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State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

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The words “bride” and “groom” – along with “husband” and “wife” are about to become archaic language in Washington state as officials prepare to remove the terms from marriage and divorce certificates.
Tim Church, a spokesman for the Wash. state Health Department, told Fox News they will likely be removing those words in favor of more gender neutral terms.
He said the changes are necessary in response to the same-sex marriage law that takes effect Dec. 6.
“We’ve been quickly moving ahead to change our marriage certificate to make sure it fits for everyone who is going to be using it,” he told Fox News.
The words “bride” and “groom” could be replaced with “Spouse A” and “Spouse B” or “Person A” and “Person B,” Church said.
I wonder if the spokesman for the health department with be changing his name.
 
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I have to admit that things like this sadden me. Its not that I object to "progress", its just that there is no need for something like this.

The "old" terms could still have been accomodated, this sort of thing is just inflamatory really.
 
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I wonder if the spokesman for the health department with be changing his name.

Why would he change his name? You realize there is a difference between a descriptive term and a name, right?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

I have to admit that things like this sadden me. Its not that I object to "progress", its just that there is no need for something like this.

The "old" terms could still have been accomodated, this sort of thing is just inflamatory really.

How could the old terms be accommodated? There is no clear equivalent to husband, wife, bride or groom in most gay couples.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

This is the kind of stuff that predicated the fall of the Roman empire. Watch for the legalization of having sex with children next.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

How could the old terms be accommodated? There is no clear equivalent to husband, wife, bride or groom in most gay couples.

I'm about to go off on the gays if this doesn't stop. The gays can call each other whatever in the heck they want. I'll even provide the white out for their certificate. However, they're in for a fight if they expect me and other normal couples to drop the use of husband and wife.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

This is the kind of stuff that predicated the fall of the Roman empire. Watch for the legalization of having sex with children next.

Well. :/

I'm about to go off on the gays if this doesn't stop. The gays can call each other whatever in the heck they want. I'll even provide the white out for their certificate. However, they're in for a fight if they expect me and other normal couples to drop the use of husband and wife.

Too late. You are person A. and person B. Deal with it.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

How could the old terms be accommodated? There is no clear equivalent to husband, wife, bride or groom in most gay couples.

Why does there have to be "equivelants"?

Whats wrong with alternatives instead?

If the cap doesnt fit do you need to destroy the cap, or can you wear a different hat while the person the cap fits wears the cap?

Things like this are inflamatory, as they take from others where there is no need.
 
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I wonder if the spokesman for the health department with be changing his name.

Why can't gay people just be both brides or both grooms?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

This is the kind of stuff that predicated the fall of the Roman empire. Watch for the legalization of having sex with children next.

Run for the hills! Arm yourselves! Tinfoil for all! WOLVERINES!!!!!
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

I'm about to go off on the gays if this doesn't stop. The gays can call each other whatever in the heck they want. I'll even provide the white out for their certificate. However, they're in for a fight if they expect me and other normal couples to drop the use of husband and wife.

They are not asking you to change what you call yourself.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Why does there have to be "equivelants"?

Whats wrong with alternatives instead?

If the cap doesnt fit do you need to destroy the cap, or can you wear a different hat while the person the cap fits wears the cap?

Things like this are inflamatory, as they take from others where there is no need.

They are only inflammatory if you chose to be inflamed. No one is responsible for your emotional reactions but you. By the way, the generic "spouse" is perfectly descriptive and fits all situations...
 
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This is silly, they could simply make them on a by need basis for "groom-groom," "groom bride," or "bride bride."

But its not a big deal either way.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Run for the hills! Arm yourselves! Tinfoil for all! WOLVERINES!!!!!

It starts like this:

"The union between two individuals – heterosexual or homosexual – was considered a pleasurable fact and posed no moral problem for the upper-class Roman elite"

And it progresses to this:

"As Paul Veyne relates, "…it was proverbially held that sex with boys procures a tranquil pleasure unruffling the soul." Examples abound in almost overwhelming abundance. Ovid relates the story of Ganymede as boy lover to Jove, as well as his description of Orpheus who turns to boys as a tranquil consolation after having lost his wife"

Sexuality in the Roman Empire
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

They are not asking you to change what you call yourself.

Expecting every darn thing to become gender neutral is going overboard.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

It starts like this:

"The union between two individuals – heterosexual or homosexual – was considered a pleasurable fact and posed no moral problem for the upper-class Roman elite"

And it progresses to this:

"As Paul Veyne relates, "…it was proverbially held that sex with boys procures a tranquil pleasure unruffling the soul." Examples abound in almost overwhelming abundance. Ovid relates the story of Ganymede as boy lover to Jove, as well as his description of Orpheus who turns to boys as a tranquil consolation after having lost his wife"

Sexuality in the Roman Empire

So how does this lead to Washington being sacked by the Visigoths?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Expecting every darn thing to become gender neutral is going overboard.

Again, they are not. Firstly, it is the government that is doing this, not teh gays. Secondly, official documents that have inaccurate terms for the needs would be a problem.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

They are only inflammatory if you chose to be inflamed. No one is responsible for your emotional reactions but you.

Ive heard that argument before, mainly from the "other side", regarding some words that are now considered highly offensive.

Im glad the world rejected that position.
 
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So how does this lead to Washington being sacked by the Visigoths?

The decay of a society leads to the eventual sacking of the country. China may well be our version of the Visigoths.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

I'm about to go off on the gays if this doesn't stop. The gays can call each other whatever in the heck they want. I'll even provide the white out for their certificate. However, they're in for a fight if they expect me and other normal couples to drop the use of husband and wife.

That is really silly on your part. Seems more like sour grapes to me. But have all the meltdowns you want. It isn't like the last few weeks since the election have not been amusing with all the cons going into fits over obama.
 
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The decay of a society leads to the eventual sacking of the country. China may well be our version of the Visigoths.

Ok so how is gay marriage giving China an economic edge?
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

The decay of a society leads to the eventual sacking of the country. China may well be our version of the Visigoths.

Yeah, because this is how china started off down the road to being communist. i remember readiong about how they made their terms for married couples gender neutral and how that was totally an idea of marx. You guys are really losing it.
 
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Again, they are not. Firstly, it is the government that is doing this, not teh gays. Secondly, official documents that have inaccurate terms for the needs would be a problem.

Who really cares what the government tells us to call ourselves? I don't.

Some people just bitch for the sake of bitching.

'Sticks and stones will break my bones - names will never hurt me.'

Time to grow up, children, and move on to something that is actually important.
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Ok so how is gay marriage giving China an economic edge?

Strong Koolaid has amazing effects.......
 
re: State to Eliminate “Bride” & “Groom” on Marriage Certificates [W:303]

Expecting every darn thing to become gender neutral is going overboard.

What exactly are you so frightened of? i mean aside from gays being happy which truly seems to annoy you.
 
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