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Obama Plans 20-day, $4 million Vacation

Most of that cost is what it would cost him to visit ANYWHERE else in the U.S. The restrictions, secret-service, etc. are all costs that happen no matter where the president is.

Don't like a president visiting his place of birth, don't vote for someone from Hawaii. Funny though, I can't seem to find any posts from you complaining about GOP president travels and costs, I wonder why that is?

I don't like the fact Obama is taking a 21 day vacation on the taxpayers dime.

I could understand a week, maybe 10 days but 3-weeks?

That is only 80 jobs that could be saved at 50k a year per job.

Of course in another thread progressives are attempting to label republicans "hypocrites" because they authorized (not spent) 500k over a DOMA program, meanwhile the president goes on vacation that the cost of 8x the cost.

That moron Obama shouldn't be going on a 21 day vacation with the economy in the tank - that is about as bad as taking private jets to Washington DC to ask for a bailout!

Obama should behave more modestly, instead of living lavishly.

Michelle and Barry are starting to remind me of Marie "let them eat cake" Antoinette and King Louis XVI...
 
I don't like the fact Obama is taking a 21 day vacation on the taxpayers dime.

I could understand a week, maybe 10 days but 3-weeks?

That is only 80 jobs that could be saved at 50k a year per job.

Of course in another thread progressives are attempting to label republicans "hypocrites" because they authorized (not spent) 500k over a DOMA program, meanwhile the president goes on vacation that the cost of 8x the cost.

That moron Obama shouldn't be going on a 21 day vacation with the economy in the tank - that is about as bad as taking private jets to Washington DC to ask for a bailout!

Obama should behave more modestly, instead of living lavishly.

Michelle and Barry are starting to remind me of Marie "let them eat cake" Antoinette and King Louis XVI...

You know what, I'll make this nice and easy cause frankly it's bordering the sign of crazy from the right on this.

If you believe Obama shouldn't do what EVERY president in the last 40 years has done, make a ****ing amendment that states they can't. Otherise, please stop the whining. While you're at it, why don't you make an amendment that states that Congress can't vote themselves pay raises nor enjoy the perks they have been allowed to get away with.

I love it when one side makes excuses for a president taking vacation while THEIR guy is in power and then whines about a president taking vacation when it isn't their guy in power.

Don't like it......change it or deal with it. The only people at fault for this are the voters that keep voting in people that do this **** and vote the people that DO have the power over the pursestrings to stop it but don't.

Nuff said, have fun with the faux outrage.
 
I don't like the fact Obama is taking a 21 day vacation on the taxpayers dime.

I could understand a week, maybe 10 days but 3-weeks?

That is only 80 jobs that could be saved at 50k a year per job.

Of course in another thread progressives are attempting to label republicans "hypocrites" because they authorized (not spent) 500k over a DOMA program, meanwhile the president goes on vacation that the cost of 8x the cost.

That moron Obama shouldn't be going on a 21 day vacation with the economy in the tank - that is about as bad as taking private jets to Washington DC to ask for a bailout!

Obama should behave more modestly, instead of living lavishly.

Michelle and Barry are starting to remind me of Marie "let them eat cake" Antoinette and King Louis XVI...

Let's hope that during his vacation he doesn't sail over any fiscal cliff. The United States desperately needs him to run the country, manage the economy, and protect all Americans from outside dangers. Who but Barrack the Magnificent can get the job done?
 
Let's hope that during his vacation he doesn't sail over any fiscal cliff. The United States desperately needs him to run the country, manage the economy, and protect all Americans from outside dangers. Who but Barrack the Magnificent can get the job done?

So you believe the president SHOULD and DOEs control the economy?
 
All I can say is, unbelievable! This man is spending 4 million TAXPAYER dollars on a luxury vacation is the US economy teeters on the verge of a double dip recession and he himself is calling for higher taxes instead of reduced spending. You guys still proud you voted for this idiot?

