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SCOTUS: Scalia on the defensive over gay rights

Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
edify me as to your credentials as either an appellate attorney or a law professor to make such a pronouncement
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Read a little Erwin Chemerinsky. His criticisms of Scalia have basically left Scalia in the trash heap of constitutional scholarship.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
I didn't use the term awesome so stop lying. "layman student" LOL
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Saying in full what you mean to imply in part isn't 'lying'.
 
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Sooo, does this mean Scalia intends to vote against same sex marriage?
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
I didn't use the term awesome so stop lying. "layman student" LOL
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You clearly don't know a lot about constitutional scholarship. Scalia is a laughingstock of mainstream scholars. He's only a dear of the rightwing cranks.

Read: The Jurisprudence of Justice Scalia: A Critical Appraisal by Erwin Chemerinsky. He'll set you straight.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

head of joaquin said:
Read a little Erwin Chemerinsky. His criticisms of Scalia have basically left Scalia in the trash heap of constitutional scholarship.
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LOL-the anti gun lefty at Irvine? NOt exactly in the same league as Scalia-but a decent scholar though far far left
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

It's fascinating that a self-professed 'libertarian' rushes to the defense of Antonin "never met a mandatory sentence he didn't like" Scalia. It's almost like there's artifice going on here.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

head of joaquin said:
You clearly don't know a lot about constitutional scholarship. Scalia is a laughingstock of mainstream scholars. He's only a dear of the rightwing cranks.

Read: The Jurisprudence of Justice Scalia: A Critical Appraisal by Erwin Chemerinsky. He'll set you straight.
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More hysterical BS-what are you reading-the Soros Law school? BTW where did you get your law degree

the guy you cite is a major league gun hater who said that individual rights are subservient to "restricting violence" when it comes to guns. THe same argument could be used for court created rights liberals love such as Miranda and Gideon.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

Your Star said:
This asshole is a plague on the court, he should have never been appointed.



SCOTUS: Scalia on the defensive over gay rights - First Read
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This is an example where the comparison is so controversial that the primary point is over shadowed. He's trying to say the some moral values are legislated but he makes an extremely labored comparison between murder and homosexuality that just doesn't work.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

Einzige said:
It's fascinating that a self-professed 'libertarian' rushes to the defense of Antonin "never met a mandatory sentence he didn't like" Scalia. It's almost like there's artifice going on here.
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I never said I agreed with the man on every or most issues. Its fun watching people who have no clue about constitutional scholarship whining about a guy because they don't like his decisions on a few well publicized issues. I don't much like lots of Souter's decisions but he was a brilliant justice as well
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
he did not, stop having a fit over a false charge

and I would bet there is no one on this board with the intellectual gifts of Justice Scalia. Many legal scholars believe he is the most gifted justice to ever sit on the court. Only Roberts and Alito can match his academic record.
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Yeah, I confused him with Thomas, he's still a dumbass though.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

Moot said:
Sooo, does this mean Scalia intends to vote against same sex marriage?
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I think it depends on the argument. DOMA could be tossed on enumerated powers but same sex marriage in the states that allow them could be upheld under full-faith and credit. I don't think you are going to get a bright-line ruling that it is or is not universally applied just yet IMHO.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
More hysterical BS-what are you reading-the Soros Law school? BTW where did you get your law degree

the guy you cite is a major league gun hater who said that individual rights are subservient to "restricting violence" when it comes to guns. THe same argument could be used for court created rights liberals love such as Miranda and Gideon.
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You asked for scholarship showing Scalia was a boob. Now I bet you wish you didn't.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
I never said I agreed with the man on every or most issues. Its fun watching people who have no clue about constitutional scholarship whining about a guy because they don't like his decisions on a few well publicized issues. I don't much like lots of Souter's decisions but he was a brilliant justice as well
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I don't like Scalia because his rulings are ham-fisted and moralistic and utterly unimaginative.

I don't mind conservative justices. I adore Posner, as you well know. But Scalia is a boor.
 
