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Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

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All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News


Most of that cost is what it would cost him to visit ANYWHERE else in the U.S. The restrictions, secret-service, etc. are all costs that happen no matter where the president is.

Don't like a president visiting his place of birth, don't vote for someone from Hawaii. Funny though, I can't seem to find any posts from you complaining about GOP president travels and costs, I wonder why that is?
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News

When you consider how much Secret Service and all that goes along with a President travelling anywhere for a length of time, 4 million doesn't sound like that much actually. Think of how much it costs any of us to fly to Hawaii. And I don't have an infrastructure going with me! I think when I went 5 years ago, it cost about $1600 round trip tickets (each) for my wife and myself. Figure a little inflation....$2000 per person in the Obama family, counting Michelle's mother that's $10,000 right there. Take 10 Secret Service agents, that's another $20,000 right there. That's to fly coach on Delta. The President doesn't fly coach on a regular airline for obvious reasons. Then the hotel rooms for 10 Secret Service guys for 2 weeks...in Honolulu....
 
Most of that cost is what it would cost him to visit ANYWHERE else in the U.S. The restrictions, secret-service, etc. are all costs that happen no matter where the president is.

Don't like a president visiting his place of birth, don't vote for someone from Hawaii. Funny though, I can't seem to find any posts from you complaining about GOP president travels and costs, I wonder why that is?

Why can he not do all this after 2016 and give the $4 million he saves to the poor?

What, living in the White House is too confining?

Awwww - poor baby.

Why doesn't he go to a shelter in D.C. and complain to the poor there that living in the W.H. is too confining for him?

Selfish jerk.
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"
.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News

He's burned out from all that campaigning. Based on his latest fiscal cliff proposal, he might as well leave now. Joe can take care of things when he's gone.
 
Why can he not do all this after 2016 and give the $4 million he saves to the poor?

What, living in the White House is too confining?

Awwww - poor baby.

Because much of that 4 million is cost that is ALREADY being paid for simply by him being president. Do you think they don't have secret service at the white house? Do you think they don't keep Airforce one on standby?

Seriously, it's hilarious watching many people think the president should just stay in the white house like that doesn't incur costs in itself.
 
He's burned out from all that campaigning. Based on his latest fiscal cliff proposal, he might as well leave now. Joe can take care of things when he's gone.

Did you say the same thing about Bush and his vacations?
 
Because much of that 4 million is cost that is ALREADY being paid for simply by him being president. Do you think they don't have secret service at the white house? Do you think they don't keep Airforce one on standby?

Seriously, it's hilarious watching many people think the president should just stay in the white house like that doesn't incur costs in itself.


If they allocate 'x' number of dollars for trips AND he only uses part of that money, then the remainder is unused.

Or do you think that flying Air Force One around (with all the support planes/vehicles that goes with it) is free?

'Air Force One airfare: $179,750 per hour'

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...e-one-air-fare-179750-per-hour/1#.ULjgvuQ0WSo

It's over 4800 miles from D.C. to Honolulu. AF1 cruises at 575 mph. That is 8+ hours each way minimum. 16 hours round trip minimum times $180,000/hour equals $2,880,000 just to get there and back.

And the surplus could then be given to charities.

You don't think that would be a nice thing for a President to do at Christmas?

Especially when the nation has been mired near/above 8% unemployment for almost his entire time as President?

Especially when food stamp usage has risen over 40% since he took over?
 
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Did you say the same thing about Bush and his vacations?

A breadth of fresh air and common sense.

Google is their friend - Bush and Clinton took much more vacation time than Obama.

Of course, the truth is completely ignored by these folks wrapped in their own hyperbole.
 
To be fair, Bush went to his own home in Texas. Some of the cost probably wasn't as much.

You don't think the remodeling of Bush's ranch to accomodate him wasn't that much? Puuuuhlease. This is a clear "because Obama is a Dem, let's criticize ANYTHING he does" move from the OP.

Presidents have and will go on vacation to their home states. Obama's happens to be Haawaii. Don't like it, don't vote for someone from Hawaii.
 
A breadth of fresh air and common sense.

Google is their friend - Bush and Clinton took much more vacation time than Obama.

