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'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains why

Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Conservatives don't really understand the term 'generational effects'. They feel that if one guy can make it out of poverty, so can everyone else and the rest is moot. 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow and government imposed poverty done away with in 1964. Lolz.

A hell of a lot more can make their way out of poverty if they actually try.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

They were hated for what? 6 years? That's 1/5th of a generation. Call me back when they were enslaved for 200 years. :)

And Reagan gave them money too.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Are you trying to look stupid?

Are you trying to be worthless?
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

They were hated for what? 6 years? That's 1/5th of a generation. Call me back when they were enslaved for 200 years. :)

Blacks weren't enslaved for 200 years.

1776-1860. That is not even 100 years. Don't exagerate. Anyway, slavery in the american colonies had become law of the land when a black man in Virginia claimed that he had ownership over another black man, and the judge decided that he was correct. And slavery became legal.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Bull**** dude....

Complaints of racism are taken at face value without evidence.....

Jena 6...... The "Toilet paper in a bucket that looked like a noose in a broom closet at UNC"....... The Duke Lacrosse case........ George Zimmerman the evil racist black kid killer..........
I would imagine it's difficult to find "evidence" of racist intent or personal opinions on race.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Here - let me craft a nice woven rope of J6/1-3/1 for you out of titanium.

It'll be an artistic flair.

I will throw the rope back at you..eko..eko azarak...

Be careful what you wish for...
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Spoken like someone who will never experience what it is to be oppressed, to see signs every day that society values you less. It is inescapable. It never goes away. Every black American experiences this, every Hispanic, every Jew, every Muslim, every atheist, every woman, every homosexual, every Indian (Hindu or American), every Asian, and everyone who isn't the supposed "default" heterosexual white Christian male in this country. It comes up literally every day of your life that society treats you as inferior.



No, you don't get it. You probably never will. And no, no one expects you to be color-blind. No one expects anyone to be color-blind. But you have the option not to be. Jamie Fox doesn't. And color-blindness isn't the issue. It's bigotry that is. It's viewing races as in competition with each other. It's assuming that a person's race necessarily affects their character, rather than understanding that character comes from background which is affected by the way we treat different races.

I'm not color-blind and no one has ever accused me of being racist.

It sounds like you have made up your mind to be an exploited, suffering victim and you're not going to let any sumbch take that way from you.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

I seriously wonder if some people here realize that Jamie Foxx is not the the spokesmen for all black people in America.

However, he admitted to an attitude that is OBSERVED via action and attitude in alot of blacks in America.
 
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I wasn't the one who worded it.... because I didn't post the comment, just responded to your response.
lol sorry
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

A hell of a lot more can make their way out of poverty if they actually try.

Your view is simplistic at best.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Blacks weren't enslaved for 200 years. 1776-1860.

Slavery in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The first 19 or so blacks arrived ashore near Jamestown, Virginia, in 1619, brought by Dutch traders who had seized them from a captured Spanish slave ship. The Spanish usually baptized slaves in Africa before embarking them and English law considered baptized Christians exempt from slavery, so these Blacks joined about 1,000 English indentured servants already in the colony. Some achieved freedom, owned land, and one later owned the American Colonies' first true slave.[11]

You need to pick up a history book buddy. Slavery existed in the colonies long before 1776.
 
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Here's what you don't understand: Sixty years ago, the Japanese were the most hated race in America, now they are the richest race in America. So much for your "generational effects."

It's no coincidence, the rankings of unemployment by race are identical to the rankings of average GPA. It fits with how much education and hard work are valued by each.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

They were hated for what? 6 years? That's 1/5th of a generation. Call me back when they were enslaved for 200 years. :)

So the "Generational Effects" formula only works if every aspect of suffering is equal in every respect. OK, I think I got it now, it only applies to black people then. The Irish get no points for being starved out by the British and then not hired in America, the Japanese get no points for being bombed off their island and sequestered in the United States, the specific elements only apply to the specific circumstances of black people. OK, that's good. Very good.
 
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It's no coincidence, the rankings of unemployment by race are identical to the rankings of average GPA. It fits with how much education and hard work are valued by each.

Yep, we never took education away from them . . . good point. We also did not break up their families and sell them. Just sayin'
 
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Okay fine, so what is your point? That because racism is embedded in ourselves that we don't do something about it?

No. I am saying that if you agree with Jamie Foxx and other liberals who claim that prominent blacks are "put down" by people beacuse of racism, despite the fact that there are prominent blacks in ALL important areas of life, from politics(congressmen, the bloody president) to business (CEOs)to showbis and more... in a world where racism is being discredited and one who is identified as a racist pays a HUGE price in his public image and his safety (as it happened with zimm, black panthers putting a bounty on him)... so a world where one who is identified as a racist is stigmatized and marginalized... you would have to be insane to be a racist.