"President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.”According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu where Obama and his family vacation have been told that the usual restrictions on their movements during an Obama stay will be in place for 21 days, from December 17 through January 6"


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So we ALL know this is bull crap now, yes? :roll:
 
It seems clear enough that this President has seriously damaged the American economy. Can we seriously consider otherwise?

Getting out of the Great Recession is damage?
 
It seems clear enough that this President has seriously damaged the American economy. Can we seriously consider otherwise?

That depends. Do you blame the president for signing the bills or the house and senate for creating them?
 
That depends. Do you blame the president for signing the bills or the house and senate for creating them?

Who created Obamacare? Whose decision was it to but or support various private companies? To pass a $800 billion stimulus?

Has the Left finally stopped blaming George Bush and is now attaching blame to the Senate and House instead? Meanwhile the mouse that roared remains perfect.
 
I didn't realize Obama was doing such a great job. $1,000,000,000,000 plus in annual debt is no big deal then. it's normal. So is the interest on that debt normal.
No, the interest is actually much lower than normal, thanks again to the Great Bush Recession. And seemingly high deficits are in fact the norm in times of national crisis. The only reason that we have them is the utter economic incompetence of George W Bush. As the saying goes, Bush ran large budget deficits when he had no reason. Obama ran large budget deficits when he had no choice.

Borrowing money and printing money seems like a good way to continued growth and prosperity for everyone then. It's amazing that no one else has thought of this before..
Dude, debt and the money supply have been expanding since your great-granddaddy's day at the least. The moreso suring times of national crisis.
 
yes, Several years of Obama and its still the fault of George Bush. Rinse and repeat.
Magic Wand Theory has no place in the debate. When a cleanup in Aisle-5 is required, a new shopper does not become responsible for the mess every ten minutes. Whichever one dropped the mayonnaise jar to begin with is responsibe in perpetuity. So it is with the idiot Bush.
 
I don't like the fact Obama is taking a 21 day vacation on the taxpayers dime.
However long it ends up being, the Obamas will be paying for the vacation. The taxpayers will be paying to provide appropriate transportation, communications, and security as they are required to do by law.

I could understand a week, maybe 10 days but 3-weeks?
Did the family take its usual summer vacation this year? Have you ever saved up vacation days? And how long is the scheduled Christmas Recess in Congress anyway?

That is only 80 jobs that could be saved at 50k a year per job.
There are costs involved in running a country. And of course these costs go directly to support the jobs of all the people up and down the chains of supply for everything that gets consumed. The economy of Martha's Vineyard took a heavy hit when the Obamas didn't show up as usual last August.

Of course in another thread progressives are attempting to label republicans "hypocrites"...
You make it sound like there's just one. You all make your beds, then you don't want to lie in them.
 
Who created Obamacare?
A broad array of stakeholders did. Including a lot of Republicans. As you'll recall, after the idiot recession and wars that Clown Boy started, the looming health care crisis was the #1 problem on the national agenda in 2008. Now, that's been addressed. Energy and immigration yet to go.

Whose decision was it to buy or support various private companies? To pass a $800 billion stimulus?
Pretty much bipartisan there. TARP was Paulson's idea and the major Wall Street-related moves were all taken long before Obama was sworn in. Various of the Fed/Treasury facilities and the coordinated international response toward recovery were Obama's doing though.

As for a stimulus bill, it was so obvious that one was needed that Republicans were pushing hard for one of their own. Nearly $500 billion worth of guess what...tax cuts for the rich and mega-corporations. You know, that seems to be their answer to everything. Amazing how that works out, isn't it? Bunch of useless one-trick ponies.

Has the Left finally stopped blaming George Bush...
That will happen at the same time that people stop blaming John Wilkes Booth for the assassination of Lincoln. Should I be wondering now if you have a "Booth Was Framed!!!" bumper-sticker?
 
However long it ends up being, the Obamas will be paying for the vacation. The taxpayers will be paying to provide appropriate transportation, communications, and security as they are required to do by law.


Did the family take its usual summer vacation this year? Have you ever saved up vacation days? And how long is the scheduled Christmas Recess in Congress anyway?