Of course, the truth is completely ignored by these folks wrapped in their own hyperbole.

I think the same thing of those dickheads as well.

You are not POTUS for life. You won't croak if you cannot go where ever you wish for a few years.

And when Americans are suffering as much as they are - the LEAST a POTUS can do is to forgo lavish holidays as long as the nation is suffering.

That $4 million can help make a lot of children a LOT happier at Christmas - and just maybe save a few lives if some money is given to medical clinics.


Yeah, what a guy...he is doing EVERYTHING he can for America...except forgoing mega-expensive vacations while Americans suffer.

What a dick.
 
You don't think the remodeling of Bush's ranch to accomodate him wasn't that much? Puuuuhlease. This is a clear "because Obama is a Dem, let's criticize ANYTHING he does" move from the OP.

Presidents have and will go on vacation to their home states. Obama's happens to be Haawaii. Don't like it, don't vote for someone from Hawaii.

Well, I'm not joining in the criticism of Obama on this one. I'm just saying it might not have cost as much for Bush to go to a house he owned in Texas, just like it would probably cost less for Obama to head home to Chicago.

But realistically, $4 million doesn't sound like much for the POTUS to go anywhere. It probably cost $100,000 for Michelle to go to Target in Maryland.
 
I think the same thing of those dickheads as well.

You are not POTUS for life. You won't croak if you cannot go where ever you wish for a few years.

And when Americans are suffering as much as they are - the LEAST a POTUS can do is to forgo lavish holidays as long as the nation is suffering.

That $4 million can help make a lot of children a LOT happier at Christmas - and just maybe save a few lives if some money is given to medical clinics.


Yeah, what a guy...he is doing EVERYTHING he can for America...except forgoing mega-expensive vacations while Americans suffer.

What a dick.

Just try and take a minute to remember every time you were working and all of the stress that goes along with that. Then of course you have your family which raises your stress level. The car starts acting funny, one of your kid gets in a fight at school. Bill are due and your wife's company is downsizing and she might lose her job. Man, imagine the kind of stress that you would be dealing with.

Now imagine your job is to be the President of the United States of America. And it's not your car acting funny, say it's Congress. And it's not your kid that gets in a fight, but Israel. And the bills? Oh yea, that's for the entire ****ing U.S.

Moral of the story? Give the guy a ****ing break.
 
i thought this vacation nonsense was stupid when they threw it at Bush, and i maintain that it's still partisan nonsense.

number one, "vacation?" right. my guess is that a president's vacation day is probably still like a regular workday for the rest of us. i mean, just look at how they age in office. does that look like somebody that's jerking around and doing nothing?

secondly, every president does this. it's damned expensive for a president to go to the john, or even to mcdonalds.

so the vacation criticism translates to this : "i hate me some president (insert name here,) and i'd melt into a puddle of hyperpartisan fury even if his offense was putting the toilet paper roll on the wrong way."
 
I think the same thing of those dickheads as well.

You are not POTUS for life. You won't croak if you cannot go where ever you wish for a few years.

And when Americans are suffering as much as they are - the LEAST a POTUS can do is to forgo lavish holidays as long as the nation is suffering.

That $4 million can help make a lot of children a LOT happier at Christmas - and just maybe save a few lives if some money is given to medical clinics.


Yeah, what a guy...he is doing EVERYTHING he can for America...except forgoing mega-expensive vacations while Americans suffer.

What a dick.

There are ALWAYS people suffering in America, does that mean a president should NEVER go on vacation? Yet again, don't see you whining about previous presidents doing this while people are "suffering".
 
Just try and take a minute to remember every time you were working and all of the stress that goes along with that. Then of course you have your family which raises your stress level. The car starts acting funny, one of your kid gets in a fight at school. Bill are due and your wife's company is downsizing and she might lose her job. Man, imagine the kind of stress that you would be dealing with.

Now imagine your job is to be the President of the United States of America. And it's not your car acting funny, say it's Congress. And it's not your kid that gets in a fight, but Israel. And the bills? Oh yea, that's for the entire ****ing U.S.

Moral of the story? Give the guy a ****ing break.

Awwwwe...pooor baby.