So why are there still racists?

Because if all those things are true, and they are, then the only logical deduction to make for the existence of racism so prominent and so powerful in the world today... is because it is a crucial, paramount part of human nature. And not just that, but it is embedded deep within us as human beings. It is our very nature to be racist and so much so that we cannot ignore it. It is even more powerful than hunger, cold, and all other natural responses to the world around us.

If... we accept this story. this narrative, then what I said above is indisputable.
 
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So the "Generational Effects" formula only works if every aspect of suffering is equal in every respect. OK, I think I got it now, it only applies to black people then.
Nope, there are still generational effects for Japanese Americans. The scale is just different. Not all marginalization is the same with the same consequences. Racism is different from sexism which is different from homophobia and so on.
 
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Your view is simplistic at best.

Your effort to discredit my statement is just as piss poor as the effort from the average Detroit high school kid.
 
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Slavery in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You need to pick up a history book buddy. Slavery existed in the colonies long before 1776.

As I said, those were the american colonies, not the USA. The USA was formed after the war of independence.

I repeat, see "american colonies".

Blacks weren't enslaved for 200 years.

1776-1860. That is not even 100 years. Don't exagerate. Anyway, slavery in the american colonies had become law of the land when a black man in Virginia claimed that he had ownership over another black man, and the judge decided that he was correct. And slavery became legal.
 
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So the "Generational Effects" formula only works if every aspect of suffering is equal in every respect. OK, I think I got it now, it only applies to black people then.

Hm, says who? We find generational effects everywhere there is a long term discrimination. Long term being multi-generational. Example, the rise of China Towns and Little Italy's is directly attributable to generations of discrimination. 6 years of discrimination will hardly make a dent in a group's ability to bounce back.
 
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But you have the option not to be. Jamie Fox doesn't.
Explain. Why does Jamie Fox not have the option to be color blind if he wants to be?

It's bigotry that is. It's viewing races as in competition with each other.
Which is exactly what Jamie Fox does.

It's assuming that a person's race necessarily affects their character, rather than understanding that character comes from background which is affected by the way we treat different races.
Which is exactly what folks like Jamie Foxx do.

I'm not color-blind and no one has ever accused me of being racist.
Because you are an apologist.
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

No. I am saying that if you agree with Jamie Foxx and other liberals who claim that prominent blacks are "put down" by people beacuse of racism, despite the fact that there are prominent blacks in ALL important areas of life, from politics(congressmen, the bloody president) to business (CEOs)to showbis and more... in a world where racism is being discredited and one who is identified as a racist pays a HUGE price in his public image and his safety (as it happened with zimm, black panthers putting a bounty on him)... so a world where one who is identified as a racist is stigmatized and marginalized... you would have to be insane to be a racist.

So why are there still racists?

Because if all those things are true, and they are, then the only logical deduction to make for the existence of racism so prominent and so powerful in the world today... is because it is a crucial, paramount part of human nature. And not just that, but it is embedded deep within us as human beings. It is our very nature to be racist and so much so that we cannot ignore it. It is even more powerful than hunger, cold, and all other natural responses to the world around us.

If... we accept this story. this narrative, then what I said above is indisputable.
So then what do we do about it?
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

As I said, those were the american colonies, not the USA. The USA was formed after the war of independence.

Good for you. I stated blacks experienced 200+ years of slavery. That statement stands. Wait, are you saying blacks had it better after the US was founded or something?
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

It is cheap and whiny when no such evidence exists. This guy was complaining about Ritz crackers and cheese being racist. Was it the 'cracker' part that got to him?

I'm not denying that racism, sexism or homophobia doesn't exist, I'm only saying that sometimes people just do something rude or unthoughtful that has nothing to do with race. Rudeness and ignorance happens to all people.

I don't see what is rude or ignorant about Ritz Crackers and Cheese.

I happen to love them.... especially when its that Cheese that comes out of the can when you push the nozzle to the side.....
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Yep, we never took education away from them . . . good point. We also did not break up their families and sell them. Just sayin'

...and just how in the heck does that prevent them from studying in school worth a crap today?
 
Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

Conservatives don't really understand the term 'generational effects'. They feel that if one guy can make it out of poverty, so can everyone else and the rest is moot. 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow and government imposed poverty done away with in 1964. Lolz.

Must be nice to have a built in excuse for failure.

I grew up poor, Im white....... I have no built in excuse.....

A black person in my same exact situation and born in my same generation can still point to a time 3-5 generations prior to his/her own birth.
 
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