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Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

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Grant said:
It's amazing that those same people who approve of a $4 million dollar vacation for Obama claimed that Mitt Romney, because of his wealth, could not possibly be a man of the people.
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Gee, most of the cost is for transporation and security that are provided to any President by law. The parts of the trip that represent personal expenses are being personally paid for by the Obamas. And meanwhile, it was freaking Romney who said he was not a man of the people. He didnt care about them. They would never vote for him anyway. He was right about that much at least.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Yes, really...

Jan-2009: 22,576,000
Nov-2012: 21,962,000

BLS: Government
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Clever but Obama does not hire/fire or otherwise control non-federal gov't employees. State, county and city gov'ts cannot print or borrow money like the federal gov't can, they must actually tax their citizens to fund their gov't employees.
 
head of joaquin said:
Maybe conservative agitprop trying to pretend Bush's inept economic policies of tax cuts for the rich and deregulation didn't fool them this time.
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Is there any issue on these boards that can be discussed without the pathetic leftists always referring back to George Bush? Maybe it's time to tune into the program now playing.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
Gee, most of the cost is for transporation and security that are provided to any President by law. The parts of the trip that represent personal expenses are being personally paid for by the Obamas. And meanwhile, it was freaking Romney who said he was not a man of the people. He didnt care about them. They would never vote for him anyway. He was right about that much at least.
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It is still a $4 million vacation and the taxpayers are stuck with the bill. Are you saying the idea wasn't Obama's?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Ponders the poster who said that the government is hiring, when in fact, it's smaller now than it was 4 years ago; and intimated the private sector is not growing, when in fact, the private sector has now enjoyed 33 months of consecutive growth as it's added over 5 million jobs during that period.

You sure did get that one ass backwards, huh? :shrug:
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So the middle class is growing as a result of those 5 million jobs Obama created, not shrinking, and there is then no need for tax cuts.

Full steam ahead as, once again, Barrack H. Obama has solved the problem.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Really?
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Yes, really. Employment by sector (thousands)...

.......................Jan 2009.......Now
Private sector.....110,985.....111,890
Public sector........22,576.......21,962

And so your first cite ends at 2010 and is therefore a joke, while your second one says that Obama was indeed correct, but that if you twisted the numbers a different way, you would get different answers. No kidding.
 
Grant said:
It is still a $4 million vacation and the taxpayers are stuck with the bill. Are you saying the idea wasn't Obama's?
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Sounds like a bargain. According to Glenn Beck, having a president costs $1.4 billion per year. That's close to $4 million per day. If it's only costing $4 million for 20 days for him to go on vacation, he should vacation more.

How much do the Obama
 
Grant said:
So the middle class is growing as a result of those 5 million jobs Obama created, not shrinking, and there is then no need for tax cuts.
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And thanks to Republicans, it's looking like the middle class won't get to keep the Bush tax cuts. It will be interesting to see how that affects them in the 2014 election.
 
Grant said:
Is there any issue on these boards that can be discussed without the pathetic leftists always referring back to George Bush? Maybe it's time to tune into the program now playing.
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I used to wonder the same thing about righties talking about Clinton throughout Bush's presidency.

It's funny how that works, eh?

:coffeepap
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Clever but Obama does not hire/fire or otherwise control non-federal gov't employees. State, county and city gov'ts cannot print or borrow money like the federal gov't can, they must actually tax their citizens to fund their gov't employees.
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The comment I was responding to was how "the only one hiring is the government."

The "government" is not limited to the federal government.

I'm sure you think you're making a point by using 2 year old data and by changing the parameters of the argument -- but you're not.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Clever but Obama does not hire/fire or otherwise control non-federal gov't employees. State, county and city gov'ts cannot print or borrow money like the federal gov't can, they must actually tax their citizens to fund their gov't employees.
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Doesn't matter when the claim was that "the government" is hiring. Foot was put in mouth. It isn't coming back out.
 
Grant said:
Is there any issue on these boards that can be discussed without the pathetic leftists always referring back to George Bush? Maybe it's time to tune into the program now playing.
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The program now playing is the long slow, and painful process of recovering from the total collapse of everything orchestrated by George W Bush and his merry bands of PNAC triumphalists and laissez-faire free-marketeers. We've more or less managed to get ourselves extricated from the never justified chaos and disater of Iraq, somebody has finally paid back bin Laden, al Qaeda as an entity has been shattered, and we are on the way out of Afghanistan after having to go back there because Bush decided to run away. But the economic mess is another matter. The entire globe continues to wrestle with the damage that Bush's idiotic policies brought about. So that's the synopsis up until now. Stay tuned for more work rebuilding more stuff that Bush knocked down.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Clever but Obama does not hire/fire or otherwise control non-federal gov't employees. State, county and city gov'ts cannot print or borrow money like the federal gov't can, they must actually tax their citizens to fund their gov't employees.
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The post said government jobs, not federal government jobs. Government employment has declined. Just admit it.

As to Obama's sleight of hand, hearing that from a conservative, when Bush kept talking about "average tax cuts' of his Paris Hilton welfare program, is rather bracing. But in any case,


CHART: Bush Vs. Obama On Private And Public Sector Job Creation | ThinkProgress

Even with today’s disappointing and troubling jobs report, private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush. 40 months into his presidential term, there are currently more private sector jobs in the economy than when Obama came into office. At the same point in President Bush’s term, the total number of private sector jobs was still down 1.7 percent from where it began.

