'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains why

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ThePlayDrive said:

Yeah, that's called "white privilege" and the reality of racism, sexism, homophobia and other forms of discrimination are not "cheapest, whiniest possible explanations." It's a reality you will rarely, if ever, have to wonder if someone is thinking less of you because of your race or have to wonder whether or not people are going to see your failure as a representation of all blacks or Muslims or Hispanics and so on. Be thankful for that instead of denigrating people who don't have that luxury.

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It is cheap and whiny when no such evidence exists. This guy was complaining about Ritz crackers and cheese being racist. Was it the 'cracker' part that got to him?

I'm not denying that racism, sexism or homophobia doesn't exist, I'm only saying that sometimes people just do something rude or unthoughtful that has nothing to do with race. Rudeness and ignorance happens to all people.

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Paschendale said:

No, you don't get it. You probably never will. And no, no one expects you to be color-blind. No one expects anyone to be color-blind. But you have the option not to be. Jamie Fox doesn't. And color-blindness isn't the issue. It's bigotry that is. It's viewing races as in competition with each other. It's assuming that a person's race necessarily affects their character, rather than understanding that character comes from background which is affected by the way we treat different races.

I'm not color-blind and no one has ever accused me of being racist.

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Mother****ing thank you!

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Verthaine said:

I seriously wonder if some people here realize that Jamie Foxx is not the the spokesmen for all black people in America.

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He is this week . . . or this time a white person feels insulted by one of those pesky blacks . . . ungrateful sons of biatches.

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Conservatives don't really understand the term 'generational effects'. They feel that if one guy can make it out of poverty, so can everyone else and the rest is moot. 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow and government imposed poverty done away with in 1964. Lolz.

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Rainman05 said:

No no no. If A B C D E F and all those are true, then racism is part and parcel of human nature. If you diminish it, you diminish humanity because despite all the ideology in the world and in the most ideologically infused places, it still rises to the surface. It like a natural, normal response of human beings to have. Like all other natural responses to the environment. Like reaction to hunger, cold, hot, etc.

A) There are prominent blacks in all aspects of public life (government, congress, etc)
B) There are prominent blacks in all aspect of intellectual life (thomas sowell, Neil degrasse tyson, the most popular ones)
C) There are prominent blacks in sports (you name it)
D) There are prominent blacks in business (CEO of Mcdonalds and Xerox-> its even a black woman)
E) There are prominent blacks in showbis, the most liberal environemnt in the world.
F) Everywhere in general... you can find prominent blacks

Again. if all these are true... and they are... because they are facts... then there is no way around it. To be a racist is to be a human being and diminishing it will diminish you as a human being.

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That's hilarious.

Just because there are prominent black people in these positions does not automatically erase racism.

Or you can choose to accept that many of the ones who complain about racism are actually full of ****. Especially the big holywood stars and other prominent blacks.

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I didn't know that Hollywood stars speak for entire peoples.

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Aunt Spiker said:

Apparently so do you.

What's your real issue?

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Nice turnaround AS..if i make enough rope...will you allow me to hang myself??

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Cilogy said:

That would be ideal if maybe racism didn't exist anymore, but one of the biggest problems today is that our society superficially believes racism and racial discrimination are officially over, so that when someone does come forth with legitimate observations about racism or legitimate complaints about discrimination, they're brushed off and told to "get over it".

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Because their complaints are legitimate 95% of the time.

There is no evidence its just.... """""""" I JUST *KNOW* """"""

Not only does it ignore the problem, it just make the problem worse.

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The problem is made worse by people claiming racism without nary a bit of evidence that racism exists.

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ThePlayDrive said:

LOL at a white guy "expecting" non-white people to get over "it" because they aren't doing so quickly enough for him. Please stop talking.

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I shall not stop talking.

Get over it.

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Superfly said:

So because things are hard for them, they should complain about it? Just give up? Do you see Melissa McCarthy (she's the large white girl in Bridesmaids) complaining about how tough it is for an overweight, white woman to make it in Hollywood? No, she just did it. What about Steve Buscemi complaining about how hard it is for ugly people to make it in Hollywood? They both have issues that keep them from having perfect lives. They still succeeded, and millions of black people all over the world do this, every day. Doctors, lawyers, quantum physicists, everything. They don't let race stand in the way of their lives. They know they are black, they know that there are always going to be people like Wolfie who think they are second class because of their skin color, but they just move on and get on with their lives, and stop worrying about it. Seems like Jamie Foxx needs to take a lesson from them.

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One of the complaints, as I stated before, from the black actors and actresses community is that they tend to be pigeonholed in certain types of roles.

And Melissa McCarthy, as a large white woman, will be likely to be similarly pigeonholed as well.

