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Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

Cardinal Fang said:
Tweet! Reagan took eighteen (18) trips to Santa Barbara in the first three years he was in office, during which time we were indeed experiencing the worst economic decline since the Great Depression. Unemployment was above 10% for ten straight months, you know.

But you'll forgive Reagan. Just not Obama. Different standards apply.
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Once again you try to excuse obama by saying he is no worse than previous presidents, is that the best you can say about your hope and change savior?:lol:
 
sawyerloggingon said:
You are mixing Bush with Reagan in a haphazard manner that makes your post gibberish, you flunked English class huh. :lol:
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Yeah, you're right, that particular post of yours was a reply about Reagan, but this thread is over a month old and GWB and his ranch vactions were mentioned many times, by many people.

Oh wait...one of those many people, just happened to be none other than YOU, just a few short days ago.

sawyerlogginon said:
You libs are always saying "so what, Reagan-Bush did it too". As soon as you do that you admit obama- Clinton or whoever you are defending is just the same as the people you despise.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...day-4-million-vacation-44.html#post1061304830
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By the way, when you're trying to snipe at someone for what you call gibberish, it might help if you don't post garbage like this.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...day-4-million-vacation-45.html#post1061308637
 
Cardinal Fang said:
Tweet! Reagan took eighteen (18) trips to Santa Barbara in the first three years he was in office, during which time we were indeed experiencing the worst economic decline since the Great Depression. Unemployment was above 10% for ten straight months, you know.

But you'll forgive Reagan. Just not Obama. Different standards apply.
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Of course the difference was that Reagan was in the process turning the economy around. Barrack Obama has had four years and it has only gotten worse.
 
Grant said:
Of course the difference was that Reagan was in the process turning the economy around. Barrack Obama has had four years and it has only gotten worse.
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Ah not only a bush apologist but a Reagan one as well. Your partisan hackers knows no bounds. Quite pathetic actually.
 
TheNextEra said:
Ah not only a bush apologist but a Reagan one as well. Your partisan hackers knows no bounds. Quite pathetic actually.
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Reagan won 49 out of 50 states in his second term election. How does that compare with the incompetent in there now?
 
Grant said:
Reagan won 49 out of 50 states in his second term election. How does that compare with the incompetent in there now?
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Your comment doesn't prove you any less of a bush or Reagan apologist or partisan hack.
 
TheNextEra said:
Your comment doesn't prove you any less of a bush or Reagan apologist or partisan hack.
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Facts are difficult for poor befuddled leftists to accept, but at least you have your ideology and beliefs to cling to.
 
Grant said:
Facts are difficult for poor befuddled leftists to accept, but at least you have your ideology and beliefs to cling to.
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I have no ideology I'm clinging to however you do. You excuse Reagan's and bush.s extensive travel but complain about Obama. I'm not complaining about any presidents travel. Your partisan hackery gets displayed more and more with your posts.
 
TheNextEra said:
I have no ideology I'm clinging to however you do. You excuse Reagan's and bush.s extensive travel but complain about Obama. I'm not complaining about any presidents travel. Your partisan hackery gets displayed more and more with your posts.
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Perhaps you should ask the mods how the quote system works.
 
BWG said:
Yeah, you're right, that particular post of yours was a reply about Reagan, but this thread is over a month old and GWB and his ranch vactions were mentioned many times, by many people.

Oh wait...one of those many people, just happened to be none other than YOU, just a few short days ago.






By the way, when you're trying to snipe at someone for what you call gibberish, it might help if you don't post garbage like this.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...day-4-million-vacation-45.html#post1061308637
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This is what libs do when I paint them into a corner, try to talk about me instead of the subject. :)
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Once again you try to excuse obama by saying he is no worse than previous presidents, is that the best you can say about your hope and change savior?:lol:
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No, I am only pointing out the latest example of blatant and deliberate right-wing dishonesty. This was your post...

Neither Bush or Reagan took their vacations in "the worst economy since the great depression" as obama says we are in...

It is deliberately false on two counts. The first I have already noted -- the record shows that Reagan in fact vacationed at an average of rate of once every two months during what was the worst economy since the Great Depression. Second, we have been in recovery since June of 2009 and Obama has spoken in those terms since it was announced. He has not made such statements as you have attributed to him. To summarize, your post was just another load of baseless partisan crap.
 
Grant said:
Of course the difference was that Reagan was in the process turning the economy around. Barrack Obama has had four years and it has only gotten worse.
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LOL! Read some history. Reagan inherited the tail-end of an oil supply crisis and promptly turned it into the worst economic decline since the Great Depression, throwing millions out of work and destroying a good part of our northeast manufacturing base. The term "Rust Belt" did not enter the popular conversation until Reagan came along. Unemployment was 7.5% when he took office, and he had it over 9% within 14 months and over 10% six months after that where it remained for the next ten months. GDP growth was negative four times in six quarters over 1981-82, and you think Reagan was pulling off some miracle recovery. Try again.

As for things getting "worse" under Obama, here's what that looked like...

MONTHLY JOB LOSSES
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QUARTERLY CHANGE IN REAL GDP AT ANNUAL RATES
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Cardinal Fang said:
No, I am only pointing out the latest example of blatant and deliberate right-wing dishonesty. This was your post...