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Your Star said:
Yeah, I confused him with Thomas, he's still a dumbass though.
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LOL-that's a moronic statement. I bet you think Obama is smarter than Scalia and anyone who supports lesbian marriage more intelligent as well
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
and Yet Scalia is a USSC justice and Chemerinsky didn't even make it to the 9th circuit

bummer
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BWHAHAHAHH!

That's your standard of scholarship.


BWHAHAHAHAHAH!

We have another crank rightwing theory!
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

Einzige said:
I don't like Scalia because his rulings are ham-fisted and moralistic and utterly unimaginative.

I don't mind conservative justices. I adore Posner, as you well know. But Scalia is a boor.
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Posner's sort of a cowboy
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
Posner's sort of a cowboy
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Posner ought to be on the Court and Scalia ought to be at the Golden Corral.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

head of joaquin said:
BWHAHAHAHH!

That's your standard of scholarship.


BWHAHAHAHAHAH!

We have another crank rightwing theory!
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why do you constantly spew idiot posts on every thread you are on. what law school do you hold a degree from?
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

Here's what a real constitutional scholar thinks of the thug, Scalia.

I am not a fan of Justice Antonin Scalia's work on the United States Supreme Court. When the Justice Scalia fan club is formed, I'm not joining. Since I'm liberal and he's conservative, this is hardly a surprise. But my dislike for Justice Scalia's jurisprudence is much greater than an ideological disagreement. To be blunt, there is a disingenuousness to Justice Scalia's decision-making and a meanness to his judicial rhetoric that I believe are undesirable and inappropriate.

In this paper, I want to make three points. First, Justice Scalia's approach to the Religion Clauses is unduly restrictive and would leave little constitutional protection for either free exercise or the Establishment Clause. Second, Justice Scalia's jurisprudence is founded on the premise that the Supreme Court should decide cases without Justices making value choices. 1 I believe that this is impossible and that Justice Scalia, and all the Justices, constantly and inevitably make value choices in deciding constitutional cases. What disturbs me about Justice Scalia's jurisprudence is that by denying that it is making value choices, it pretends that its decisions are a result of a neutral judicial methodology. As a result his value choices are not defended, but rather hidden behind a claim that the results have been discovered not chosen.
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https://litigation-essentials.lexis...cid=3B15&key=d16cdd8976b2acc0013d3783ae296532

In the meantime, turtle gets his constitutional theory from O'Reilly and Beck!
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

TurtleDude said:
why do you constantly spew idiot posts on every thread you are on. what law school do you hold a degree from?
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Deflection by personal insult. It's all you got.

Now WHAT does the foremost consitutional scholar in the US say about Scalia.

Oh yeah:

https://litigation-essentials.lexis...cid=3B15&key=d16cdd8976b2acc0013d3783ae296532

For those who want to see Scalia's crank theories totally debunked, google The Jurisprudence of Justice Scalia: A Critical Appraisal by Erwin Chemerinsky. It will come up as a PDF download.

After Chermerinsky wrote this, no serious scholar of the Constitution has ever taken Scalia seriously again.
 
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Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

head of joaquin said:
Deflection by personal insult. It's all you got.

Now WHAT does the foremost consitutional scholar in the US say about Scalia.

Oh yeah:

https://litigation-essentials.lexis...cid=3B15&key=d16cdd8976b2acc0013d3783ae296532
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foremost constitutional scholar in the USA

well there are many ahead of that guy you worship

Akhil Amar is tops-sterling professor at yale sort of trumps a guy like your buddy

Laurence Tribe is well ahead of him

So is Steven Calabresi


William Van Alystyne

among others.
 
Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

MaggieD said:
76-year-olds didn't push the gay agenda forward. Young blood did that. If we can't cut old men a break, we're no less bigots than they are.
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On another forum I go to, there's a derisive term for this sort of attitude: "Moderate Heroism". It's not considered a compliment.

There's nothing hypocritical about hating the hater, because hate itself, in the abstract, isn't the enemy.
 
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