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Student Suspended for Refusing to Wear a School-Issued RFID Tracker

RabidAlpaca said:
No idea, but there was certainly one in the early 2000's when I was in high school. And apparently there's an actual law and everything: Stand or be suspended.

My jaw hit the floor when they actually suspended me. *shrugs* Wasn't the first time I'd been suspended, but definitely for the dumbest reason.
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I never heard of that either, but in the early 2000's I was skipping school to smoke pot and drink cheap liquor.
 
Tigger said:
I see no reason why this would be a violation of her "rights" on any level. Where I work I am required to carry a photo ID visibly on me at all times. I'm sure the next ones they issue will likely have RFID technology in them. This ID is required to be visible at all times. To get from the street to my desk I must use this badge THREE times to access the parking lot, the building, and then the area where my desk is. If I go to the cafeteria for food I have to use it to get back into my work area.

I see nothing wrong with this sort of security precaution.
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Your workplace choice is a voluntary decision - school attendance is not. Big difference.
 
I find the whole discussion kind of ridiculous. Any child or pet of mine would be microchipped. In fact both of my pets to date have been microchipped.
 
SMTA said:
Your workplace choice is a voluntary decision - school attendance is not. Big difference.
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What school you attend can be a choice. At least in many places.

Besides, this is a safety and security issue, which is something I would think most parents approve of.
 
Surtr said:
Only if you're on campus.
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..and if I leave the school they know about it when they are not even around. Your example however they would not have this information.
 
Tigger said:
I find the whole discussion kind of ridiculous. Any child or pet of mine would be microchipped. In fact both of my pets to date have been microchipped.
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You would put a chip in your own child? So putting foreign objects in your child is no big thing for you?
 
Henrin said:
You would put a chip in your own child? So putting foreign objects in your child is no big thing for you?
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Yes I would. My child's safety and security is a foremost concern in my mind.
 
Henrin said:
..and if I leave the school they know about it when they are not even around. Your example however they would not have this information.
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Yes, that's called truancy. Something the school kinda needs to know about. Or maybe your kid dips out to experiment with drugs and alcohol, or your bitch ex snaps and decides to take her baby with her. Or maybe the little **** decides to go pop trunk, grab daddy's rifle and have himself a columbine moment. RFID chips are about maintaining accountability. Kids need to be accounted for, and they sure as hell can't be trusted to be left to their own devices.
 
Tigger said:
Yes I would. My child's safety and security is a foremost concern in my mind.
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So body sovereignty is below these matters? If you don't respect the body sovereignty of your children then do not respect your children.
 
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Surtr said:
Yes, that's called truancy.
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And??

Something the school kinda needs to know about. Or maybe your kid dips out to experiment with drugs and alcohol, or your bitch ex snaps and decides to take her baby with her. Or maybe the little **** decides to go pop trunk, grab daddy's rifle and have himself a columbine moment. RFID chips are about maintaining accountability. Kids need to be accounted for, and they sure as hell can't be trusted to be left to their own devices.
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If they want to maintain their law they can do so with people on the ground, not with technology that shows the whereabouts of people at all times.
 
Henrin said:
If they want to maintain their law they can do so with people on the ground, not with technology that shows the whereabouts of people at all times.
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Like cameras that are all over the school now and not being challenged? The only difference here is that the chips are not only more individual and more efficient, they are less invasive than the actual cameras, since they don't actually show the image of the child or what they are doing, only where they are, or at least where their ID is, which should be on them at all times.
 
Henrin said:
And??
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And truancy means that kid is wasting taxpayer money by ****ing off.

If they want to maintain their law they can do so with people on the ground, not with technology that shows the whereabouts of people at all times.
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There's an idea, have all the overburdened teachers and staff who are busy actually doing their jobs the best they can with what little they have, and a couple fat security guards on golf carts keep accountability of 1,000+ kids. Awesome idea, why didn't they ever think about that before?
 
Surtr said:
And truancy means that kid is wasting taxpayer money by ****ing off.
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Since he or she had no choice to be there in the first place I don't think I care much. Perhaps I'm the only one that realizes the order of things.

There's an idea, have all the overburdened teachers and staff who are busy actually doing their jobs the best they can with what little they have, and a couple fat security guards on golf carts keep accountability of 1,000+ kids. Awesome idea, why didn't they ever think about that before?
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They did. Your point?
 
roguenuke said:
Like cameras that are all over the school now and not being challenged? The only difference here is that the chips are not only more individual and more efficient, they are less invasive than the actual cameras, since they don't actually show the image of the child or what they are doing, only where they are, or at least where their ID is, which should be on them at all times.
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I don't recall saying I approve of cameras.
 
Surtr said:
And that's the problem.
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That I don't care for their ridiculous law that fines people for breaking it? Yes, declare it so then.

It doesn't work, so they came up with RFID as a solution.
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I thought they came up with cameras and when that failed they came up with RFID. Interesting..
 
Henrin said:
So body sovereignty is below these matters? If you don't respect the body sovereignty of your children then do not respect your children.
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Yes it is. If they choose to take it out when they become adults, that's fine. Until then they are my responsibility and property.
 
Henrin said:
That I don't care for their ridiculous law that fines people for breaking it? Yes, declare it so then.
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No, that people just don't care in general. Their privacy means absolutely jack **** when they're at school. They have a job to do just like every other regular jack off in this country, and that's to receive an education so they don't wind up as worthless bums.


I thought they came up with cameras and when that failed they came up with RFID. Interesting..
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Well, we could have electric fences and armed guards, but that didn't go over too well.
 
Henrin said:
I don't recall saying I approve of cameras.
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You may not approve of them, but they are in place in schools and it is not likely that they will ever be ruled as unconstitutional.
 
Tigger said:
Yes it is. If they choose to take it out when they become adults, that's fine. Until then they are my responsibility and property.
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Children are not property. The fact of the matter is you have really no excuse to do anything with their body unless its a matter of their health(shots, surgeries, etc) or their everyday maintenance(hair, nails, baths, etc.) Removing body parts that are healthy, or putting in foreign objects outside of health issues are not included.

Your job as a parent is to keep your children free from harm while maintaining their rights as individuals. Sadly, due their position parents are given the job to maintain their health which calls for certain restrictions on their body sovereignty, but this only permits acts of necessity or maintenance.
 
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Surtr said:
No, that people just don't care in general. Their privacy means absolutely jack **** when they're at school. They have a job to do just like every other regular jack off in this country, and that's to receive an education so they don't wind up as worthless bums.
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Ah..so their privacy means nothing because they have a job to do. What an odd concept really.


Well, we could have electric fences and armed guards, but that didn't go over too well.
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Yes, because schools are not prisons.
 
Goshin said:
While I don't see this as having eschatological religious implications per se, nontheless I oppose this RFID tracking business... it is just too intrusive, even for High School.


If I were prone to conspiracy theory, I might say something like "get 'em used to it in school for a generation or two, then they won't kick up as much fuss when you make it mandatory for adults too."
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I don't think it is a conspiracy theory. There is no reason for them to make children wear RFID tags.If they were that concerned about kids skipping school then they can post security guards at the entrances and exits to the building. As far as I know teachers still take attendance at the start of every class and the school will notify parents when their kids have missed classes. As for being able to tell which kids belong to the school or not then they can institute a uniform policy. My nephew's middle school he went to mandated brown khaki pants or shorts, and either a black,dark blue or light blue polo shirt depending on the grade the child was in and those polo shirt colors would change every year.
 
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