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How Team Obama Justifies the Killing of a 16-Year-Old American Citizen

hawke812 said:
Well, they need to explain themselves for their actions to determine if they were abusing their powers at the very least. Not just this incident, but all actions. Right now they have free reign to kill anyone they themselves accuse of being a terrorist with no oversight.
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You're being ridiculous. You believe Obama could label Romney a terrorist and kill him with an air strike and there would be no repurcussions?

hawke812 said:
I apologize for wanting to keep the government in check. How Un-American of me. I should be labeled a terrorist now:roll:
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The fact that you're making this comment with such flippancy proves that this fear you are shrieking about that the government is going around labeling whoever they want as a terrorist and murdering them with impunity is completely unfounded.
 
the_recruit said:
You're being ridiculous. You believe Obama could label Romney a terrorist and kill him with an air strike and there would be no repurcussions?



The fact that you're making this comment with such flippancy proves that this fear you are shrieking about that the government is going around labeling whoever they want as a terrorist and murdering them with impunity is completely unfounded.
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1. I said that:lol:

2.Wanting oversight on the government is "fear" now:lol:

Please, continue:lol:
 
hawke812 said:
1. I said that:lol:
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Yes. You did. You said you believe the government could "kill anyone" they want with no oversight. Sounds ridiculous when it gets played back to you, doesn't it? :lol:

hawke812 said:
2.Wanting oversight on the government is "fear" now:lol:
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Nope. Fear that the government is going around labeling citizens as terrorists and killing them willy nilly is. :lol:

hawke812 said:
Please, continue
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Gladly. :lol:
 
the_recruit said:
What law did the government break?
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The US Constitution, Amendment V and Amendment VIII. The document does not give the government the power to execute citizens or persons without due process.

The Fifth specifies the due process requirement.
 
the_recruit said:
You're being ridiculous. You believe Obama could label Romney a terrorist and kill him with an air strike and there would be no repurcussions?



The fact that you're making this comment with such flippancy proves that this fear you are shrieking about that the government is going around labeling whoever they want as a terrorist and murdering them with impunity is completely unfounded.
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In the previous post, I forgot to mention Amendment VI.

Your post here suggests that you are not quite aware of several things. The use of the word "person" in various parts of the Constitution, including those parts relevant to this discussion.

You also seem to suggest that you deny that the government is killing persons, including US citizens, without any sort of due process. In case you don't know it, the US government employs armed drones in different parts of the globe, and with those drones it kills all manner of innocent people.
 
I see you like to cherry pick certain information and take my posts out of context to better serve your agenda:lol:

the_recruit said:
Yes. You did. You said you believe the government could "kill anyone" they want with no oversight. Sounds ridiculous when it gets played back to you, doesn't it?
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Of course it sounds ridiculous when you give an extreme example and take it out of context. Anything would:lol:

the_recruit said:
Nope. Fear that the government is going around labeling citizens as terrorists and killing them willy nilly is.
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Yes, the government has free reign to label anyone as a terrorist and kill them with no oversight right now. Even US citizens. Are you going to deny that?
 
hawke812 said:
Yes, the government has free reign to label anyone as a terrorist and kill them with no oversight right now. Even US citizens. Are you going to deny that?
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but obama said we'd get change. isnt this what you were expecting?
 
Henry David said:
The US Constitution, Amendment V and Amendment VIII. The document does not give the government the power to execute citizens or persons without due process.

The Fifth specifies the due process requirement.
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You must have been truly horrified by the Civil War, eh?
 
Diogenes said:
You must have been truly horrified by the Civil War, eh?
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i can remember it like it was yesterday. yanks everywhere. we held them for days at the battle of bsrun, but eventually we were overcome and forced back into the union.
 
Wiggen said:
The government deprives people of their lives without due process of law all of the time. It's called war. Or a police shootout. Or any one of a number of other things that occur that cost low lifes their existance without a judge pronouncing a death sentence.

You want to sympathize with terrorists and their hangers-on, be my guest.
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Well, hell -- let's just dispense with courts altogether and gun everyone down. What, you want to sympathize with criminals and their helpers? Be my guest.

This is just stupidity on stilts. What's it liked to be thoroughly owned by Obama?
 
I wouldn't know. On the other hand, you would know what it was like to be so consumed by hatred for the President as to be incapable of rational thought. You even like terrorists better than him.
 
Wiggen said:
I wouldn't know. On the other hand, you would know what it was like to be so consumed by hatred for the President as to be incapable of rational thought. You even like terrorists better than him.
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Yeah, 'coz it's irrational be concerned that the President has a "kill list."
 
roflpublican said:
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but obama said we'd get change. isnt this what you were expecting?
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I don't care what Obama said. Stop dodging the question. Are you denying the government has free reign to label anyone as a terrorist and kill them with no oversight right now? I am waiting.
 
hawke812 said:
I don't care what Obama said. Stop dodging the question. Are you denying the government has free reign to label anyone as a terrorist and kill them with no oversight right now? I am waiting.
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no, obviously the government does, as they've been doing it and no one has tried to stop them durrr.
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Henry David said:
I wasn't there.
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Obviously, and you probably haven't read about it either. It was a difference over policy and politics that got very bloody, and hundreds of thousands of American citizens were killed with government blessing and without due process.
 
Diogenes said:
Obviously, and you probably haven't read about it either. It was a difference over policy and politics that got very bloody, and hundreds of thousands of American citizens were killed with government blessing and without due process.
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It was a war. War is hell.
 
So is this. They began it on 9/11 and we're continuing it. Here's some advice for Americans. If you don't want to be blown to bits by a Predator, A) don't go to countries that serve as terrorist havens, and B) don't hang out with terrorists. It's really rather simple.
 
Harshaw said:
Yeah, 'coz it's irrational be concerned that the President has a "kill list."
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Could you link us to this 'kill list' and tell us which americans are on it? You seem to have inside information so we'd all like to be as well informed as you are.
 
That's it? We have a list of Al Qaeda terrorists and some of them are Americans - and we intend to kill them? Wow. Color me shocked that we actually want to eliminate these bastards before they decide to hijack an airplane and fly it into a high rise building. Dear me!

I did like the part about 'eviscerating' Al Qaeda, however.
 
Wiggen said:
That's it? We have a list of Al Qaeda terrorists and some of them are Americans - and we intend to kill them? Wow. Color me shocked that we actually want to eliminate these bastards before they decide to hijack an airplane and fly it into a high rise building. Dear me!

I did like the part about 'eviscerating' Al Qaeda, however.
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Yeah. It's perfectly fine to kill at will and **** all who happen to be standing nearby, but pouring water over them? Hmmmm.

Wiggen said:
This just in - waterboarding is torture. Ask anybody who's undergone it. Anybody who endorses torture as policy and criticizes the President for not supporting it is clueless.
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Harshaw said:
Yeah. It's perfectly fine to kill at will and **** all who happen to be standing nearby, but pouring water over them? Hmmmm.
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I was under the impression that reading was required on this thread. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Top Cat said:
I was under the impression that reading was required on this thread. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Apparently it isn't, if you think this is any kind of response to me.
 
Harshaw said:
Apparently it isn't, if you think this is any kind of response to me.
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My bad. You're right. Obviously you did read Wiggen's post. I get it now. Lack of comprehension is actually the issue. Duly noted. Thank you.
 
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