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State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Do you wear panties ?? the form should remain HUSBAND AND WIFE...whats next they are going to write a law I have to call my wife my partner so as not to offend a handful of people that are differnt and overbearing suckers...lol...pfffffffffffffft

this doesnt even make any sense to the OP
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Know what this gay rights thing isnt about rights...they have all the rights as any other americans...this is about a handfull of whiney demanding different people that want to force what they want down everyone elses throat....not mine not while I can still breath...screw that...thats why I was against gay marriage all along...they want to change the whole concept of it..to fit THEM so they feel good...changing govt forms to word them for gays is BULL****..
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

What dodge? Is that just what you say when you're discredited?

Your own link identifies the author of this book as "faith-based."

This is when you stop debating the religious fundies.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Equal my ass...gays are the FEW that are different...if you want to get married decide whos going to play hubby and whos going to play wife and leave everything ALONE for the 94% who arent different

Why do you expect more of gays than you do of straight people?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

More heterosexual people have anal sex than LGBT people, what of them?
This is the second time someone has asked this, but the fundies refuse to answer. Perhaps they too engage in anal sex. :lol:
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Know what this gay rights thing isnt about rights...they have all the rights as any other americans...this is about a handfull of whiney demanding different people that want to force what they want down everyone elses throat....not mine not while I can still breath...screw that...thats why I was against gay marriage all along...they want to change the whole concept of it..to fit THEM so they feel good...changing govt forms to word them for gays is BULL****..

Your hatred for "different" people is disturbing.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Allowing them to get married is EQUAL rights not changing the definition or what marriage is called...two men want to get married let them pick which one is going to wear the panties and leave the rest of the people alone...the voters didnt vote to CHANGE what marriage is..they voted to allow gay marriage...lets keep in mind most states vote that down

I do not think you have any idea what you are talking about. This change on documents does not, in any way, shape or form change what marriage is, what roles people play in marriage, nor the definition of marriage. It simply removed terms that may no longer accurately represent the situation for people using the forms.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

This is the second time someone has asked this, but the fundies refuse to answer. Perhaps they too engage in anal sex. :lol:

it gets ignored A LOT because it always shows the broken "logic" of some positions (no pun intended :) )
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Why do you expect more of gays than you do of straight people?

Dont even try that...YOU ARE THE ONE that expects straights to change their entire way of life for a few...because THEY WANT IT...just when I start to soften up a little about gay marriage they pull jerkoff **** like this and turn full bore against it....not only do they want what they BELIEVE is equal rights they want it worded to accomodate them too...and "F" everyone else and they way theyve had it all their lives....they dont want equal rights they want to impose their will on me...and I personally dont get on my knees for anyone..straight or gay...
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Know what this gay rights thing isnt about rights...they have all the rights as any other americans...this is about a handfull of whiney demanding different people that want to force what they want down everyone elses throat....not mine not while I can still breath...screw that...thats why I was against gay marriage all along...they want to change the whole concept of it..to fit THEM so they feel good...changing govt forms to word them for gays is BULL****..

Again, how would my marriage "force" anything down your throat?
You don't know me, will probably never meet me, and will certainly never have me over for tea. So, how is my going to the city hall and filing a form doing anything to you?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Its not even my objection. I dont have a dog in the fight, but if you look at the thread (& even more at the wider world) other people do & it was avoidable in many cases.

Ive never seen the sense in rules, or laws, that piss people off when a better option could have been provided.

I dont understand why anyone would want to argue with that position.

The only people getting pissed off are ones looking for something to get pissed off about. The change itself is completely trivial.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Do you wear panties ?? the form should remain HUSBAND AND WIFE...whats next they are going to write a law I have to call my wife my partner so as not to offend a handful of people that are differnt and overbearing suckers...lol...pfffffffffffffft

So a woman who goes commando can't be a wife? What about a woman who likes to wear boxers?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

yes i did laugh at you because you called it an option and said its gone

& I asked you to show me it on the form & you couldnt, because its gone, because you were wrong & now youre laughing like a fool again...

Until you can show me it on the form you are wrong & laughing when you are wrong makes you look.. well figure it ot for yourself...
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Dont even try that...YOU ARE THE ONE that expects straights to change their entire way of life for a few...because THEY WANT IT...just when I start to soften up a little about gay marriage they pull jerkoff **** like this and turn full bore against it....not only do they want what they BELIEVE is equal rights they want it worded to accomodate them too...and "F" everyone else and they way theyve had it all their lives....they dont want equal rights they want to impose their will on me...and I personally dont get on my knees for anyone..straight or gay...

