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Senators Make Bid To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA

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A bipartisan group of senators made a bid Wednesday to end the indefinite military detention of Americans in the United States.
Declaring that a provision of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 put the country on a path to repeat the shame of World War II's internment camps, they argued the offending language should be stricken in this year's defense bill.
The authority to detain anyone on suspicions that they backed Al Qaeda was codified in law for the first time in the NDAA last winter, although the two most recent White House administrations have asserted since 2001 that the military has always had that authority, stemming from Congress' Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF) passed after the 9/11 attacks.
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Another anti civil liberties action that needs to be taken to an end.
 
"If we give up our rights, have not the terrorists won?" Paul said. "If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly that we are fighting for?"
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Kind of hits the nail on the head, doesn't it?
 
Yeah, a trial by jury is a right everyone has. When we start just deciding that sometimes people don't get a trial because we say so, it's a scary world indeed.
 
The Patriot Acts and the NDAA have suspended most of the rights US citizens normally were afforded.

The US constitution and Bill of Rights are effectively dead.

And we all know that it has nothing to do with fighting terrorism.

Reducing indefinite detention to say a number of years is still a violation of basic human rights. In any case, the fact that the US state can unleash the military forces upon US citizens, remove their citizenship and deport them is the reason the NDAA was rammed through COngress and not vetoed by Obama.

The fascist US Corpocracy is complete!

Remember ladies and gentlemen, the official terrorist list in the USA has several thousand individuals and organisation on it. Only a few dozen are classified as Mulsim terrorist organisations and militant groups. The bulk of the entries on the terrorist list are unionists/unions, environmental activists/groups, independent journalists/media outlets, even religious and church groups are listed.

One begins to wonder what in the hell the war on terrorism is all about?
 
It's easier to take rights away than it is to give them back. Kind of like money. Everybody wants it nut nobody wants to make payments.

Bin Laden did a good job on us and our leaders have raced to take advantage. Expect more laws, not less.
 
George W. Bush said it best:

You're either with us or against us.
 
I think the fact that we still, to this day, constantly question whether the terrorists have won or not is rather comical. The NDAA exists as a sign that the terrorists have won in some way.

Maybe Obama can get it through his thick skull that this **** is bad for us.
 
i voted bush in 08 as being the lesser of 2 evils,but both then and now i opposed the patriot act,infact in my little cowboy town in cali many republicans overnight switched to libertarians after the patriot act was passed.the ndaa took the patriot act to much more illegal levels.

the government had the right to increase security,but not the right to take away others rights granted by the constitution to do it.prior to using unwarranted wiretaps,the govt used a massive computer network that didnt record conversations,but instead keyed in on certain words or phrases said.is enough combinations came through to be concern,the fbi would gain a warrantto wiretap and record conversations,now we simply bypass the warrant step.
 
beerftw said:
i voted bush in 08 as being the lesser of 2 evils,but both then and now i opposed the patriot act,infact in my little cowboy town in cali many republicans overnight switched to libertarians after the patriot act was passed.the ndaa took the patriot act to much more illegal levels.

the government had the right to increase security,but not the right to take away others rights granted by the constitution to do it.prior to using unwarranted wiretaps,the govt used a massive computer network that didnt record conversations,but instead keyed in on certain words or phrases said.is enough combinations came through to be concern,the fbi would gain a warrantto wiretap and record conversations,now we simply bypass the warrant step.
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Same thing happened in where I live. Libertarians were just ex-conservatives once the Patriot Act was passed. We need the government to trust us as long as we aren't doing anything wrong.
 
To put these sorts of events in perspective, you have to look way beyond your town or a particular moment in time.

If you no longer have a common culture, everyone is suspect. Bush was the most nauseating sort of liberal globalist, as were his father and grandfather, but the fact remains that Obama actually believes that he is more than just a useful idiot in the globalist movement and he therefore is not going to change anything Bush has done. Obama's job is to advance the destruction of the American culture.
 
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Cilogy said:
I think the fact that we still, to this day, constantly question whether the terrorists have won or not is rather comical. The NDAA exists as a sign that the terrorists have won in some way.

Maybe Obama can get it through his thick skull that this **** is bad for us.
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Good point. And it raises the question of just who the real terrorists are? Those domestic enemies of the Constitution who pass and enforce laws that contradict it, or goat herders in Pakistan or Yemen?
 
johnny_rebson said:
George W. Bush said it best:

You're either with us or against us.
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The problem with Bush was that he couldnt tell the difference between the Devil and little baby Jesus
 
Ray410 said:
To put these sorts of events in perspective, you have to look way beyond your town or a particular moment in time.

If you no longer have a common culture, everyone is suspect. Bush was the most nauseating sort of liberal globalist, as were his father and grandfather, but the fact remains that Obama actually believes that he is more than just a useful idiot in the globalist movement and he therefore is not going to change anything Bush has done. Obama's job is to advance the destruction of the American culture.
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It sure does appear that way, yessir. :roll:

In style of governance, Obama is like Bush on steroids. IMO he is more white than he is black because he ain't got no soul, as they used to say. He's shooting up innocents all over Asia and Africa, and does not have enough conscience to make himself stop, much less soul to make him stop. He's like a white boy that never served in the military, and thereby is a bit of a virgin, whether he knows that or not.

I voted for Gary Johnson.
 
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