There are costs involved in running a country. And of course these costs go directly to support the jobs of all the people up and down the chains of supply for everything that gets consumed. The economy of Martha's Vineyard took a heavy hit when the Obamas didn't show up as usual last August.


You make it sound like there's just one. You all make your beds, then you don't want to lie in them.

The Obama's aren't paying for any of this "out of pocket."
 
Magic Wand Theory has no place in the debate. When a cleanup in Aisle-5 is required, a new shopper does not become responsible for the mess every ten minutes. Whichever one dropped the mayonnaise jar to begin with is responsibe in perpetuity. So it is with the idiot Bush.

And your headstone will read. "This is the fault of George Bush"
 
The Obama's aren't paying for any of this "out of pocket."
Sheesh! There are laws and policies that cover this. For ALL Presidents. The Obama's will reimburse the government for the commercial cost (i.e., what you or I would pay) of a round trip flight from Washington to Honolulu for each of the people who make the trip with the President/ They will also pay all of the costs for their lodging, food, shopping, entertainment, and other incidentals.
 
And your headstone will read. "This is the fault of George Bush"
I doubt that, but Bush's might read, "God, a lot of stuff was my fault!" Why don't you just decide to own the fact of your mistake in having supported this colossal blunderer? THe history isn't going to change. He will forever and always be to blame for all of the things he actually did and didn't do that were terrible mistakes. And there is a long and expensive list of those. Frozen into the record of time for all eternity. None of it is ever going to go away.
 
No, the interest is actually much lower than normal, thanks again to the Great Bush Recession. And seemingly high deficits are in fact the norm in times of national crisis. The only reason that we have them is the utter economic incompetence of George W Bush. As the saying goes, Bush ran large budget deficits when he had no reason. Obama ran large budget deficits when he had no choice.

He had plenty of choices, he chose to create a larger dependent base thus increasing the democratic base.
 
He had plenty of choices, he chose to create a larger dependent base thus increasing the democratic base.
Yeah, keep playing that idiot tune. What a lot of good it did Romney. When people lose their jobs and incomes (think Great Bush Recession), more and more of them quailify for things like food stamps and UI benefits automatically. That's why such programs are called "automatic stabilizers". Bush had already done all the heavy lifting on economy-wrecking, turning over to Obama what had essentially become a basket-case of an economy. No consmer demand, no business demand, no foreign demand. Do you know what that leaves to carry the day? Thank goodness Obama did.

Meanwhile, from the stimulus bill...

The purposes of this Act include the following:

(1) To preserve and create jobs and promote economic recovery.
(2) To assist those most impacted by the recession.
(3) To provide investments needed to increase economic efficiency by spurring technological advances in science and health.
(4) To invest in transportation, environmental protection, and other infrastructure that will provide long-term economic benefits.
(5) To stabilize State and local government budgets, in order to minimize and avoid reductions in essential services and counterproductive state and local tax increases.
 
Yeah, keep playing that idiot tune. What a lot of good it did Romney. When people lose their jobs and incomes (think Great Bush Recession), more and more of them quailify for things like food stamps and UI benefits automatically. That's why such programs are called "automatic stabilizers". Bush had already done all the heavy lifting on economy-wrecking, turning over to Obama what had essentially become a basket-case of an economy. No consmer demand, no business demand, no foreign demand. Do you know what that leaves to carry the day? Thank goodness Obama did.

Meanwhile, from the stimulus bill...

The purposes of this Act include the following:

(1) To preserve and create jobs and promote economic recovery.
(2) To assist those most impacted by the recession.
(3) To provide investments needed to increase economic efficiency by spurring technological advances in science and health.
(4) To invest in transportation, environmental protection, and other infrastructure that will provide long-term economic benefits.
(5) To stabilize State and local government budgets, in order to minimize and avoid reductions in essential services and counterproductive state and local tax increases.

And it failed at all five.
 
And it failed at all five.

He not only failed (if he was genuinely trying to right the situation) he made it much worse.

He has put the country in a tailsping from which it might never recover.
 
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