So I will believe that such things don't matter any more when Melissa McCarthy is able to play a variety of dramatic roles if she auditions for them and seems capable of fulfilling those roles.

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Grant said:

It is cheap and whiny when no such evidence exists. This guy was complaining about Ritz crackers and cheese being racist. Was it the 'cracker' part that got to him?

I'm not denying that racism, sexism or homophobia doesn't exist, I'm only saying that sometimes people just do something rude or unthoughtful that has nothing to do with race. Rudeness and ignorance happens to all people.

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When "no such evidence exists" means nothing more than "I didn't see anything that convinced me." The thing is, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. And the Ritz crackers comment was a JOKE - a little racial humor.

I agree that sometimes people misinterpret people's actions as racist, sexist or whatever. People misinterpret each other's actions all the time. A black person might misinterpret someone's treatment of him as "racism" when the person mistreating is just generally a jerk to everyone. A husband might misinterpret his wife's desire to go out with friends rather than him as her not loving him anymore. Misinterpretations happen, but acting like you're superior to people because you think they've misinterpreted something (even when you don't know that they did) is the wrong way to deal with that reality.

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Hatuey said:

Conservatives don't really understand the term 'generational effects'. They feel that if one guy can make it out of poverty, so can everyone else and the rest is moot. 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow and government imposed poverty done away with in 1964. Lolz.

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Here's what you don't understand: Sixty years ago, the Japanese were the most hated race in America, now they are the richest race in America. So much for your "generational effects."

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Verthaine said:

I seriously wonder if some people here realize that Jamie Foxx is not the the spokesmen for all black people in America.

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I wonder if you realize that Foxx's words aren't all that opinions are being based on. Look at the unbelievably stupid claims of racism and sexism for not wanting Rice nominated. Did you hear Whitlock calling the NRA the new KKK after the stupid murder and suicide committed by Belcher? It's a regular basis nowadays that you hear racism accusations screaming absurdity.

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Caine said:

Because their complaints are legitimate 95% of the time.

There is no evidence its just.... """""""" I JUST *KNOW* """"""

The problem is made worse by people claiming racism without nary a bit of evidence that racism exists.

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I'm not talking about people complaining about racism without evidence. My point was that complaints of racism are often brushed under the rug simply because society in general is too afraid to open the can of worms, even though that can of worms is rather large and hindering progress.

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DiavoTheMiavo said:

Yes . . . all blacks post 1964 were just hatched. They just showed up. The experiences of their Mom's, Dad's, Aunts, Uncles, Grandma and Grandpas have no effect on them. Oh, and racism is dead. I only imagine hearing the word "Nigger" almost daily from white people in my area that dislike the black folk who have moved in. You are right, no racism . . . it's all in their imagination (and mine).

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Im sorry...... You are supposed to expect me to agree that it is okay for a black guy born in 1987 to hear about his Dad's experience and act as if it happened to him and allow that to mold how he views the world around him?

You are supposed to make your own god damned experiences...........This is EXACTLY where the continued problem will lie, people teaching their kids to resent "the white man" for reasons that they shouldn't have, just because their worthless parents had it.

Ditto and the same for ignorant racist whites teaching their children to hate blacks for no goddamn reason.


EDIT: It is one thing to hear racist **** from ignorant racist people in the neighborhood and town......... Hearing racist **** doesn't hold someone back from achieving success outside of that small racist town. Or do you want to tell me all the colleges are racist too?

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samsmart said:

One of the complaints, as I stated before, from the black actors and actresses community is that they tend to be pigeonholed in certain types of roles.

And Melissa McCarthy, as a large white woman, will be likely to be similarly pigeonholed as well.

So I will believe that such things don't matter any more when Melissa McCarthy is able to play a variety of dramatic roles if she auditions for them and seems capable of fulfilling those roles.

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Most actors get pigeon-holed, at least for the bulk of their career if they have a long one. It is the nature of the beast.

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wolfie said:

Nice turnaround AS..if i make enough rope...will you allow me to hang myself??

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Here - let me craft a nice woven rope of J6/1-3/1 for you out of titanium.

It'll be an artistic flair.

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Caine said:

Because their complaints are legitimate 95% of the time.

There is no evidence its just.... """""""" I JUST *KNOW* """"""

The problem is made worse by people claiming racism without nary a bit of evidence that racism exists.

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4 studies found in 20 seconds. No evidence. Lolz.

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Cilogy said:

That's hilarious.

Just because there are prominent black people in these positions does not automatically erase racism.


I didn't know that Hollywood stars speak for entire peoples.