As I posted above - it's about $3 million just to fly Air Force One (with equipment) to Hawaii and back. He could not find somewhere closer to Washington to relax? He is going to drop dead from exhaustion unless he spends $3M tax dollars and gets to Hawaii?

Give me a break.

No one forced him to take the job - he knew it would be stressful.

But if going to Hawaii is more important to him then helping the poor with $3 million dollars saved from flying there - fine...he will be judged accordingly. He is a selfish dickhead...on top of being a crummy President.

Hope and Change my ass.

More of the Same is more like it.
 
Awwwwe...pooor baby.

As I posted above - it's about $3 million just to fly Air Force One (with equipment) to Hawaii and back. He could not find somewhere closer to Washington to relax? He is going to drop dead from exhaustion unless he spends $3M tax dollars and gets to Hawaii?

Give me a break.

No one forced him to take the job - he knew it would be stressful.

But if going to Hawaii is more important to him then helping the poor with $3 million dollars saved from flying there - fine...he will be judged accordingly. He is a selfish dickhead...on top of being a crummy President.

Hope and Change my ass.

More of the Same is more like it.

There is plenty of room on Canada - feel free to move.

Maybe they have room for an such a high caliber expert on US Presidential behavior.
 
Well, I'm not joining in the criticism of Obama on this one. I'm just saying it might not have cost as much for Bush to go to a house he owned in Texas, just like it would probably cost less for Obama to head home to Chicago.

But realistically, $4 million doesn't sound like much for the POTUS to go anywhere. It probably cost $100,000 for Michelle to go to Target in Maryland.

It would probably cost more to go to Chicago because his house is in a suburban neighborhood and that would be a bigger pain to secure. It cost a $1M toll just to send an aircraft carrier one way through the Suez, so I don't complain about presidential travel costs because it is small potatoes in comparison to the money we throw around and history shows us what can happen when we skimp on security. It isn't like he and Michelle can road trip on their own or fly American out of Dulles with 4 tickets alone.
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News

Wish I could take vacations when I had work to do.
 
There are ALWAYS people suffering in America, does that mean a president should NEVER go on vacation? Yet again, don't see you whining about previous presidents doing this while people are "suffering".

He cannot vacation close to home?

He will drop dead if he does not charge taxpayers $3 million just to fly to Hawaii?

Give me a break.


I will ask you again, do you not think it would be a great gesture at Christmas for Obama to forgo this trip and spend that saved millions of dollars at local food banks/shelters/make a Wish foundations/ etc?

Yes or no, please?


And I complained plenty about other POTUS's that did the same thing.

When you become POTUS - your happiness takes second place to the nation's.

If that is too rough for you - don't apply for the job.
 
There is plenty of room on Canada - feel free to move.

Maybe they have room for an such a high caliber expert on US Presidential behavior.

In other words - you have no reasonable reply to my statements, so you will resort to childish banter.

Gotcha.


Have a nice day.
 
so the vacation criticism translates to this : "i hate me some president (insert name here,) and i'd melt into a puddle of hyperpartisan fury even if his offense was putting the toilet paper roll on the wrong way."


This. Bravo - and thank you.
 
He cannot vacation close to home?

He will drop dead if he does not charge taxpayers $3 million just to fly to Hawaii?

Give me a break.


I will ask you again, do you not think it would be a great gesture at Christmas for Obama to forgo this trip and spend that saved millions of dollars at local food banks/shelters/make a Wish foundations/ etc?

Yes or no, please?


And I complained plenty about other POTUS's that did the same thing.

When you become POTUS - your happiness takes second place to the nation's.

If that is too rough for you - don't apply for the job.


And I answered you already, much of that money is costs that are ALREADY incurred EVEN WITH the president at the White House.

It would be great if every rich person in the nation would give their excess money to homeless shelters, food for poor, etc. but that isn't going to happen. Do you blame the rich people for not providing all their excess money to charity?

So again, I will ask YOU, do you think a president should NEVER go on vacation?
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


.The Yeshiva World Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation « » Frum Jewish News

I get that all presidents do this, but I don't understand why they're allowed to without paying for it themselves. They make 300k a year, yet take vacations worth 13 times their yearly salary?
 
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