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Obama to GOP: I’m done negotiating with myself

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Kinda looks like BO's learned from past mistakes.About time.:thumbs:


Posted by Ezra Klein on November 29, 2012 at 6:31 pm


<Republican aides are circulating their summary of the White House’s opening bid on the fiscal cliff. They’re circulating it because they believe it fleshes out Speaker John Boehner’scomplaint that “the White House has to get serious.” Above all, they’re circulating it because the president isn’t offering them anything in his opening bid.>


<We’re seeing two things here. One is that the negotiations aren’t going well. When one side begins leaking the other side’s proposals, that’s typically a bad sign. The other is that Republicans are frustrated at the new Obama they’re facing: The Obama who refuses to negotiate with himself.>


<If Republicans want to cut Medicare, let them propose the cuts. If they want to raise revenue through tax reform, let them identify the deductions. If they want deeper cuts in discretionary spending, let them settle on a number. And, above all, if they don’t like the White House’s preferred policies, let them propose their own.>

Obama to GOP: I’m done negotiating with myself
 
I'll believe it when I see it.

Obama loves to compromise at the expense of the American people.
 
Yep, Obama's "compromise" plan is 1.6 trillion in tax hikes over 10 years, complete elimination of the debt ceiling, with 0 spending cuts.

Amazing.
 
I especially like this part of the article linked in the OP:

The GOP is right: This isn’t a serious proposal.

Why would you neglect to include this in your OP assertion?...
 
Yep, Obama's "compromise" plan is 1.6 trillion in tax hikes over 10 years, complete elimination of the debt ceiling, with 0 spending cuts.

Amazing.

That number would have been about right if he woulda let the bush tax-cuts expire the last time.
 
I especially like this part of the article linked in the OP:



Why would you neglect to include this in your OP assertion?...


I had faith in your ability to snoop it out.At least in your ability to follow the link and read.:roll:
 
It's really time for the bull**** to end. Obama knows that we need to cut entitlement spending (among others) and the GOP knows that raising the tax rate for the wealthiest (by 3 %, OH MY) will bring in some much needed revenue. That happens and lookie here, both were right, and we can finally end this nonsense.
 
I had faith in your ability to snoop it out.At least in your ability to follow the link and read.:roll:

Ah, so you intentionally mislead the readers by selectively including portions of the link to support your assertion…how ‘Fox News-ish’…:lamo
 
Ah, so you intentionally mislead the readers by selectively including portions of the link to support your assertion…how ‘Fox News-ish’…:lamo

And what assertion do you think i am supporting sherlock?
 
That number would have been about right if he woulda let the bush tax-cuts expire the last time.

Oh, and I forgot, not only did it not guarantee any spending cuts, it also called for real increases in spending. You can't make this **** up.

White House Plan on Fiscal Crisis Draws G.O.P. Ire - NYTimes.com

Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner presented the House speaker, John A. Boehner, a detailed proposal on Thursday to avert the year-end fiscal crisis with $1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, $50 billion in immediate stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

The proposal, loaded with Democratic priorities and short on detailed spending cuts, met strong Republican resistance. In exchange for locking in the $1.6 trillion in added revenues, President Obama embraced the goal of finding $400 billion in savings from Medicare and other social programs to be worked out next year, with no guarantees.

Wow.
 
It's really time for the bull**** to end. Obama knows that we need to cut entitlement spending (among others) and the GOP knows that raising the tax rate for the wealthiest (by 3 %, OH MY) will bring in some much needed revenue. That happens and lookie here, both were right, and we can finally end this nonsense.

Yeah and both sides will throw their shoulders out patting themselves on the back and acting like they saved the planet but realistically they found $25 to pay for a $130 tab...
 
Somebody had better standby with the paddles when grover sees this part of the times article....<$1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, > :lamo

Why? Did President Obama sign the pledge? I mean it was HIS offer not one from the GOP...:lamo
 
I'll believe it when I see it.

Obama loves to compromise at the expense of the American people.

Oh, do you mean tax now/cut later, which I suspect is as big a lie as "The check's in the mail," "I'll respect you in the morning," and the third big lie?
 
Oh, do you mean tax now/cut later, which I suspect is as big a lie as "The check's in the mail," "I'll respect you in the morning," and the third big lie?
What?
 
Why? Did President Obama sign the pledge? I mean it was HIS offer not one from the GOP...:lamo


Go ask Dr.watson to figure this one out for you sherlock.you must dippen into the dope kinda heavy tonight eh?
 
Go ask Dr.watson to figure this one out for you sherlock.you must dippen into the dope kinda heavy tonight eh?

1. Who is 'Dr. Watson' (assuming you are not refering to a fictional Doyle character)? If so, how would one ask a fictional character from a novel series close to 100 years old?...kinda wondering who is the one on dope...:roll:

2. I quit the 'dope' 27 years ago...are you even that old?

3. The ad hominem is not a very effective debate tactic...but please...if that's all you have carry on...:lamo
 
Republicans want Obama to propose both the tax increase and the entitlement cuts. That doesn't make sense. Republicans should come to the table with the entitlement and other spending cuts they want, and Obama should propose the tax increases he wants. It's not the responsibility of a President of either Party to shoulder the proposals of both his Party and the defeated opposition.
 
I especially like this part of the article linked in the OP:



Why would you neglect to include this in your OP assertion?...

Also from the article...

" If Republicans want to cut Medicare, let them propose the cuts. If they want to raise revenue through tax reform, let them identify the deductions. If they want deeper cuts in discretionary spending, let them settle on a number. And, above all, if they don’t like the White House’s preferred policies, let them propose their own. "

Where is the GOP proposal?
 
Also from the article...

" If Republicans want to cut Medicare, let them propose the cuts. If they want to raise revenue through tax reform, let them identify the deductions. If they want deeper cuts in discretionary spending, let them settle on a number. And, above all, if they don’t like the White House’s preferred policies, let them propose their own. "

Where is the GOP proposal?

Again, the Republicans haven't proposed anything. They've been trying to force the White House into the position of making the initial proposal for both a tax increase and spending cuts, because the combination is politically toxic. Bohener is a scumbag who's been playing politics with this thing since the election.
 
That must be an exhaustive process.

"Let me be clear, Barry..."

"Now, listen here Barack..."
 
Where is the GOP proposal?

Well, there was a Romney-Ryan budget proposal which was more than we have had from Obama in 4 years.
 
I'll believe it when I see it.

Obama loves to compromise at the expense of the American people.

You stole what I was going to say word for word. :)
 
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