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No, it doesn't erase racism. That is what I am saying. That despite the fact that there is countless evidence of numerous blacks who have succeeded in the world to become the top intellectuals, financial, political and all other types... racism still exists. Even in the most liberal and equalitarian driven places in the world, racism surfaces. Because it is inherent in human nature. You can never get rid of it because it is an essential part of human nature.

And while I do agree that movie stars and other such people don't speak for entire populations, they do however represent a perception that is embraced by a lot of people. And that notion is that everywhere you go, there is racism. Everywhere. Even in the most equalitarianly ideological places with the most liberals and what naught. There is still racism and it makes life hard, every single day. This means that racism > ideology and that can usually happen when it is a natural drive. Which is quite impressive because honestly, humans, if they put their minds to it, and focus, can resist hunger of days on end and make hunger strikes, can ignore pain, cold and fatique to a large degree. But not racism. Racism is so deeply imbedded in human nature and in what it means to be human, that if ever divorce ourselves from it, we destroy our very humanity.

That is the only logical conclusion from all the avalanche of racism and such things that gets thrown around every single god damned time something happens to someone who is black.

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Caine said:

Im sorry...... You are supposed to expect me to agree that it is okay for a black guy born in 1987 to hear about his Dad's experience and act as if it happened to him and allow that to mold how he views the world around him?

You are supposed to make your own god damned experiences...........This is EXACTLY where the continued problem will lie, people teaching their kids to resent "the white man" for reasons that they shouldn't have, just because their worthless parents had it.

Ditto and the same for ignorant racist whites teaching their children to hate blacks for no goddamn reason.

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I honestly expect nothing from you. You have firmly established your opinion . . . it is now up to the reader to decide if it is of substance.

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Hatuey said:

Conservatives don't really understand the term 'generational effects'. They feel that if one guy can make it out of poverty, so can everyone else and the rest is moot. 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow and government imposed poverty done away with in 1964. Lolz.

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What's funny is that we are all STILL being affected by things like the Enlightenment, the Crusades, the creation of the Bible and so on - things that happened way before American slavery and Jim Crow. The idea that recent history is something to "get over" or that it isn't affecting people in real ways is beyond irrational. It's just willful ignorance, at the end of the day. Some people dismiss the stories that they don't want to hear.

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Cilogy said:

I'm not talking about people complaining about racism without evidence. My point was that complaints of racism are often brushed under the rug simply because society in general is too afraid to open the can of worms, even though that can of worms is rather large and hindering progress.

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Bull**** dude....

Complaints of racism are taken at face value without evidence.....

Jena 6...... The "Toilet paper in a bucket that looked like a noose in a broom closet at UNC"....... The Duke Lacrosse case........ George Zimmerman the evil racist black kid killer..........

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Ray410 said:

Here's what you don't understand: Sixty years ago, the Japanese were the most hated race in America, now they are the richest race in America. So much for your "generational effects."

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They were hated for what? 6 years? That's 1/5th of a generation. Call me back when they were enslaved for 200 years.

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Rainman05 said:

No, it doesn't erase racism. That is what I am saying. That despite the fact that there is countless evidence of numerous blacks who have succeeded in the world to become the top intellectuals, financial, political and all other types... racism still exists. Even in the most liberal and equalitarian driven places in the world, racism surfaces. Because it is inherent in human nature. You can never get rid of it because it is an essential part of human nature.

And while I do agree that movie stars and other such people don't speak for entire populations, they do however represent a perception that is embraced by a lot of people. And that notion is that everywhere you go, there is racism. Everywhere. Even in the most equalitarianly ideological places with the most liberals and what naught. There is still racism and it makes life hard, every single day. This means that racism > ideology and that can usually happen when it is a natural drive. Which is quite impressive because honestly, humans, if they put their minds to it, and focus, can resist hunger of days on end and make hunger strikes, can ignore pain, cold and fatique to a large degree. But not racism. Racism is so deeply imbedded in human nature and in what it means to be human, that if ever divorce ourselves from it, we destroy our very humanity.

That is the only logical conclusion from all the avalanche of racism and such things that gets thrown around every single god damned time something happens to someone who is black.

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Okay fine, so what is your point? That because racism is embedded in ourselves that we don't do something about it?

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Cilogy said:

I understand, you said it as if all black people do that, you should have worded it better.

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I wasn't the one who worded it.... because I didn't post the comment, just responded to your response.

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Caine said:

Bull**** dude....

Complaints of racism are taken at face value without evidence.....

Jena 6...... The "Toilet paper in a bucket that looked like a noose in a broom closet at UNC"....... The Duke Lacrosse case........ George Zimmerman the evil racist black kid killer..........

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Again, Whites have it so bad . . . besides . . . most of that news is so last week . . . get over it.