But then I've lived in the Western states during that time.
 
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Mathematician said:
You're "educated on this subject"? :lamo
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An uneducated person who doesn't realize his own ignorance would laugh at that.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
I cannot show it here . . . but I see it every damn day. White people saying, "Nigger" every frickin' day. It exists . . . in fact it is right here in this thread. Even if they cannot intellectually be honest about it . . . certain folks have established their true nature.
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I hear "nigger" everyday, too. When I'm flipping through the radio stations or tv channels, I consistently hear it strictly in the entertainment created by blacks. Certain folks have established their true nature.
 
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radcen said:
Ok, so this begs the question: What snacks would have been acceptable?

Seriously. While I have no doubt there are legitimate issues that need to be resolved overall, this particular gripe comes off as just griping for gripe's sake. It sounds like the people who hosted are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Why do so many people not realize that he was making a JOKE? For goodness sake people, get a grip. It wasn't a serious gripe. It was a joke.
 
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Mathematician said:
I hear "nigger" everyday, too. When I'm flipping through the radio stations or tv channels, I consistently hear it strictly in the entertainment created by blacks. Certain folks have established their true nature.
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Yes . . . that is exactly the same thing. Honestly . . . all I can think is . . . really? Do you think black people invented the word, "Nigger". Or it was invented around the time Hip Hop came into existence? You see . . . that word in itself proves how generations are being effected by that little blot on America's resume. You have to feel bad about how bad white people got it now-a-days to even bring this up.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Yes . . . that is exactly the same thing. Honestly . . . all I can think is . . . really? Do you think black people invented the word, "Nigger". Or it was invented around the time Hip Hop came into existence? You see . . . that word in itself proves how generations are being effected by that little blot on America's resume. You have to feel bad about how bad white people got it now-a-days to even bring this up.
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Huh? No one seriously thinks the word was just coined, but it was on it's way out of the lexicon. The word had gained a rep of being so nasty and hateful anyone who uttered it was looked upon with disdain. UNTIL some maroon thought co-opting the word would "empower" black folks.

Since then the word came back into the language with a "legitimate" use. Sad really.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
Why do so many people not realize that he was making a JOKE? For goodness sake people, get a grip. It wasn't a serious gripe. It was a joke.
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Maybe the rest of society has been conditioned to be over-sensitive in it's own right.

Ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?
 
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clownboy said:
Huh? No one seriously thinks the word was just coined, but it was on it's way out of the lexicon. The word had gained a rep of being so nasty and hateful anyone who uttered it was looked upon with disdain. UNTIL some maroon thought co-opting the word would "empower" black folks.
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Realistically, has any negative word in history successfully made it out of the lexicon? Why should it? It's just a word, intent matters more.
 
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