Writing your name on a line that says applicant will change your entire way of life? Does a line on a government document tell you who you are?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Know what this gay rights thing isnt about rights...they have all the rights as any other americans...this is about a handfull of whiney demanding different people that want to force what they want down everyone elses throat....not mine not while I can still breath...screw that...thats why I was against gay marriage all along...they want to change the whole concept of it..to fit THEM so they feel good...changing govt forms to word them for gays is BULL****..

Gay people getting married has no effect on you unless you chose to be effected.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

I do not think you have any idea what you are talking about. This change on documents does not, in any way, shape or form change what marriage is, what roles people play in marriage, nor the definition of marriage. It simply removed terms that may no longer accurately represent the situation for people using the forms.

And I, one of the evil gays don't even like what they did. They should have made Bride 1, Groom 1, and Bride 2, Groom 2, and allow the people to circle the appropriate one. Simple as that.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Dont even try that...1.)YOU ARE THE ONE that expects straights to change their entire way of life for a few...because THEY WANT IT...2.)just when I start to soften up a little about gay marriage they pull jerkoff **** like this and turn full bore against it....not only do they want what they BELIEVE is equal rights they want it worded to accomodate them too...3.)and "F" everyone else and they way theyve had it all their lives....4.)they dont want equal rights they want to impose their will on me...5.)and I personally dont get on my knees for anyone..straight or gay...

1.) this is false
2.) "gays" didnt pull anything, this is false
3.) this is also false
4.) again also false, this may be true of some but thats true of ALL GROUPS of people
5.) good thing no one asked you too
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Your hatred for "different" people is disturbing.

Off topic, but...

Doesn't that quote scarily remind you of certain conservatives. They where after communists, then they went after socialists, and trade unions are in their sites right now bigtime...
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Dont even try that...YOU ARE THE ONE that expects straights to change their entire way of life for a few...because THEY WANT IT...just when I start to soften up a little about gay marriage they pull jerkoff **** like this and turn full bore against it....not only do they want what they BELIEVE is equal rights they want it worded to accomodate them too...and "F" everyone else and they way theyve had it all their lives....they dont want equal rights they want to impose their will on me...and I personally dont get on my knees for anyone..straight or gay...

No. Not even remotely close. I do not expect straight people to change their way of life. Nothing about SSM has any effect on how straight people live their life.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

The more I think about this, the more I am all for it. I suspect the form says "husband" and "wife" were used only without thought when the forms were first made. It never occurred to anyone that there might be a more narrow distinction someday. It just was. To the best of my knowledge, the government never did keep stats on how many were husbands and how many were wives, just how many people were married. To that end, I see no point in making the distinction.

Now, extend this to other forms. How many who favor marriage/gender neutrality in government forms also favor racial/ethnic neutrality in government forms? I do. I shouldn't even be asked what my race or ethnicity is. For the same reasons.

Something tells me, though, that some will try and rationalize a difference.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

& I asked you to show me it on the form & you couldnt, because its gone, because you were wrong & now youre laughing like a fool again...

Until you can show me it on the form you are wrong & laughing when you are wrong makes you look.. well figure it ot for yourself...


yes latter on after your statement you tried to reword it to save face but you failed :shrug:
I was factually right and you trying to back pedal now doesnt change anything lol

I even quoted you for proof, wheres your proof you say you ment on the form? lol thats right you have done because thats not what you said, you were crying about "options" and you were 100% wrong

the form is MEANINGLESS to your statement as YOU wrote it :) whether its on the form or not you still have the OPTION, PERIOD :D
Because an option that was there before, that some people liked, will no longer be there?

nice try but you fail, please stop because you are only getting more egg on your face,
LMAO

all you had to do is man up and say you mispoke you meant ON THE FORM, which you didnt say :shrug:
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

And I, one of the evil gays don't even like what they did. They should have made Bride 1, Groom 1, and Bride 2, Groom 2, and allow the people to circle the appropriate one. Simple as that.

Which would have triggered the exact same outrage. Generic terms like "spouse" are easier to understand.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Off topic, but...

Doesn't that quote scarily remind you of certain conservatives. They where after communists, then they went after socialists, and trade unions are in their sites right now bigtime...

Eh, the meaning of that poem is more about understanding that when one groups rights, and liberties are taken away that it puts all of our rights in danger. All I'm saying is that people who want to discriminate against others for being different better watch out before someone else deems them different.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Eh, the meaning of that poem is more about understanding that when one groups rights, and liberties are taken away that it puts all of our rights in danger. All I'm saying is that people who want to discriminate against others for being different better watch out before someone else deems them different.

Yes, I do understand why you posted it and what it means. It just was one of those moments where something clicked for me and so I posted it.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Which would have triggered the exact same outrage. Generic terms like "spouse" are easier to understand.

All I know is that I'm going to be a wife, and have a wife, and that I'm not insecure enough to need a government form tell me that for me.
 
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