Neither Bush or Reagan took their vacations in "the worst economy since the great depression" as obama says we are in...

It is deliberately false on two counts. The first I have already noted -- the record shows that Reagan in fact vacationed at an average of rate of once every two months during what was the worst economy since the Great Depression. Second, we have been in recovery since June of 2009 and Obama has spoken in those terms since it was announced. He has not made such statements as you have attributed to him. To summarize, your post was just another load of baseless partisan crap.
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Face reality obama worshiper. he called this "the worst economy since the great depression" and then took off to Hawaii on the most luxurious expensive vacation tax payer money could buy.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Face reality obama worshiper. he called this "the worst economy since the great depression" and then took off to Hawaii on the most luxurious expensive vacation tax payer money could buy.
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LOL!!! How many years went by in between those events? And it's Obama who pays for the vacation, including regular commercial airfare. By law, the taxpayer picks up the rest of the tab for transportation and all of it for security and communications. You see, those things are associated with the OFFICE of President of the United States, thereby being the responsibility of taxpayers. Don't tell me that you would walk out on your Personal Responsibility® as a taxpayer!?!

PS. The Obamas skipped their usual summer vacation this year, thereby depriving right-wingers of another chance to whine like little children. Meanwhile, Reagan kept right on vacationing at an average of rate of once every two months during what was the worst economy since the Great Depression.
 
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sawyerloggingon said:
This is what libs do when I paint them into a corner, try to talk about me instead of the subject. :)
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LOL...you really are confused (even more so than the resident conservative apologists) if you think that you are interesting enough for someone to talk about. When in reality I was commenting on your statements tying Reagan and Bush together - with a hyphen no less - and later trying to separate them.



re: the bolded - I don't care who you are, that there is funny. You must be a legend in your own mind...LOL!!!
 
Cardinal Fang said:
MONTHLY JOB LOSSES
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By the way, as virtually all of the public and private sector analyses of ARRA concluded, there were more than three million jobs in the economy at the end of 2010 that would not have been there had it not been for the stimulus bill. At their peak, the 90,000 infrastructure projects alone were providing jobs and paychecks to more than 750,000 Americans.


Who do you think food stamp and COBRA benefits went to? Unemployment benefits are meanwhile set by the states. All Obama did was create and fund the federal tiers of emergency extended unemployment benefits.

Which standards for any federal disability program do you think were changed? Are you sure that the jobs disabled people had been doing weren't preferentially among those eliminated?

And of course 37% of ARRA -- more than $290 billion -- went to tax cuts, including about $240 billion that went directly to individuals.


Yes, there is an explanation needed since some $26 billion went into science and health over two years. Maybe track down a few of those projects and report back on how they are doing.


More than 90,000 infratsructure projects were completed providing more than 750,000 jobs at the peak. There were projects near you no matter where you live. Well, maybe not on the moon.


States received $140 billion in budget support. This was fast-acting pain relief and preserved the jobs of thousands while allowing key state services to continue. Had Republicans been a smarter bunch, they would have renewed a good part of this aid in 2011. Instead, their takeover of the House turned into its own little mini-recession.
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I wish I could like posts more than once. :lamo
 
Does anybody else wish that politicians would spend more time vacationing and less time mucking up society?
 
phattonez said:
Does anybody else wish that politicians would spend more time vacationing and less time mucking up society?
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Personally, I'm more concerned with how the minds of so many who post have have gotten so mucked up. Why would anyone simply settle for being a trained seal for the right-wing disinformation media? That's not helpful.
 
BWG said:
LOL...you really are confused (even more so than the resident conservative apologists) if you think that you are interesting enough for someone to talk about. When in reality I was commenting on your statements tying Reagan and Bush together - with a hyphen no less - and later trying to separate them.



re: the bolded - I don't care who you are, that there is funny. You must be a legend in your own mind...LOL!!!
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Yet another post all about ME instead of the subject, I rest my case.:lol:
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Face reality obama worshiper. he called this "the worst economy since the great depression" and then took off to Hawaii on the most luxurious expensive vacation tax payer money could buy.
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If you truly want to face reality, you will admit that Obama was talking about the economy 3-4 years ago when he said it was the worst economy since the Great Depression. So no, he did not take off for a Hawaiian vacation amid the "worst economy since the Great Depression."
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Once again you try to excuse obama by saying he is no worse than previous presidents, is that the best you can say about your hope and change savior?:lol:
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Huh?? You're saying it's ok to hold Obama to a different standard than other presidents???
 
Grant said:
Of course the difference was that Reagan was in the process turning the economy around. Barrack Obama has had four years and it has only gotten worse.
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What did Reagan do to turn the economy around?
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Neither Bush nor Reagan claimed to be ranchers, they did however live on what were ranches. Reagan rode horses, Bush road mt bikes but the point is they went to their wide open spaces to recharge their batteries and get out of the beltway mentality. Bully for them.
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Who knows why [partisan?] you criticize Obama for taking to the "wide open space" of a golf course to "recharge his batteries" when you commend other [Republican] presidents for doing the same?

:shrug:
 
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