The numbers are even starker when measuring each president’s record from the moment job creation returned. Private sector job creation returned in February of 2010, the 13th month of President Obama’s term. Since then, the economy has added 4.3 million private sector jobs, a 4 percent increase.

Under President Bush, the economy stopped shedding private sector jobs in July of 2003, fully 30 months into his administration. From that point until May of 2004, the economy added just 1.5 million private sector jobs, an increase of only 1.4 percent.

But there is one area of job creation where President Bush clearly outshines President Obama: the public sector. Public sector employment is now down 608,000 workers since January 2009, a 2.7 percent decline. At the same point in President Bush’s term, public sector employment was up 3.7 percent. If, over the past 40 months, public sector employment had grown at the same pace as it did in President Bush’s first term, there would be 1.4 million additional people at work right now. That’d be enough to bring the unemployment rate down by nearly a full percentage point.
 
Grant said:
It is still a $4 million vacation and the taxpayers are stuck with the bill. Are you saying the idea wasn't Obama's?
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Dude, all Presidents go on vacation. Obama does, and Hillary will too, once we elect her instead of the next bit of total deadwood that the Republicans trot out. Are you meanwhile blaming Obama for a lack of foresight in having been born in Hawaii? Does he have less of a right to vacation in Hawaii than Nixon or Reagan did in California? The costs of having any President include travel and security among lots of other things. Obama happens to be way down the list when it comes to vacation time in office. He's not somehow living high on the hog at taxpayer expense. Partisans are merely acting like jerks over what's entirely typical and ordinary.
 
Grant said:
So the middle class is growing as a result of those 5 million jobs Obama created, not shrinking, and there is then no need for tax cuts.

Full steam ahead as, once again, Barrack H. Obama has solved the problem.
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Why do you want to punish success?
 
Grant said:
It is still a $4 million vacation and the taxpayers are stuck with the bill. Are you saying the idea wasn't Obama's?
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its amazing that people who constantly whine about the rich are so quick to worship their dem masters who became rich through government rather than creating anything of value
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Sounds like a bargain. According to Glenn Beck, having a president costs $1.4 billion per year. That's close to $4 million per day. If it's only costing $4 million for 20 days for him to go on vacation, he should vacation more.
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I think that's an excellent idea.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
Dude, all Presidents go on vacation. Obama does, and Hillary will too, once we elect her instead of the next bit of total deadwood that the Republicans trot out. Are you meanwhile blaming Obama for a lack of foresight in having been born in Hawaii? Does he have less of a right to vacation in Hawaii than Nixon or Reagan did in California? The costs of having any President include travel and security among lots of other things. Obama happens to be way down the list when it comes to vacation time in office. He's not somehow living high on the hog at taxpayer expense. Partisans are merely acting like jerks over what's entirely typical and ordinary.
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Yes, you're right. He's been working very hard and deserves a holiday. It must be difficult running solar power companies, automobile companies and the United States of America, all at the same time. I hope he doesn't stay away to long. The economy, and the country, needs him.

Michele too. People will probably a lot of gain weight while she's gone.
 
TurtleDude said:
its amazing that people who constantly whine about the rich are so quick to worship their dem masters who became rich through government rather than creating anything of value
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You seem to be overlooking Barrack Obama's record of ....hmmm.

Didn't he organize a community once?

Barrack Obama has proved the old saying that anyone can grow up to be president and taken it a step further to the point where no qualifications at all are really necessary. And anyone who shows interest in his qualifications, or his past, is shouted down and branded a racist.

Obama has lowered the bar so low that it hardly leaves a shadow. No person could limbo under the bar he set.
 
head of joaquin said:
Why do you want to punish success?
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Hey, I don't want to punish success. Success now appears to be in the eye of the beholder so if you believe Obama is doing a great job then why should I trouble you with any realities?
 
TurtleDude said:
its amazing that people who constantly whine about the rich are so quick to worship their dem masters who became rich through government rather than creating anything of value
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Then there are those of us who think "public servants" should be just that. But, then there are those of YOU, who think they should be able to profit off the public dime. Go figure huh?
 
TurtleDude said:
its amazing that people who constantly whine about the rich are so quick to worship their dem masters who became rich through government rather than creating anything of value
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As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill"[5]) after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network[6] submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).[7]
Indeed, Kleinrock would later credit both Gore and the Gore Bill as a critical moment in Internet history:
A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted legislation that resulted in President George H.W Bush signing the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the National Research and Education Network [13–14]. The NREN brought together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking.[8]
The bill was passed on Dec. 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII)[9] which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway". President George H. W. Bush predicted that the bill would help "unlock the secrets of DNA," open up foreign markets to free trade, and a promise of cooperation between government, academia, and industry.[10]
Prior to its passage, Gore discussed the basics of the bill in an article for the September 1991 issue of Scientific American entitled Scientific American presents the September 1991 Single Copy Issue: Communications, Computers, and Networks. His essay, "Infrastructure for the Global Village", commented on the lack of network access described above and argued: "Rather than holding back, the U.S. should lead by building the information infrastructure, essential if all Americans are to gain access to this transforming technology"[11] [...] "high speed networks must be built that tie together millions of computers, providing capabilities that we cannot even imagine."[12]
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Plaque commemorating the creation of the Mosaic web browser.
Perhaps one of the most important results of the Gore Bill was the development of Mosaic in 1993.[13][14] This World Wide Web browser is credited by most scholars as beginning the Internet boom of the 1990s:
Gore's legislation also helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser, the commercial Internet's technological springboard. 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened,' Andreessen says of Gore's bill, 'at least, not until years later.'[15]
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Al Gore and information technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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