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Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

Henrin said:
And I hope many kids do this and get caught. Then perhaps people will get the point that tracking people like this is a violation of their rights.
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or learn that its not a violation and have 10 people expelled or that they can simply pick a different school :shrug:
 
Henrin said:
Sometimes the right and best course of action is not following the rules.
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but teachers keeping tabs on students isn't exactly a novel idea
 
Henrin said:
Though I said something similar about GPS chips not that long ago and people decided to instead fall in love with them. :doh
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I'm not the greatest fan of the RFID tracker in this instance, but for myself, GPS has been a remarkable advancement in navigation technology, allowing me to figure out where I need to go on a daily basis. We also use it to track my brother (who has PDD NOS), unknowingly.
 
Objective-J said:
or learn that its not a violation and have 10 people expelled or that they can simply pick a different school :shrug:
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I'm all for mobilizing kids to ignore this rule. I will even assist them in microwaving the little bastards. :cool:

And yes, its a violation. I'm not going to go over this again and again with you.
 
Henrin said:
1.)I'm all for mobilizing kids to ignore this rule. I will even assist them in microwaving the little bastards. :cool:

2.)And yes, its a violation. I'm not going to go over this again and again with you.
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1.) thats fine by me but you could find yourself facing criminal charges
2.) only based on your OPINION and ZERO FACTS :shrug:
 
One area where Constitutional rights are really being put to the test is in public schools. "Safety" measures that usurp freedoms which would never be tolerated in the adult population are often deemed okay when applied to minors. This is not acceptable. Everyone should have the same rights on or off school property.

RFID tags are not necessary to get an education. Get them out of our schools. If they want to protect the school they can hire security guards. Other than that, it's big brother authoritarian control. Schools are not prison, and honestly, who hasn't skipped class or done something silly during their school years? It's part of growing up. Are we going to start punishing kids using GPS now? lol...

This is not the kind of care that children need and it continues to move in the opposite direction away from nurturing and love. Stop treating children like inmates. They are complete human beings just like adults.
 
Fiddytree said:
I'm not the greatest fan of the RFID tracker in this instance, but for myself, GPS has been a remarkable advancement in navigation technology, allowing me to figure out where I need to go on a daily basis. We also use it to track my brother (who has PDD NOS), unknowingly.
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Call me paranoid if you want but I don't like the idea of fellow citizens or the government tracking me.
 
Objective-J said:
1.) thats fine by me but you could find yourself facing criminal charges
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I could, but I'm fine with that.

2.) only based on your OPINION and ZERO FACTS :shrug:
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Facts were presented many pages ago in this thread. :)
 
Henrin said:
Call me paranoid if you want but I don't like the idea of fellow citizens or the government tracking me.
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I could, but it's not always a benefit. If you consider the Google Glasses concept video, then your point is fairly received. Otherwise, I am thankful I live in an age when my disability can be aided by technology which guides me step by step from one place to another. With regard to my brother, it's also useful to know where he is in these harsh climates, as he has been known to walk considerable distances (from one town to another) without the proper winter or summer attire on, if he feels his transportation is not quickly at his side. -20 or -30 degrees, inappropriate winter clothing, and a rash feeling of needing to walk to the next town overrides any privacy concerns.
 
Henrin said:
1.)I could, but I'm fine with that.



Facts were presented many pages ago in this thread. :)
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1.) im fine with that too
2.) nope only opinion :shrug:

if you disagree by all means PLEASE post these FACTS again lol
 
Henrin said:
I'm all for mobilizing kids to ignore this rule. I will even assist them in microwaving the little bastards. :cool:

And yes, its a violation. I'm not going to go over this again and again with you.
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it seems the court disagrees with you
 
Northern Light said:
One area where Constitutional rights are really being put to the test is in public schools. "Safety" measures that usurp freedoms which would never be tolerated in the adult population are often deemed okay when applied to minors. This is not acceptable. Everyone should have the same rights on or off school property.
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Minors do not have the same rights nor the same responsibilities as do adults. Minors are supposed to be supervised by adults, whether they are at school or not. When they are at school, it is the responsibility of the school personnel to know where they are. When they are not at school, it becomes the parents' responsibility.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Minors do not have the same rights nor the same responsibilities as do adults. Minors are supposed to be supervised by adults, whether they are at school or not. When they are at school, it is the responsibility of the school personnel to know where they are. When they are not at school, it becomes the parents' responsibility.
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I agree but RFID tags are not required to do this. The suspended student in the OP is in high school, not exactly a helpless individual. Treating adolescents like they are capable is how you make intelligent adults. Don't kid yourself, RFID is a way to remove a young person's autonomy.

And as is being argued in the OP article, there is a profit motive on the school's part to use this technology, so it's not even about safety so much as it's about greed.
 
You are a private citizen.

I wish to know your whereabouts at all times.

Do you have any objections? Why, or why not?
 
Northern Light said:
I agree but RFID tags are not required to do this. The suspended student in the OP is in high school, not exactly a helpless individual. Treating adolescents like they are capable is how you make intelligent adults. Don't kid yourself, RFID is a way to remove a young person's autonomy.

And as is being argued in the OP article, there is a profit motive on the school's part to use this technology, so it's not even about safety so much as it's about greed.
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they aren't required, just another new tool. Are surveillance cameras a violation of rights, too?
 
Fisher said:
Aren't these the same kids your side of the aisle want to protect by taking the gun rights away from responsible adults?
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My side of the aisle? Maybe you should speak to me like an individual and not make stupid stereotypes. Nobody is discussing gun rights here, but there is a whole forum for that you can visit.
 
justabubba said:
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and they can drop out of this school if they refuse to abide by its rules
isn't following the rules acting responsibly
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Not if the rules are invasive and insulting (and have now been ruled illegal). I'm certainly not going to teach my children that blindly following the rules is a good thing.
 
Would YOU carry one (RFID) if they were handed out every time you walked into a store?

Willingly and gladly? It's a private enterprise, and it would cut down on theft. Can't be anything but a "win/win".

This question is directed primarily at those who believe it is a good idea for the students and/or is the right of the school. A non-answer will be interpreted as a hypocritical 'no'. An articulate 'yes' or 'no', with corresponding legitimate comment, will be accorded the proper respect it has earned and deserves.
 
kerussll said:
Not if the rules are invasive and insulting (and have now been ruled illegal). I'm certainly not going to teach my children that blindly following the rules is a good thing.
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actually, the court found for the school
the school's requirement was not found to be onerous
 
radcen said:
Would YOU carry one (RFID) if they were handed out every time you walked into a store?

Willingly and gladly? It's a private enterprise, and it would cut down on theft. Can't be anything but a "win/win".

This question is directed primarily at those who believe it is a good idea for the students and/or is the right of the school. A non-answer will be interpreted as a hypocritical 'no'. An articulate 'yes' or 'no', with corresponding legitimate comment, will be accorded the proper respect it has earned and deserves.
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are dependents similar to adults?
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
but teachers keeping tabs on students isn't exactly a novel idea
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If teachers wish to keep tabs on students they can do it just like everyone else keeps tabs on kids. There is no reason to add in a tracking device to do the job.
 
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